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 le_gin_ranger
 |  | seeking Urban Explorers for a documentary
< on 1/30/2003 2:39 AM >
|  | | | My name is Gin Harbold. I am a student producer, and I am searching for any Urban Explorers who may be interested in doing an on camera interview for ny documentary on Urban Exploration. I would be happy to interview anyone of any age, background, involvement, and location (provided the travel distance is not extremely unreasonable). My location is Washington State, but I am willing to travel nearly anywhere in the U.S. If you are interested. I would appreciate an email at [email protected] Please, write documentary interview as the subject. I will then contact you concerning the details.
Thank You
Gin Harbold
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Unknown2
| | Re: seeking Urban Explorers for a documentary
<Reply # 1 on 1/30/2003 2:56 AM >
| | | | hmm...no
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Shokan
Location: Brantford, Ontario, Canada
Gender: Male
From Brantford? Msg me ICQ - 87253370
| |  | Re: seeking Urban Explorers for a documentary
<Reply # 2 on 1/30/2003 3:07 AM >
| | | | The majority of us are against this idea. But I'm sure you can find one or two people who would be willing to do it for personal glory. And no, I'm not mentioning any names.
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Jester
 
Location: Vancouver,B.C. Canada
Gender: Male
Always just out of sight...
| |  | Re: seeking Urban Explorers for a documentary
<Reply # 3 on 1/30/2003 7:19 AM >
| | | | LMAO...
It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf. |
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Ninjalicious
 
Gone, but always with us
Location: Toronto
| | | Re: seeking Urban Explorers for a documentary
<Reply # 4 on 1/30/2003 5:21 PM >
| | | | Shokan, you are a funny guy.
Ninj
http://www.infiltration.org
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Shokan
Location: Brantford, Ontario, Canada
Gender: Male
From Brantford? Msg me ICQ - 87253370
| | | Re: seeking Urban Explorers for a documentary
<Reply # 5 on 1/30/2003 5:53 PM >
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le_gin_ranger
| | Re: seeking Urban Explorers for a documentary
<Reply # 6 on 1/30/2003 7:35 PM >
| | | | I know about the problems that go along for UI, as far as media coverage, but I am only intending to show this to my fellow film students and professors. That can be gauranteed through signed agreements for anyone who is worried about that. Honestly, my interest in UI or UE, whatever you want to call it, is mostly a personal thing. I don't want to do the documentary for the world to see. I guess you could say its just a subject that fascinates me, and I want to take my interest in it a step further than reading about and emailing those involved. I just happen to be a film student, so my interest moves me toward a film project.
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Shokan
Location: Brantford, Ontario, Canada
Gender: Male
From Brantford? Msg me ICQ - 87253370
| | | Re: seeking Urban Explorers for a documentary
<Reply # 7 on 1/30/2003 7:59 PM >
| | | | Why don't you try UE?
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Jester
Location: Vancouver,B.C. Canada
Gender: Male
Always just out of sight...
| | | Re: seeking Urban Explorers for a documentary
<Reply # 8 on 1/30/2003 10:42 PM >
| | | | I've run into lost of people with "interest" in UE that wouldn't actually particpate in it themselves...
It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf. |
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Shokan
Location: Brantford, Ontario, Canada
Gender: Male
From Brantford? Msg me ICQ - 87253370
| | | Re: seeking Urban Explorers for a documentary
<Reply # 9 on 1/30/2003 11:00 PM >
| | | | Then they aren't very interested.
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Shokan
Location: Brantford, Ontario, Canada
Gender: Male
From Brantford? Msg me ICQ - 87253370
| | | Re: seeking Urban Explorers for a documentary
<Reply # 10 on 1/30/2003 11:11 PM >
| | | | On a side note, Gin Harbold is one of the coolest. names. ever.
Gin. Short for Virginia?
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Jester
Location: Vancouver,B.C. Canada
Gender: Male
Always just out of sight...
| | | Re: seeking Urban Explorers for a documentary
<Reply # 11 on 1/30/2003 11:33 PM >
| | | | Shokan, thats really a rash generalization. People can quite easily be interested or very interested in something and not do it themselves. The world is full of armchair athletes of every variety. They are still interested, just because they may not be capable or may not have the guts to do it, does not mean they aren't interested...
It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf. |
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uem-Wotan
Noble Donor
Location: Montreal
Gender: Male
| | | Re: seeking Urban Explorers for a documentary
<Reply # 12 on 1/31/2003 12:07 AM >
| | | | I think what Shokan means is that unless you actually experience UE yourself, then your interest is still very weak. It's the interest of a detached observer. But the whole point of urban exploration is to STOP being a casual observer on the sidelines, to start pushing back the boundaries of your everyday life.
*Cue violins*
Hehe.
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Asbestos, schmestos! |
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Jester
Location: Vancouver,B.C. Canada
Gender: Male
Always just out of sight...
| | | Re: seeking Urban Explorers for a documentary
<Reply # 13 on 1/31/2003 12:14 AM >
| | | | and I disagree. Plenty of people can have much more than a "weak interest" in something, yet still not try. How about the popularity of car racing in the states especially ? Very popular amongst many people, and you can go and learn to race at schools and clinics offered. Yet out of millions of fans with very high interest, ( and a great number with the money to do it ) very few actually do. Some people will just not get into doing things they find fascinating. They will watch it and read about it avidly, yet never try.
It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf. |
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Shokan
Location: Brantford, Ontario, Canada
Gender: Male
From Brantford? Msg me ICQ - 87253370
| | | Re: seeking Urban Explorers for a documentary
<Reply # 14 on 1/31/2003 12:20 AM >
| | | | Posted by Jester
How about the popularity of car racing in the states especially ? Very popular amongst many people, and you can go and learn to race at schools and clinics offered. Yet out of millions of fans with very high interest, ( and a great number with the money to do it ) very few actually do. |
To use your example of car racing. Something like that costs LOTS of money and time, agreed. You say a great number of people have the money to do this? Where's your source on that? Do you have a URL?
And yeah, what Wotan said is pretty much what I meant. You can read about it all you want, your interest is still weak. Having a 'UE adventure' so to speak, is alot different than something like car racing. The whole ideal of UE is go explore something yourself. To find something out that otherwise you wouldn't know about.
UE is not a spectator sport.
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Jester
Location: Vancouver,B.C. Canada
Gender: Male
Always just out of sight...
| | | Re: seeking Urban Explorers for a documentary
<Reply # 15 on 1/31/2003 12:37 AM >
| | | | Posted by Shokan
UE is not a spectator sport.
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well, I beg to differ but I get lots of email from people that enjoy reading about UE but would never try it. And many specifically state that fact. Saying that if someone does not participate in something directly, that they have no interest is completely false. All of thses websites have people view them with interest that do not explore.
Just using the law of averages, with a fanbase in the millions, there will be fans from all walks of life and social/economic classes. as far as the costs, using race cars as an example still, to be a passenger in a race car will cost you $75 , to get some instruction and then take the car out with you as the driver $337 .
http://www.driving101.com/courses.htm
Tickets to watch the freakin races are close to the price of getting a ride in the car yourself. Thses events attract over 15 million spectators per year across the USA.
http://www.racegoodyear.com/96attend.html
Ticket prices are $35 for the garbage seats, and $140 for the tops. 15 million people paying for these seats a year, they can afford to go in a car if they choose, and as I said, not many do, but they are still interested...
http://www.geocities.com/johnsonindy500/speedway/tickets.html
and no, I am not comparing UE and car racing, just using it as a demonstration of interest being there without participation necessarily...
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It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf. |
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uem-Wotan
Noble Donor
Location: Montreal
Gender: Male
| | | Re: seeking Urban Explorers for a documentary
<Reply # 16 on 1/31/2003 12:51 AM >
| | | | Posted by Jester
Saying that if someone does not participate in something directly, that they have no interest is completely false.
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I never said fans had no interest. I said their interest was weak, that of a detached observer. I sometimes dream about infiltrating buildings (hehehe).
I don't believe you have to be an urban explorer to be interested in the hobby, it's not a case of "you're with us or against us," but unless you've tasted it you don't know what you're missing.
Asbestos, schmestos! |
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Shokan
Location: Brantford, Ontario, Canada
Gender: Male
From Brantford? Msg me ICQ - 87253370
| | | Re: seeking Urban Explorers for a documentary
<Reply # 17 on 1/31/2003 12:56 AM >
| | | | | Saying that if someone does not participate in something directly, that they have no interest is completely false. |
I did not say they have no interest. I merely said it was a weak one. Read what I say before you type. 
| as far as the costs, using race cars as an example still, to be a passenger in a race car will cost you $75 , to get some instruction and then take the car out with you as the driver $337 . |
Being a passenger is a race car, as well as being the driver in a race car one or two times, is hardly someone that I would call a "race car driver". I'm talking about actually buying the car, maintaining it, getting sponsers, etc. It is a very easy comparision between UE and racing in this respect.
Sitting at home, reading about UE. Going out and exploring. There. You've done it, you're an urban explorer. Simple right? Not much to it.
Sitting at home, reading about race car driving. Go out, learn to drive a race car, buy the car, maintain the parts, get sponsers, hire mechanics, travel to places round the world to race, etc. You see what Im getting at? Race car driving takes a hella lot more work than UE. In retrospect, maybe its a bad comparison.
All I'm saying is that something as simple as UE, its better off to just to go do it yourself and see what its all about then to read about it. You can experience car racing using the methods you described, but you cant experience UE without doing it the way we all do. By taking it into your hands and doing it.
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uem-Tux
Iron Wok Jan
Location: Montreal
Gender: Male
UE Geek
| | | | Re: seeking Urban Explorers for a documentary
<Reply # 18 on 1/31/2003 1:27 AM >
| | | | I think being an armchair UE-er is perfectly valid. That's who we're posting the pictures for, right?
Personally, I was an armchair UE-er for like a year and a half or something before I started doing it. I'd print out Ninj's articles and read them in bed. I'd talk to my friends about it. I was crazy. Then I heard of a big'ol'building that was easy to get into, and I went. The first time, even though it was daytime, the building was super easy to get into, and not even dangerous, I was freaked out beyond belief. I had to harden myself to it by exploring more.
It's true that being a spectator and actually doing it are two very different things but because they're so different, I'd consider them equally important personally. There need to be spectators, people who are with us in spirit, or else, like Wotan mentionned, it becomes "you're either with us or against us".
Which is a closed-minded attitude that i don't think many explorers (being generally open-minded people) would have.
Urban Exploration Montreal
Why are you the way that you are? |
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asdafaf
Location: oe'r yonder
I have always been here before.
| | | Re: seeking Urban Explorers for a documentary
<Reply # 19 on 1/31/2003 1:28 AM >
| | | | I wonder if there is a topic, any topic, that could not be made into a debate on this board?
heh
I'm looking for software engineers to hire at Amazon. |
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