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 maply
 |  | Re: One messed up exploration
<Reply # 40 on 7/8/2005 9:55 PM >
|  | | | firstly, i apologize for the late reply
secondly, ZERO -
| You really think you'll never be in a situation that can't be handled by the items you mentioned? |
EXACTLY. i do honestly think that i will never be in a situation that can't be dealt with by those items. thus far, i've hardly gone anywhere where i felt those things were even worth bringing. if theres a place that i want to check out, but i think that there may be a slight chance that i'll have to kill someone for my own survival, then i'm just not going in. but if i think that i may possibly need to dog-mace some jerk, then i'll probably still go in there. i trust my own judgement, and i'm not going to put somebody's life on the line (mine, my friend's, or a squatter's) for the sake of my pastime.
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Abner
| |  | Re: One messed up exploration
<Reply # 41 on 7/9/2005 5:28 AM >
| | | | I carry a knife. I really hope I never have to hurt anyone with it.
How likely is it that squatters actually kill someone?
http://www.surefire.com . Maglites suck. |
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Arch-Image
   
Location: DFW
Gender: Male
"This gene pool could use a little chlorine."
| |  | Re: One messed up exploration
<Reply # 42 on 7/9/2005 2:13 PM >
| | | | Wow, thats scary as hell. It makes me think about the fact that 95% of the time I explore alone, but then I dont do some of the type places many people here do such as tunnels and "ghetto" areas as your describing. I drove through an area yesterday like that and saw several buildings that would be cool to check out and was thinking just that, hmmm have to find some help for this are! Glad ya made it out safe!
"Your kid may be an honor student but YOU'RE still an IDIOT!" |
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HillbillyHorus
Location: Charlottesville Virginia
Gender: Male
Im in ur government, killin ur d00dz
| | | Re: One messed up exploration
<Reply # 43 on 8/1/2005 3:58 AM >
| | | | Me and the people in my group are young teens, so safety is of the utmost importance. If I wanted to sell drugs, or drop a body, it would probably be in an abandoned factory. We obviously can't bring guns and such, but most tools we normally use can be used as clubs in a pinch. A crowbar is perfect for this.
But if I was in a situation where I would need a weapon, running would be my first thought. On the few occasions we've seen signs of people living or being in abandoned places, we leave immediately.
You can't fall off a mountain. |
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TurboZutek
  
King Dick
Location: Scotland
Gender: Male
Giant octo-penised rapephant
| |  | | Re: One messed up exploration
<Reply # 44 on 8/2/2005 7:27 PM >
| | | | Posted by Zero Horizon
As far as being less in need of a gun in Scotland/UK, British crime has risen even after gun control, and while gun crime itself dropped (although it too has risen recently) overall the level of violent crime has increased. Is that a fair trade-off? |
By 'voilent crime' you also include being punched in the face??? How does that compare to having your head blown off by a shotgun exactly?
UHmmm.. You know the UK has ALWAYS had 'gun control', right? It's not legal to operate anything other than a small air pistol / rifle here without a permit (which won't be granted unless you have a firing range, or are a farmer with a legitimate need for a shotgun).
http://www.ukgundealer.com/rules.htm
The worst you will encounter in Scotland is a Ned with a knife. That's fine by me: I hope I never see a Ned with a gun. Idiots running around with machine guns, pistols and rifles here just doesn't happen, thank fuck.
Here's a quick comparison for straight-forward gun related homicides:
(Edit: Stats image fucked)
It appears in Scotland we are statistically more likely to die in a crushing accident with a horse than get shot. I rather like that.
Chris...
PS: Good job your OK DJ... Nice one!
[last edit 8/3/2005 11:02 AM by TurboZutek - edited 1 times]
We all had ostriches. My dad had an ostrich farm! I remember one day someone came in and said the high altitude bombing of Kosovo had been a limited success, so we all went out and celebrated… by killing an ostrich and boiling it in kiwi fruit. |
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Axle
Location: Milton, ON
Gender: Male
Sieg oder Tod
| | Re: One messed up exploration
<Reply # 45 on 8/2/2005 8:02 PM >
| | | | Wow, that would be rather freaky to experience. Since I live in canada carrying a gun around is not an option (legal option that is). I do still carry a swiss army knife. Not much but it's something.
Celer at Audax
Para la Victoria Siempre Alemanes! |
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Abe Bandon
Location: Mid-essa, Texas
Gender: Male
| | Re: One messed up exploration
<Reply # 46 on 8/2/2005 8:38 PM >
| | | | When it comes to having the protection of weapons I prefer a mag-lite and steel toe boots. Seriously no one questions boots, and it seems everyone on the UE site considers their mag-lite a weapon.
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Boons
Location: Montreal
Gender: Male
| | Re: One messed up exploration
<Reply # 47 on 8/3/2005 8:03 AM >
| | | | Posted by Zero Horizon
if you're carrying a "deadly" weapon
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LMAO
Nice use of quotation marks.
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function
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
| | | Re: One messed up exploration
<Reply # 48 on 9/6/2005 8:18 PM >
| | | | Posted by abandonedsc
I carry a .45 when I'm exploring by myself, but if I'm with others, I don't so as to keep them out of trouble. I'd rather take that chance. |
ROTFL ... being from Canada, the idea of UE'ing with a 1911 or something is so absurd as to be comic (this isn't a diss, abandonedsc -- just that it is SO far outside the envelope for us here).
I don't consider any of my mag-lites to be weapons ... I wouldn't UE w/ a weapon.
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DocHolliday
Location: Olde Virginia
Gender: Male
| | Re: One messed up exploration
<Reply # 49 on 9/7/2005 2:21 AM >
|  | | | I always carry my gun (S&W 44 Magnum Trail Boss) and my knife. I carry this bad boy in the small of my back. Plus I've been trained in Sayoc Kali (Phillipine Knife Fighting), and hand to hand combat. My Dad was a Army MP, so he taught me everything he knows. You have to be one tough SOB to be an Army MP.
In Order To Protect, We Must First Learn To Destroy.
Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggy.'
until you can reach for a rock.
- John Wayne |
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Jen X
Location: Rochester, New York
Gender: Female
Survivors will be violated.
| | | Re: One messed up exploration
<Reply # 50 on 9/21/2005 11:40 PM >
| | | | I keep a can of pepper spray on me at all times when I'm exploring.
Malevolant entites never ask for photo ID.
"I'd so UE that"- FoxTwoFoxTwo |
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Cowboy Wayne
Location: Evansville, Indiana.
Gender: Male
I'm sorry; I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.
| | Re: One messed up exploration
<Reply # 51 on 9/22/2005 12:56 AM >
| | | | DocHolliday - I saw that pick you posted of your gun in the "Other" forum. Doesn't that thing hurt when you fire it? The gun's so tiny, and .44 magnum is a little excessive, especially for self-defense. In many states, anything bigger than a .45 for self-defense is gonna be questioned.
As for myself, I have a Swiss Army knife. I don't expect to be cutting anything other than hard to open film packages. If I ever explore an iffy site, I may invest in something less lethal, like a collapsable baton or mag lite. Whether it's legal for you to carry a deadly weapon or not, cops get iffy if you're trespassing AND armed.
No, the guy in my av isn't actually me. |
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atomx
Location: Brighton, ON
Gender: Male
| | | Re: One messed up exploration
<Reply # 52 on 9/22/2005 1:04 AM >
| | | | I just carry my Gerber Multi-Tool
I actually have the older one of this one, but still the similar.
Just in case I get into a situation where I got to open/get myself somewhere.
[last edit 9/22/2005 1:05 AM by atomx - edited 1 times]
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Richard Cook |
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function
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
| | | Re: One messed up exploration
<Reply # 53 on 9/29/2005 3:56 PM >
| | | | Posted by Cowboy Wayne
DocHolliday - I saw that pick you posted of your gun in the "Other" forum. Doesn't that thing hurt when you fire it? The gun's so tiny, and .44 magnum is a little excessive, especially for self-defense. In many states, anything bigger than a .45 for self-defense is gonna be questioned.
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The argument usually goes that if the situation is at the point where you have an imminent need to put a hole in something, put the biggest hole in it you can.
There is a reason LEOs themselves are moving AWAY from 9MMP to .40 and .45 again, after many years of just the opposite happening.
T.
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The Third Eye Man
Location: Columbia SC
Gender: Male
| | Re: One messed up exploration
<Reply # 54 on 10/30/2006 11:06 PM >
| | | | Bigger holes are always better.
It's nice to see that we are so well-armed down in here in the Palmetto State...ah, the 2nd Amendment is beautiful thing.
On the other hand, I would think if you were found in violations of state or local laws then most likely your concealed carry permit would be revoked at the very least. Or you get nailed with at least a weapons possession charge if you are carrying unpapered, not good.
I can see the point of people that don't want to carry overt weapons during UE, but I'll admit there are situations (superior numbers of opponents as mentioned previously) that can't be handled with a crowbar, a Mag-lite or a blast of pepper-spray--although if you used them all on him at once he'd probably be reduced to just a crying lumpy puddle at your feet--because by their very natures, the first two are contact weapons, ie you have to be rolling around on the floor with him to use them, putting you within range of his weapons.
A firearm is useful because if Mr. Crackhead Sterno Bum sees someone draw down on him maybe his fried brain cells will fire up and decide that maybe its not a good idea to smash their skull in with a hunk of rebar for their shoes.
No shots need to be fired, it's not that as if drawing a firearm automatically means that it will used. This not to say that the gun should used as a bluff, if you pull it out, you'd better be prepared to fire.
Most of the time, even stupid people realize that they are not bulletproof and no one wants to get shot, no matter how big or small the gun is.
Ashley
[last edit 10/30/2006 11:31 PM by The Third Eye Man - edited 3 times]
"Against boredom, even the Gods struggle in vain." -- F. Nietzsche
"All governments are liars." -- I.F. Stone
"Use enough gun." -- R. Ruark |
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Lexi
Location: Oslo, Norway
Gender: Female
I'm getting old.
| | Re: One messed up exploration
<Reply # 55 on 10/30/2006 11:20 PM >
| | | | I carry my gerber and my 3" blade.
Stupidly, I too go exploring alone, but most of the squatters here freak out at first but don't get violent. If you explain yourself they're usually okay.
We've met a few that've been a bit strung out and.. well. vicious.
(girls are evil.)
[15:00:33] <SeeThirty> cause you're not likely to be anywhere that other people haven't been who didn't have protection
[15:00:41] <SeeThirty> still better safe than lexi |
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Jonsered
Location: Back in New Mexico where I belong
Gender: Male
Dressed for a scarecrow ball.........
| |  | | Re: One messed up exploration
<Reply # 56 on 10/30/2006 11:25 PM >
| | | | I have difficulty believing that this thread is still alive 1.5 years later!
Regardless, DJ, you made a good call. I often carry a pistol myself, but its always better to walk away (or run) than to hurt somebody or hurt yourself. We're explorers, not assault troops.
I have changed my personal exploring ethics code. From now on it will be: "Take only aimed shots, leave only hobo corpses." Copper scrappers, meth heads and homeless beware. The Jonsered cometh among you, bringing fear and dread.
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nomeus
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Location: FLA
Gender: Male
www.FLURBEX.com
| |  | | | Re: One messed up exploration
<Reply # 57 on 10/31/2006 4:31 AM >
| | | | FUCK THAT!
i dont run fast and if that was me, i would have been done for. of course i probably wouldnt go to a place in the ghetto by myself either
www.terraincognito.com
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mattsb2000
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Location: San Bernardino
Gender: Male
Your house is gone, your leg has been raped.
| | | Re: One messed up exploration
<Reply # 58 on 11/1/2006 2:38 AM >
| | | | Glad you made it out ok.
Avoid squatters.
Ghettotech
<Opheliaism> you are officially more of a sick fuck than ghost killa |
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Team Leader
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Location: Uptown,downtown,all around.
Gender: Male
| | Re: One messed up exploration
<Reply # 59 on 11/1/2006 2:54 PM >
| | | | Good story DJ.
Death Sentence- Live to die (good ole one)
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