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 Juche
 
Location: Lincoln, NE
Gender: Male
 |  |  | Exiting UE, going into Law Enforcement
< on 9/11/2013 9:49 PM >
|  | | | It is with some reluctance that I have now decided I can no longer participate in urban exploration. This is only because I am now seeking a career in law enforcement. While I thankfully have never been caught during any of my snooping, I can’t continue to take the risk as I try and apply at various agencies and begin the process of preparing what I have come to believe is my life’s calling.
This may seem antithetical to a group of folks who by their nature tend to be libertarian-minded and dismissive of authority (especially of the uniformed sort), but positive change can be made from the inside, especially in this bureaucratic and institutionally ossified world.
Interestingly enough, part of what attracts me to law enforcement is the same set of facets that attracted me to urban exploration since I could ride a bike: the sense of novelty, the desire to see what most folks don’t encounter on a daily basis, the physical and intellectual challenge, and the close kinship of a like-minded community. Hell, let’s not forget the cool toys as well. Cool flashlights are loved by LEOs and UEs alike!
While I have but a few posts on this forum, I did write a fair bit on my personal website, helping introduce folks to UE. As you can see, I’ve had this account since 2009, and have poked around here, yet never contributed much.
In my four years in college, all my friends on my speech and debate team got to know my wanderlust antics very well. Many of my photos were shared on Facebook, and my explorations were followed by many of my friends.
I mostly poked around active buildings, as there are few abandoned buildings in my neck of the woods (that I know of). In fact, most of my explorations were at my campus and at the campuses I visited during speech and debate tournaments.
The funny thing is, being a cop will most likely lead to some incidental urban exploration, as building searches for not-so-nice people are part of the job description. I’ll certainly be the first to volunteer for boiler room/abandonment/roof top searches among my peers.
Naturally, I’ve had to fess up to a bit of my activities during the criminal history statement I made to my (hopeful) employers. This is a document where you divulge any criminal activity that you can remember you’ve partaken in, even if you were never caught or spotted by an officer.
It’s natural for many law enforcement applicants to admit to childhood shenanigans: experimental marijuana use, a theft of a candy bar, and in my case - the recreational trespassing. While some who are new to the LEO application process may advise me to just omit this, I will have to go through a polygraph test (assuming I get that far - fingers crossed) to verify everything I wrote and everything I didn’t write.
In the meantime, I’ll just have to be an armchair explorer, at least for now.
Stay safe, have fun, and God bless each and every one of you. I’ll be sure to give any urbexers a easy go if I happen to run into any as “the man.” Remember you may have at least one friend in law enforcement.
P.S. If you want any photos of my activities over the past four or so years, just message me. I know the “I’ve been doing UE for a long time but just joined UER” line gets a tad old around here, but I do really mean it.
Deleting several pages off of my personal site was a hard decision to make:
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Vampirequeen
 
Location: Connecticut
Gender: Female
| | Re: Exiting UE, going into Law Enforcement
<Reply # 1 on 9/11/2013 10:02 PM >
| | | | Good luck!
Seek and ye shall find... |
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RescueMe1060
     
Location: San Francisco
Gender: Male
Radioactivity, its in the air for you & me
| | Re: Exiting UE, going into Law Enforcement
<Reply # 2 on 9/12/2013 12:37 AM >
| | | | Good for you man! I'm in the exact same boat as you, going through the exact same motions and everything. A few years ago that wasn't the case, but now I'm required to maintain professionalism with the local Sheriff Office. It's a strange but worthwhile feeling, being able to work on "the other side" of the yellow tape. You're going to have so much fun, I hope the employment process goes smoothly. You should post a link to your personal site, just b/c you've chosen Law Enforcement doesn't mean you can't still hangout on uer.ca with us. best of luck man!
http://www.flickr....rescueme1060/sets/
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Steed
  
Location: Edmonton/Seoul
Gender: Male
Your Friendly Neighbourhood Race Traitor
| | | Re: Exiting UE, going into Law Enforcement
<Reply # 3 on 9/12/2013 12:42 AM >
| | | | We get two kinds of law enforcement on this site: spies trying to bust us and genuine urban explorers employed in LEO. The latter is always welcome, despite a few mixups.
I admit I'm also extremely curious how you chose your username.
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Aleksandar
Location: United States
Gender: Male
your darkest shadow, my oldest friend; the world's become ashes, this is the end.
| | Re: Exiting UE, going into Law Enforcement
<Reply # 4 on 9/12/2013 3:30 AM >
| | | | Posted by Steed
I admit I'm also extremely curious how you chose your username.
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haha I know right? I don't think it's related though 
Freedom breeds war; and Peace, slavery. So it shall be forevermore: Men who love freedom buy it with their lives, and lovers of peace with their freedom. |
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Juche
Location: Lincoln, NE
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Exiting UE, going into Law Enforcement
<Reply # 5 on 9/12/2013 4:22 AM >
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| Good for you man! I'm in the exact same boat as you, going through the exact same motions and everything. A few years ago that wasn't the case, but now I'm required to maintain professionalism with the local Sheriff Office. |
Thanks for the support folks! I don’t think it will be a big issue, it’s just that the application process for many agencies is fiercely competitive. Think: 24 folks applying for 1 spot, 400 for 36, or 3,000 for 250. Thus, even the smallest thing can be the razor’s edge between getting accepted and getting passed over for another year.
| We get two kinds of law enforcement on this site: spies trying to bust us and genuine urban explorers employed in LEO. The latter is always welcome, despite a few mixups. |
An understandable concern, but one I wish to assuage you from any worry. If my aim was to honey pot information to pass on to prosecutors, I’d have been doing a phenomenally incompetent job of it during the last four years.
Frankly, any professional LE agency has much better things to do (not to mention limitations on people-power and overtime budgets) than stalk urban explorers on forums in the off chance they might get a trespassing charge.
If that were my task, I’d have to resign in protest. I want to be a cop to deal with violent felons, predators who prey upon children, drunk and aggressive drivers ... all that lot. If you want any more information to prove my bona fides, I'd be happy to discuss the matter further with you. And since I'm applying for one of the best agencies in my state, I couldn't bother anyone outside of my jurisdiction unless it was serious, felony-level crime. Trespassing rarely meets that mark. So you're safe. ;)
| I admit I'm also extremely curious how you chose your username. |
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| haha I know right? I don't think it's related though |
Juche is the “self-reliance” or nation-first ideology of North Korea’s founder Kim Il-sung. While I consider myself a moderate libertarian, I admit I have a morbid fascination with the world’s last Stalinist totalitarian dictatorship. So in the sense that the folks in Pyongyang forge ahead with their “fuck you Western world, we’ll do our own thing;” I also carried the same bull-headedness into my explorations: independent, self-reliant, and always with a gleeful faith in what I was doing.
That being said, please don’t take any of that as condoning the starvation, human rights abuses, mass imprisonment, anti-freedom of movement (i.e. pure UE hell), and wanton disregard for life that North Korea’s leaders show for their people.
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Arps
Location: Northern Indiana
Gender: Male
| | Re: Exiting UE, going into Law Enforcement
<Reply # 6 on 9/12/2013 1:11 PM >
| | | | congratulations, and good luck!
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fiftyone_eggs
Location: jerzey
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Exiting UE, going into Law Enforcement
<Reply # 7 on 9/12/2013 1:22 PM >
| | | | Good luck and go easy on the UErs you bust in the future.
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DevilC
Location: Washington, District of Corruption
Gender: Male
I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their views.
| | | Re: Exiting UE, going into Law Enforcement
<Reply # 8 on 9/12/2013 1:40 PM >
| | | | This post fails ... hard.
You clearly don't know much about the actual work and daily life in law enforcement ... nor the admissions and hiring process.
It's not either or/neither nor.
Some of us do incredibly awesome things for the .Gov and actively explore.
Science flies you to the Moon. Religion flies you into tall buildings. |
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ahhntzville
Location: Boston
| | Re: Exiting UE, going into Law Enforcement
<Reply # 9 on 9/12/2013 1:59 PM >
| | | | Posted by Juche
This may seem antithetical to a group of folks who by their nature tend to be libertarian-minded
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You must be thinking of some other forum. Try breaking an abandoned window or spray-painting an abandoned wall, and see how libertarian-minded folks here are.
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AD Kodak
Location: Gainesville, TX
Gender: Male
As we're leaving we'll find the easy way in.
| | | Re: Exiting UE, going into Law Enforcement
<Reply # 10 on 9/12/2013 2:48 PM >
| | | | Wish you the best of luck. Maybe your experiences in UE will help your judgement in law enforcement for years to come.
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NotBatman
Location: MSP
Gender: Male
Secret Cult Member
| | Re: Exiting UE, going into Law Enforcement
<Reply # 11 on 9/12/2013 3:11 PM >
| | | | I think this guy's a cop...
I'm a "Leave only footprints, take only pornography" kind of guy, myself. |
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Steed
Location: Edmonton/Seoul
Gender: Male
Your Friendly Neighbourhood Race Traitor
| | | Re: Exiting UE, going into Law Enforcement
<Reply # 12 on 9/12/2013 3:43 PM >
| | | | Posted by NotBatman
I think this guy's a cop...
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I think this guy's possibly Batman.
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NotBatman
Location: MSP
Gender: Male
Secret Cult Member
| | Re: Exiting UE, going into Law Enforcement
<Reply # 13 on 9/12/2013 5:04 PM >
| | | | Posted by Steed
I think this guy's possibly Batman.
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Whaaaaat? Nooo!
I'm a "Leave only footprints, take only pornography" kind of guy, myself. |
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GLP.
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Gender: Male
| | Re: Exiting UE, going into Law Enforcement
<Reply # 14 on 9/12/2013 5:28 PM >
| | | | Good luck man you might actually be one of the very very few who make a positive difference.
We are professionals pretending to be amateurs. |
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relik
Location: 44.26126°,-88.41502° (Appleton, WI)
Gender: Male
There is no truth, Only a perspective.
| | | Re: Exiting UE, going into Law Enforcement
<Reply # 15 on 9/12/2013 7:52 PM >
| | | | I've explored with a cop.
"When it rains, just find bigger drains." |
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Trackrunner
I picked up the ball, and drainball was created.
| | Re: Exiting UE, going into Law Enforcement
<Reply # 16 on 9/12/2013 8:27 PM >
| | | | It certainly would be awkward to ever be caught exploring by you, but also very lucky.
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Vectored Approach
Location: Morgan Hill, CA
Gender: Male
| | Re: Exiting UE, going into Law Enforcement
<Reply # 17 on 9/12/2013 10:31 PM >
| | | | Posted by relik
I've explored with a cop.
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Therrin has most likely explored a cop.
Honesty may be the best policy, but it's important to remember that apparently, by elimination, dishonesty is the second-best policy. -George Carlin (1937 - 2008) |
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Juche
Location: Lincoln, NE
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Exiting UE, going into Law Enforcement
<Reply # 18 on 9/13/2013 3:21 AM >
| | | | This post fails ... hard.
You clearly don't know much about the actual work and daily life in law enforcement ... nor the admissions and hiring process. |
Uh ... thanks DevilC? Care to enlighten me on what secret wisdom you seem to have that I clearly don't?
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sirpsychosexy
Location: Netherlands
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Exiting UE, going into Law Enforcement
<Reply # 19 on 9/13/2013 10:28 AM >
| | | | I regularly explore with 2 ex-cops who quit because of the focus on non-priorities, like giving people who cycle on a footpath tickets. Surely they agree that there's so many more important things than cycling on a footpath or some weirdo's exploring old crap. They wanted to change things, but they didn't get the chance. I hope you get to be the same kind of cop but DO get the chance!
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