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| | Re: Real Asbestos Lung <Reply # 17 on 11/14/2011 9:38 PM >
| | | Posted by ervanalb " It can take anywhere from 10 to 40 years for someone to develop an asbestos-related illness after their exposure. Disease is very unlikely to result from a single, high-level exposure, or from a short period of exposure to lower levels." Basically, what I'm trying to say is that if you've experienced high-level exposure, you'll realize it. If it's at all questionable, you probably haven't.
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Well, I am going to have to completely disagree with you there for several reasons. I am not trying to warn everyone of their eventual and certain death from exposure, but I am trying to clarify how dangerous this stiff is. Though it might not kill you, you should still be aware of it. Your article that was cited is more than 10years old, which is the first problem. Most everything we know about asbestos pertaining to disease state and progression was from certain advancements in immunohistochemistry and molecular biology/genetics techniques. Much like, say cancer in general, we knew it was bad for a long time, but we are just now starting to figure out how it works. But, using the article that you cited I want to clarify that the statement, "Disease is very unlikely to result from a single, high-level exposure, or from a short period of exposure to lower levels" is not at all describing the conditions that one could face in a derelict building. If you do it once, it may count as your "single high-level exposure" but after repeated times it adds up. After doing further research into what I can/cant say about patient samples I get in my lab, I can tell you this about the above pictured lung: "Patient was 65 years of age, retired 5 years, physically active, exposure was occupational resulting from asbestos leaching from an Excelon Vinyl Asbestos Tile installed in June 1960 at patients place of office." "High foot traffic and low ventilation resulted with intake of asbestos over a 20 year period at low levels (10million fibers/liter air)" Now keep in mind that in the US the drinking water can not go over 7 million fibers of asbestos per liquid liter. In all fairness most places are usually running >1 million fibers/Liter... My final though is on the statement, "Basically, what I'm trying to say is that if you've experienced high-level exposure, you'll realize it. If it's at all questionable, you probably haven't." Unless you have some undiscovered nerve endings inside your lungs that no one else has, this is very untrue and dangerous to say. There is no way you could realize the dangers your body is going through. Most people dont discover the problem until it is too late and they are already in the mid to late stages of cancer. Enough of my rant. You can PM me if you want to go into more about it ervanalb. Message approved by:
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