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 Giblet
 
Location: Atlanta
Gender: Male
 |  | Overcoming Fear Of
< on 9/28/2004 6:08 PM >
|  | | | I've been a UE'er since before it had any name other than 'pathological curiosity'. However, I find that as I age, I'm much more easily scared-off a site by:
1) Nagging certainty that I have been observed (and reported to authorities).
2) Squatters who see 'some Old-Guy with a half-decent camera'.
3) Nagging certainty that 'something' is right behind me in this very dark and spooky old building.
Maybe it's a growing paranoia, a dietary imbalance or something. I would expect the opposite to occur; repeatedly confronting these fears and proving them unfounded should allay those fears. Right?
I have always talked my way out of tresspassing charges. Every time.
I can still out-intimidate, or if needs-be, whoop-ass on any one trog.
I do not believe in ghosts or paranormal BS at all.
So WTH? Anybody have mental exercises to share? Does one's imagination grow with use, and if so, does it eventually take over? (That would actually be kinda cool, I guess)
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ASC Jake
 
Location: South Carolina
Gender: Male
Proudly a founding member of The Little Lebowski Urban Achievers
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<Reply # 1 on 9/28/2004 6:26 PM >
| | | | Well I do something that helps with these fears. I explore in a group. At least one of us has a gun, and all of us can talk our way out of tresspassing troubles. Flash lights help scare away the boogie man, that guy hates the LCD lights!
"I doubt the bus driver knew the difference considering her primary research source was Mel Gibson."
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RevSM
Location: South Central Texas
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<Reply # 2 on 9/28/2004 6:36 PM >
| | | | I feel just the opposite. Recently I’ve noticed a growing lack of fear when it comes to almost any UE related problems. Several times in the past if I had just laid low for a little while the prominent danger (cops patrolling, security, etc.) would have gone away and left me to continue exploring. Now, the most I really worry about is shining a flashlight outside a window at cars sitting at a stoplight. I’ve also started using my flash a lot less conservatively. I’ve had countless close calls over the years but never any consequences and I think that's what is making me worry less and less. I’m afraid that my increased boldness is going to catch up with me sooner or later. *knocks on wood*.
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Servo
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<Reply # 3 on 9/28/2004 6:42 PM >
| | | | Do you go in a group? I don't generally go alone, and I know having a group makes me feel more confident, and ironically enough, that confidence usually helps other people I bring who are less experienced with putting aside their fears.
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BigPoppaMikey
 
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<Reply # 4 on 9/28/2004 7:10 PM >
| | | | Posted by ASC Crew jake
Well I do something that helps with these fears. I explore in a group. At least one of us has a gun, and all of us can talk our way out of tresspassing troubles. Flash lights help scare away the boogie man, that guy hates the LCD lights!
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You can talk your way out a crime with the cops and have a gun on you? What, are you not getting searched or are you threatening the cops with it???? This whole thing from you baffles me.
All of 18 years old too! WOW, can I explore with you. You are so cool carrying a gun and everything!!! Do you have a permit for it or is it something bought off of the street and stolen?
[last edit 9/28/2004 7:11 PM by BigPoppaMikey - edited 1 times]
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<Reply # 5 on 9/28/2004 7:11 PM >
| | | | I don't go in a group, but I usually have at least one other person with me. It's not so much that a building will freak me out, it's just more in case something happens, we get caught, etc.
"I feel like I just got in a battle of wits with some kid in a helmet I found licking a window."
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Inphenity
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 6 on 9/28/2004 7:37 PM >
| | | | i dont think that asc jake carries a gun .. however i have met some of his crew and a few of them have concealed weapons permits and are responsible gun owners
... well yea actually this is a flashlight in my pocket .. but im still happy to see you |
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<Reply # 7 on 9/28/2004 7:48 PM >
| | | | Although I almost always explore with at least one other person the odd time I do go alone I actually enjoy the feeling of uncertainty and the adrenaline rush ever time I hear an unexpected sound or voices outside. It's all part of the fun!
If you do find yourself feeling too anxious perhaps you should find someone else to go with.
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DjMalign
Location: Fort Collins, CO
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 8 on 9/28/2004 10:19 PM >
|  | | | Posted by Inphenity
i dont think that asc jake carries a gun .. however i have met some of his crew and a few of them have concealed weapons permits and are responsible gun owners
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I'm sorry but tresspassing with guns, permits or no permits is just a bad idea. There are plenty of other ways of defending yourself from vagrants than shooting them.
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ASC Jake
Location: South Carolina
Gender: Male
Proudly a founding member of The Little Lebowski Urban Achievers
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<Reply # 9 on 9/29/2004 12:08 AM >
| | | | Posted by BigPoppaMikey
All of 18 years old too! WOW, can I explore with you. You are so cool carrying a gun and everything!!! Do you have a permit for it or is it something bought off of the street and stolen?
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Of course I don't own/carry a gun. I can't obtain a concealed weapons permit, nor a proper gun for that matter. A simple "I don't believe you" would have been sufficient. No need to attack me personally because you're uninformed.
"I doubt the bus driver knew the difference considering her primary research source was Mel Gibson."
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'Dukes
Noble Donor
Gender: Male
At least someone llikes me
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<Reply # 10 on 9/29/2004 12:22 AM >
| | | | Well back on track;
I'm not sure what mental exercises you are talking about ;
But I've started having dreams, no so much nightmares about exploring; and I havent' been anywhere in at least a month, since I lost my sidekick; it's just not fun without this person.
But I'll get back to the office after an early morning job, recline the leather chair at my desk, and pass out for about twenty seconds; during that time I'm dreaming about brick tunnels, and there is an openening with graffiti someone has broken the wall. I look through and the scene is just like out of LOTR but with no orcs, all this machinery humming everywhere in this cavern a mile wide. And I wake up after snoozing for about 2 minutes.
Other than being screwed up, I can't know what you mean by "mental exercices". Like "how do prepare mentally?" That type of thing?
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Gunslinger
Location: The Wasteland "Peel Region"
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 11 on 9/29/2004 12:47 AM >
| | | | Personally i have a reckless lack of regard for my life and personal safety, so most things dont really bother me (ive been told im crazy numerous times). I am also not very scared of death or getting caught, i deal with things as they come. For example i have climbed the stairway of death at the Canada malt co. for fun. So i generally do not advise this mindset for most people, seeing as I do lots of dangerous stuff and will most likely die falling off some smokestack somewhere, but w/e.
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Mark
Very Noble Donor
Location: South Carolina
Gender: Male
What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?
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<Reply # 12 on 9/29/2004 1:21 AM >
| | | | BPM your view of other states laws are very wrong, rember your in California. Take vermont, so gun friendly nearly everyone carries freely. Alaska is basicly the same way but abides by 21 and over. I carry concealed when Im in my home town or away from my current habitat. The weapon does not make me feel safe, the training in firearms, knives, and non lethal subduing does. However it will never make me feel 100 safe, or make me worry.
Gilbet
From past exsperince I have gotten UE shell shock, going out to much and getting to close to cops. Doing massively nasty infilitartions into pretty active sites. It makes you get paranoide. After a while you just tell yourself to calm down and breath in the enviroment. Are you panicy (no pun there Panic) or is the little voice tell you "get the fuck out." Learning the diference can save your life. Going out into woods you have never been in can help you diferentiate the feeling of just fear of the unknown and ohh shit fealing. They are quite different if you get to know them.
[last edit 9/29/2004 1:22 AM by Mark - edited 1 times]
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Samurai
Vehicular Lord Rick
Location: northeastern New York
No matter where you go, there you are...
| | Re: Overcoming Fear Of
<Reply # 13 on 9/29/2004 1:32 AM >
| | | | Last time me and Willy went wandering around Tahawus, there was no mental build-up. We went at like a job. That's just the way he and I and some of the people we explore with are. We approach everything systematically. As we were walking into the place, we were deciding where we wanted to start versus depth of snow and ease of passage. Also, we were trying to decide how we wanted to film it... comedy, drama, documentary... it's not that we don't have imagination, its just that things go smoother with a plan.
There was only time when I was mildly uncomfortable... we were in this building with two huge furnaces/boilers. Unlike the rest of the buildings out there, this one was confined, dark, and really really creepy. I was not digging ti at all because my silly ass has seen too many movies. But because we were filming and my reputation was on display, I played it cool and let Will lead the way. On tape, this place doesn't look at all imposing, but I was sincerely edgy.
On another occassion exploring Tahawus with Bickel, we were wandering the lower floors of one of seperation buildings when I kicked an Oscar Meyer hotdog wrapper. I thought that seemed like an odd place for that. So I bent over to check it out and the thing was fresh, still had the bubbles/blobs of hotdog juice in it. Um, ok... It was about that time that Bickel shone the flashlight beam over against the south wall and there was someones' 'camp'. There was a cot, some clothes, beer and other things... then it hit me, the skin started to crawl on the back of my neck. We were being watched. Jesus mary and joseph... and where we were was one of the darker places in the complex. There was heavy underbrush along our wall and not an easy run if we had to hoof it. At 300lbs+, I am not going to hoof it far or fast. So we start making for the door and Bickels' truck. I'm sure there was someone on the stairway, just behind the plastic watching us. That was creepy. Folr someone to be out in the middle of nowhere, camping in this place, they had to be a bit off.
I still won't go out there and walk around alone.
I am very perceptive to when things are 'wrong'. I can't explain it any better than that. I think that would be my greatest overcoming attribute... know fear, avoid fear.
I guess I am a little talkative tonite... oops.
Samurai
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j0lt
Location: Kobe, Japan
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Overcoming Fear Of
<Reply # 14 on 9/29/2004 1:35 AM >
|  | | | Posted by Giblet
3) Nagging certainty that 'something' is right behind me in this very dark and spooky old building.
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Fear of the dark, fear of the dark
I have a constant fear that something's always near
Fear of the dark, fear of the dark
I have a phobia that someone's always there
It's this exact sensation that makes UE such a thrill even before you've entered a site. Your brain reminding you of all those horror movies that start out this way (young people entering an abandoned building at night, possibly in the woods). 
Happy exploring.
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Samurai
Vehicular Lord Rick
Location: northeastern New York
No matter where you go, there you are...
| | Re: Overcoming Fear Of
<Reply # 15 on 9/29/2004 1:36 AM >
| | | | Posted by Mark
BPM your view of other states laws are very wrong, rember your in California. Take vermont, so gun friendly nearly everyone carries freely. Alaska is basicly the same way but abides by 21 and over. I carry concealed when Im in my home town or away from my current habitat. The weapon does not make me feel safe, the training in firearms, knives, and non lethal subduing does. However it will never make me feel 100 safe, or make me worry.
Gilbet
From past exsperince I have gotten UE shell shock, going out to much and getting to close to cops. Doing massively nasty infilitartions into pretty active sites. It makes you get paranoide. After a while you just tell yourself to calm down and breath in the enviroment. Are you panicy (no pun there Panic) or is the little voice tell you "get the fuck out." Learning the diference can save your life. Going out into woods you have never been in can help you diferentiate the feeling of just fear of the unknown and ohh shit fealing. They are quite different if you get to know them.
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Mark, I work in Vermont and spend alot of time in Vermont... don't be fooled. Most of the people that live in Vermont are ex-hippies and liberal types riding around in Volvos listening to NPR and playing the stock market. The hardcore hillbillies more carry rifles than anything else. That's what is so weird about Vermont... mellow gun laws, weird but sparce violence. I swear there is something in the water over there that medicates those folks! 
Here in NY, you get caught with a pistol with no permit and no registration on the weapon, it is like an automatic sentence of 5 years in prison. NY doesn't dick around.
Samurai
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'Dukes
Noble Donor
Gender: Male
At least someone llikes me
| | | Re: Overcoming Fear Of
<Reply # 16 on 9/29/2004 1:41 AM >
| | | | Posted by Samurai
Last time me and Willy went wandering around Tahawus, there was no mental build-up. We went at like a job. That's just the way he and I and some of the people we explore with are. We approach everything systematically. As we were walking into the place, we were deciding where we wanted to start versus depth of snow and ease of passage. Also, we were trying to decide how we wanted to film it... comedy, drama, documentary... it's not that we don't have imagination, its just that things go smoother with a plan.
There was only time when I was mildly uncomfortable... we were in this building with two huge furnaces/boilers. Unlike the rest of the buildings out there, this one was confined, dark, and really really creepy. I was not digging ti at all because my silly ass has seen too many movies. But because we were filming and my reputation was on display, I played it cool and let Will lead the way. On tape, this place doesn't look at all imposing, but I was sincerely edgy.
On another occassion exploring Tahawus with Bickel, we were wandering the lower floors of one of seperation buildings when I kicked an Oscar Meyer hotdog wrapper. I thought that seemed like an odd place for that. So I bent over to check it out and the thing was fresh, still had the bubbles/blobs of hotdog juice in it. Um, ok... It was about that time that Bickel shone the flashlight beam over against the south wall and there was someones' 'camp'. There was a cot, some clothes, beer and other things... then it hit me, the skin started to crawl on the back of my neck. We were being watched. Jesus mary and joseph... and where we were was one of the darker places in the complex. There was heavy underbrush along our wall and not an easy run if we had to hoof it. At 300lbs+, I am not going to hoof it far or fast. So we start making for the door and Bickels' truck. I'm sure there was someone on the stairway, just behind the plastic watching us. That was creepy. Folr someone to be out in the middle of nowhere, camping in this place, they had to be a bit off.
I still won't go out there and walk around alone.
I am very perceptive to when things are 'wrong'. I can't explain it any better than that. I think that would be my greatest overcoming attribute... know fear, avoid fear.
I guess I am a little talkative tonite... oops.
Samurai
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Stop talking Tahawus ; you're giving me a hard on.
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mewthree
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Overcoming Fear Of
<Reply # 17 on 9/29/2004 1:51 AM >
| | | | Posted by ASC Crew jake
Well I do something that helps with these fears. I explore in a group. At least one of us has a gun, and all of us can talk our way out of tresspassing troubles. Flash lights help scare away the boogie man, that guy hates the LCD lights!
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HA HA HA
A gun? You aren't serious? What are you gonna do? Shoot the security guard who patrols the area you're exploring? As I see it... It works out "real" well to try and intimidate someone with a weapon you are too intimidated to use.
I once went exploring with an aquaintance and a good friend... The guy out-equipped James fu**kin Bond. I am used to exploring buildings with my smokes and my ordinary bic lighter for a torch. That's how I did it for redpath, PSC silos, silo #5, the dow, the stinky building... you name it. I don't understand people who feel the need to be armed to the teeth and be carrying 10 grand in espionage equipment.
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Mark
Very Noble Donor
Location: South Carolina
Gender: Male
What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?
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<Reply # 18 on 9/29/2004 2:02 AM >
| | | | Im sorry but I can't help myself.
Hey smart ass ever thought people do that cause its fun? Cause they like gadgets. "Hell I dont know why you want to go in some stinky old building" ,or does that not sound a little familar. Go with your pack of smokes. Some people repel off towers etc here. Gonna call them James Bond as well? Ohh yes Urban Explorer shoots rent a cop. Yeah bright Im sure anyone who does carry a firearm will pop a cop to get away. You got the logic of a meatball if you think its there for that. Also did you read the rest or were you to busy picking your nose to read the whys? At least BMP got the benifit of the doubt by posting first.
"If the threat level goes up its probably because of me." "I am looking for a girl who enjoys headbutting beltbuckles" |
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ASC Jake
Location: South Carolina
Gender: Male
Proudly a founding member of The Little Lebowski Urban Achievers
| | | Re: Overcoming Fear Of
<Reply # 19 on 9/29/2004 2:08 AM >
| | | | Ok people, someone asked a question and I answered it...why don't ya'll do the same and keep this thread on topic, instead of talking shit.
"I doubt the bus driver knew the difference considering her primary research source was Mel Gibson."
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