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| | | Re: 26-year-old from Northern Ontario falls, dies at R.L.Hearn < Reply # 160 on 6/18/2008 6:21 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Maybe it's just me, but I'd hate to see anyone not get involved in urban exploration because they have this idea that it's wildly dangerous. I don't want to make it sound like there's no element of danger in the places we go. I just think that if you're paying attention to what you're doing and not doing anything too foolish, then the likelihood of something tragic happening is fairly slim. I mean, with the exception of this recent event, the track record's been pretty good so far. As far as I know, anyway. There'll always be things that could happen within the places we explore that are beyond our control, but I think the same thing could be said if you're riding a bike, crossing a busy street or, I don't know.. walking through a rough neighbourhood. The most we can do is to take precautions, pay attention, know your own limitations along with the ones of the structures you're exploring. After that, like with so many other things in life, the most you can do is to hope for the best.
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| MutantMandias Perverse and Often Baffling
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| | | | Re: 26-year-old from Northern Ontario falls, dies at R.L.Hearn < Reply # 162 on 6/18/2008 6:38 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Crossfire You need to always be aware of where your feet are landing, what's hanging overhead, what's jutting out of walls.
| And even if you do all of that perfectly, there are still things that will happen that are beyond your control, and you may end up hurt, with some UER ass calling you a careless idiot.
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| cyn1c4l
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| | | Re: 26-year-old from Northern Ontario falls, dies at R.L.Hearn < Reply # 165 on 6/18/2008 6:57 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Detroit We could be discussing your death right now. Have some respect people.
| By and large, I don't think there's anyone who's taking this death lightly. But we need to discuss the situation surrounding the incident. We really do not know the circumstances surrounding what happened. And seeing as we do not know what happened, we can not rule out the following: A: The person could (note I said COULD, not did) have been acting like an idiot, jumping up and down on a catwalk. I have seen gimps do this kind of superman behavior. or B: The person was safely exploring, and an unfortunate set of cirumstances led to a catastrophic failure of the catwalk. [Edit: That stupid smiley face is supposed to be a B ), arghhh Fix'd by Mutt] As mature people, we need to acknowledge that one of the above scenario's is the cause. Further, for the younger crowd (meaning those who are more novice to this craft, rather than a description of age) there are many lessons to be learned here: -> A reinforcement as to why we don't go exploring alone (and why we shouldn't) -> Be aware of your surroudings when you are in a building which has been deteriorating for a number of years, AND undergoing demolition (a bad combination) -> Do not overestimate the stability of elements of the building. When you test a catwalk, or other precarious bridge, it may feel stable. This does not mean that it is stable.
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| argonian
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| | | Re: 26-year-old from Northern Ontario falls, dies at R.L.Hearn < Reply # 166 on 6/18/2008 7:11 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by cyn1c4l As mature people, we need to acknowledge that one of the above scenario's is the cause.
| No we don't. I read somewhere that he was composing a picture at the time. I know when I am composing I often take a step or two backwards, dragging my tripod along, without looking where I am going. This is another option to add to the hundreds of stories we can come up with. We do NOT have to know exactly what happened and we do NOT have to assume what happened. By and large, I don't think there's anyone who's taking this death lightly. | This is not true, some have taken it very lightly, still, what most are doing is using this as an opportunity to get on their high horse and preach about the media, personal safety, ethics, etc. I understand many will see this as me on my high horse and asking people to shut up and stop using this fellow for their personal cause, but seriously, if you want to discuss media, create a thread on media the same with personal safety, etc.
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| cyn1c4l
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| | | Re: 26-year-old from Northern Ontario falls, dies at R.L.Hearn < Reply # 167 on 6/18/2008 7:28 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by argonian No we don't. I read somewhere that he was composing a picture at the time. ... This is not true, some have taken it very lightly, still, what most are doing is using this as an opportunity to get on their high horse and preach about the media, personal safety, ethics, etc.
... but seriously, if you want to discuss media, create a thread on media the same with personal safety, etc.
| Regarding the first part of the quotation: I read that too, in the G&M article... again they do not know what happened. What I was meaning by that post, is not that these are the only two scenario's possible, rather we have to concede that with the amount of information given, or lack thereof, it is equally possible that said explorer was acting like a buffoon, as it is there was a tragic accident. Knowledge as to who this explorer was would tip the scales one way or the other. Regarding the second statement quoted, notice I said "by and large", as in the majority. As for the third part of my quotation above, I could not agree with you more. I believe we should use this as a forum to discuss repurcussions, but evil media posts should definitely be moved elsewhere. [Edited multiple times for spelling and grammatical corrections]
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| kowalski
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| | | Re: 26-year-old from Northern Ontario falls, dies at R.L.Hearn < Reply # 169 on 6/18/2008 7:31 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Argonian I understand many will see this as me on my high horse and asking people to shut up and stop using this fellow for their personal cause, but seriously, if you want to discuss media, create a thread on media the same with personal safety, etc.
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This thread started as a full member thread discussing what was then an accident resulting in serious injury. We've been arguing and speculating the broader issues around that since the beginning. The victim's subsequent death is not going to overrule the context of our discussions up until now, which is partly why I reacted so quickly to it being mistakenly transformed into a public thread. We're talking in this mode and we're going to continue to do so. Frankly I think this is more respectful than the kids over in the Chat who are busy planning what locations they're going to hit at this Saturday's monthly UER Toronto playmeet. Now, there's a public thread over in Main for people to post their heartfelt sympathies, but given the foundation of discussion that exists in this thread, I think this is very much the place to respectfully continue discussions about what this accident might mean to us, the city, the world. Let's keep our eyes clear and open. It would be nice if speculation could be kept in some sort of check, but since we're not going to be able to avoid it, it would just be good if it could be conducted with a bit more restraint, thought, and cleverness.
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| | | Re: 26-year-old from Northern Ontario falls, dies at R.L.Hearn < Reply # 176 on 6/18/2008 8:51 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by argonian This is not true, some have taken it very lightly, still, what most are doing is using this as an opportunity to get on their high horse and preach about the media, personal safety, ethics, etc.
| Some of us by nature, take such things lightly. My personal view of society as a whole is pretty different from most people, most in part because I deal with a section of the public that most would sooner dismiss and ignore. That said, it doesn't take away from the misfortune and the pain his family/friends are feeling. I've gone fairly off topic in other posts, but for the respect of Ryan and his family/friends, that won't happen again. Say what you will about the media, other explorers, etc...it doesn't take away from the fact that something very terrible happened this weekend. However, the unfortunate reality is that there are going to be reprecussions as a result of this, but I don't think speculating is the best thing - we can't change whatever changes are going to come down the pipe.
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