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| UER Forum > UE Main > Is it wise to bring a pocket knife with me while exploring? (Viewed 803 times) |
fr00tCake
Location: 0.506953, 73.450199 Gender: Male Total Likes: 223 likes
| | | Re: Is it wise to bring a pocket knife with me while exploring? < Reply # 5 on 1/26/2024 4:49 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | I carry a spring assisted folder with me everywhere, and have for 30+ years. It's a tool, not a weapon. My state has laws on blade length, and mine is indeed illegal. BUT - having several cops in my family, I know that regardless of the legality of your blade, if a cop wants it - they'll take it. And even if legal, they can still charge you for concealment. In my minimal inactions with Police, since I was not a disrespectful turd, they didn't care. It has been taken from me for their safety while we interacted, which is reasonable, but returned to me in the end. I have NEVER been cited for it, ever. Even when I had an incident of "sleep driving" (while it was prescribed, I'll NEVER take any form of sleeping pill EVER again), when I went to pick up my vehicle the next day, there was my pocket knife - in the passenger footwell. It was noted in the Police report - the cop took it from my pocket, parked my car, and tossed my blade on the floor. There are 100% asshole cops out there, but more often than not if you're not an entitled disrespectful asshole to them, you're going to have a much better day. As far as the weapon side goes, not once. Ever. Aggressive homeless, mentally unstable, and tweakers couldn't care less about your knife. It won't even slow them down. Don't forget they have nothing to lose. Plus - they probably have one too. Even the nutbars fear the same things you do. If you can't talk your way out of a confrontation, walk away. If you can't walk, run. If you can't run fast enough, drop your bag. 99% of the time, they'll stop and grab it, and there's nothing in there worth scuffling with a HIV+, Hep C+, frothing at the mouth rabies ridden nut job. Prevention goes a LOOOOONG way to avoid any interaction. Announce yourself. Let them know your intentions, and you have no concerns or intertest in them, their stuff, or the space they may have claimed as their own. If they tell you to GTFO, GTFO! They move around frequently - come back a few weeks later, they'll probably be gone. Cigarettes, booze, a couple singles, or even a cheeseburger will calm even the most savage beast. But, never forget - just because your offering appeased them, you still need to watch your back. Leave your wallet in the car. Carry only your ID and a couple of bucks. Every room you enter, every corner you turn, have an exit strategy. ALWAYS be prepared for the worse. Go ahead carry your knife or pepper spray if they make you feel safer. I know damn well I will 100% use my knife in self-defense if I have to. BUT... You and I both will probably never need the blade or pepper spray. In 40yrs of exploring, I've given up the few bucks, booze, smokes, and cheeseburgers. I have run. I have had the "phew... that was close". One guy that was ALWAYS present and watching some grain silos he occupied, I ended up gifting a $40 tent. Turned out to be a real nice guy. The crazy flailing arms "I'm gonna cut you" routine was all an act - and it worked well. In the end that knife has never come out of my pocket. It's a tool, not a weapon.
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| Abby Normal
Location: Las Vegas Gender: Female Total Likes: 845 likes
| | | | Re: Is it wise to bring a pocket knife with me while exploring? < Reply # 9 on 1/29/2024 5:04 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Obviously I'm involved in a specialty aspect of UE. I always carry two items when I am out exploring; a handheld flashlight and an assisted opening pocket knife. To be clear, I view a knife as a tool rather than a weapon in my situation. A knife is especially important to me when I'm on rope. As an example, if I'm rappelling down into a shaft and my shirt, hair, or a strap get tangled into the descender, I may have to cut them free. I need to be able to get the knife, open it, and cut myself free one-handed. I've had a couple of instances when my shirt or a loose strap got caught, but never so bad that I have to cut it away. That said, the risk of getting tangled in this environment compels me to keep a knife with me. Abby Normal
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