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| | | | Re: Better in the old days < Reply # 26 on 6/23/2020 1:56 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by strangePlaces One will have to be blind to say that exploring stayed "the same" At least from Toronto-centric perspective the landscape is nowhere nearly as abundant as it used to be. Golden age existed, and now we are in some sort of new era, which is not necessarily bad, but certainly quite quite different. Huge epic industrial locations are all gone, and this scale of industrial legacy will never repeat like this. Think of a dozen classic spots that stayed here for decades. Now, even if something pops up, it goes relatively quickly. Public/media/authorities awareness is much higher, too many things have been done by too many people without regard to the nature of the hobby. Security technology have gone crazy, explorers of older age did not have to deal with something like this. It doesnt take a lot of effort to see it - go to any explorable site and problems are hanging by the dozen everywhere. I hope that all the wrong things will burn off at some point and some new equilibrium will be established. And as good as it may be, I will still miss the way everything's been long time ago.
| Agreed. UE has gotten harder in booming Canadian cities with the constant development/demolitions, improved security measures, and increased awareness of the hobby. Even just a couple years ago, places weren't being as secured as tightly as they are now in my city, and instead of having lots of time (sometimes years) to scout and wait for an opening to make a run, now it's just months (sometimes a few weeks).
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| | | | Re: Better in the old days < Reply # 28 on 7/23/2020 5:02 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by mookster In the eleven years I've been exploring, the 'scene' or 'community' has evolved into something totally unrecognisable, in that the sense of community has all but vanished yet the 'scene' is filled with more people than ever before. Instagram and Youtube have done a real disservice to what used to be a fairly well kept secret, certainly nothing, or comparatively little, is kept secret in the same way it used to be thanks to the sheer quantity of morons and level of exposure places get on those channels nowadays. A lot of the great places of yesteryear have gone, but there is still plenty out there to see now, especially if you don't follow the herd of social media sheep to the latest 'flavour of the month' spot and do your own thing with your own people. Just don't set your sights on finding an untouched time capsule asylum as, at least in the UK, any such newly closed hospital or asylum is stripped bare within a matter of weeks by contractors. Those sort of places don't exist any more but times changes and people are still discovering new things to do and places to go. To all the people who have just recently gotten into it - were there some amazing places around in the 'old' days? Yes. Are there still incredible places to explore now? Also yes. Just go out and find them.
| Pretty much sums it up. Your excellent post on the bomb proof records bunker is proof enough. Now as far as the "sheer quantity of morons" and instagrunt and youtubz crap, I will only add that lack of imagination and sheer laziness has contributed as much if not more. Newbs unwilling to search out locations and "explore" wanting location handouts, trying to be the next Internet video sensation, you're correct I wouldn't let most of these idiots pick up my dog's yard let alone give them information I worked for and they could find for themselves. I have to get in my lick for the DB. You guys should really add some of these locations (like the bomb proof records bunker) to the DB, its not going to get it vandalized or graffitied up any more than posting it in a thread does. Then the new guys as well as the lazy explorers could use it as a resource, I know I know I am an old fart so sue me! p.s. why doesn't anyone explore active/live locations anymore, just chicken or has DHS got you finger prints on file or something ???
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