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Xiketic
Location: Bay Area, CA/ATL, GA Total Likes: 82 likes
| | | East Bay Mystery Walls < on 9/19/2018 5:55 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Anyone explore the east bay mystery walls? I don't see mention of it on here. I find mention of spirals and circles of walls, as well as fort-like structures. The locations of most of these walls are kept secret because of fears of vandals. I found this website of the walls mapped. Not sure if this is considered urbex or not but it seems pretty cool and definitely is exploring.
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| Wei
Location: Los Angeles, CA Gender: Male Total Likes: 97 likes
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| | | Re: East Bay Mystery Walls < Reply # 5 on 9/28/2018 2:59 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | After some quick research, it looks like the origins of the walls are still disputed, as no one has really given them much thought to be considered worthy of serious archaeological study. Early 20th century scholars theorized they might be of prehistoric or Mongolian origin, but recent lichen tests suggest they were built in the early-to-mid 1800s. My personal favorite theory is this: "The Spanish settlers in the area reported that the walls were already there when they arrived, and when they asked the local Ohlone American Indians, they said the same thing." - Atlas Obscura However, from all the research I've done, the only evidence of this theory comes from this line in a KQED article: "In published writings through the early 1920s, [US Mint clerk Harold] French never failed to describe the walls as "prehistoric" or "ancient." But beyond the walls' mere presence, the only evidence he ever cited was the testimony of unnamed old-timers who, he said, had told him that the walls had been a puzzle to both Native Americans and early settlers alike." - KQED Still, it's fun to think that even the Ohlone had no idea where the hell these walls came from! Other Research: Newser: http://www.newser....e-to-confound.html Mercury News: https://www.mercur...t-so-off-the-wall/
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| Clostridium
Location: SF Bay Area Gender: Male Total Likes: 82 likes
We'll see the city's ripped backsides
| | | Re: East Bay Mystery Walls < Reply # 15 on 10/15/2018 6:38 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | I've never got the idea of some complex purpose for the walls. There are stories of complicated spirals and going up to Mount Diablo, the Sutter Buttes and Mount Shasta, but I've seen nothing remotely like that on satellite. Even if true (possible if they were destroyed)the size and scale of this hypothetical civilization would be more complex than anything seen in North America, including the Chaco Culture in the Southwest and the Mississippian Cultures in the South, some of which were immediately pre-European contact. There doesn't seem to be any evidence of this type of civilization in California, even closer to Mesoamerica. That's not to say the pre-contact Native groups of California are not a fascinating subject that has been sadly neglected. As for the early Chinese explorer theory, I need to point out that the walls would still require a large number of people building them, certainly far more than even a fleet could provide. Spanish/Mexican/Chinese/Anglo ranch/boundary work from the 1800-1900s seems quite possible, due to the massive amount of ecological changes that they have done during and immediately after the Gold Rush (channeling the Sacramento Delta, burying most of San Francisco Bay). New England is filled with stone walls that seem to have no purpose but to serve as an organized pile to dispose of debris in fields, and I think the Mystery Walls could be quite similar. The walls around Telegraph City and Gold Country are definitely ranch related and not very interesting. I am not convinced the walls around Mount Diablo are not natural (though some like China Wall are pretty impressive). There are ones that people claim as the Mystery Walls deep in Ed Levin and Mission Peak, but the I've found no evidence of them in Tilden.
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| Xiketic
Location: Bay Area, CA/ATL, GA Total Likes: 82 likes
| | | Re: East Bay Mystery Walls < Reply # 17 on 10/16/2018 1:42 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by 2Xplorations Its hard to believe that somebody cant tell the difference in a bag of Sakrete and a stone.
For those that reality matters to, municipal workers, conservationists, ranchers etc toss un-hydrated bags of ready mto mix concrete out to stop erosion or build a base for a retaining wall. Lazy man temporary technique, the stuff never really gets mixed properly by the rain. I guess its all the same to some people, Mongolians invented Sakrete Im pretty sure.
| I don't mean to be rude here. You are a much more senior member of the community and your work in exploring is excellent. But as a senior member of the community, shouldn't your job to be to educate rookies like myself? Your comments have been exceptionally ill-tempered. I now recognize that the images I posted are bags of cement. I was excited to find something new and posted it in haste. However, there ARE other walls around. I have done some additional research and found the history of some specific walls near me (Chinese laborers). Again, I do not mean to be rude to a senior member of the community, but I do plan to photograph actual walls and your comments seem to be personally attacking the rest of us.
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