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Leopard18
Location: Boston, MA Gender: Male Total Likes: 52 likes
| | | Re: Tips for requesting permission < Reply # 1 on 10/6/2015 4:02 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | As always, success is not a guarantee. I am in the process of trying to arrange a string of legal explores myself. Networking is everything, ask around within your friends, you'd be surprised who has connections to what. If you have any friends that are city officials, see if they can check on ownership and get you email addresses and phone numbers. I have had success with asking a friend/member of the fire department, emailing journalists who wrote articles, and hours of research looking for details that could lead to one of such sources. The letter to the actual owner is a lot harder. If you're young enough, stories about college projects and research work. Generally it's best if you can find a mutual friend with someone who manages the site, cause then you have someone to vouch for you, but that can be really hard. Check if any of your friends are involved with construction and what they know. If all else fails, I find that (minus cameras and motion detectors) companies get careless about locking up and it makes it easier to get in. hope that helps.
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| DJ Craig Moderator
Location: Johnson City, TN Gender: Male Total Likes: 374 likes
Break the Silence
| | | | | Re: Tips for requesting permission < Reply # 4 on 10/7/2015 12:54 AM > | Reply with Quote
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| "You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose. You're on your own. And you know what you know. And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go..." -Dr. Suess |
| Peptic Ulcer
Location: Katy, TX Gender: Male Total Likes: 839 likes
"Isn't it fun - being bad?"
| | | | Re: Tips for requesting permission < Reply # 9 on 10/7/2015 8:11 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Since my last post I've been thinking about this more and more (or obsessing - take your pick). The idea occurred to me that posing as a journalist is probably your best bet bet at social engineering. Most of the people I have met who own these places have money and a big ego. Posing as an independent journalist from UEM (Urban Exploration Magazine) could get you in the door. Technically its true because they've called for submissions from UER's and you ARE an independent contractor. If the person decides to look it up they'll find a legit site devoted to urban exploration and old sites. Print up some business cards with the name of some photographic company (Peptic's Professional Photos!) with a bullshit PO box for the address. When you make your initial call it should go something like this: "Hello Mr. Whatshisnuts my name is Peptic Ulcer with Peptic's Professional Photos. I'm an independent contractor with Urban Exploration Magazine and would like to set up an interview to discuss The Milford Dildo Factory. When would be a good time next week to come by?" Questions may ensue but keep it brief, to the point and on topic. Tell him that you will want to discuss the history of the building, how they acquired it, its current state and what future plans they may have. DO NOT ASK TO VISIT OR TAKE PICTURES (See below) Make sure he is given a chance to bring up any information he may want to know (this puts him at ease and lets you be prepared in case you get there and he starts asking questions you arent ready for). Summarize the meeting by going over everything once again, repeating what you want, what he wants and the time, date and place. Once you're there have at least a dozen questions ready (this is especially easy if you have done some research). Keep him talking - the last thing you want is for him to start asking YOU questions. Keep this about him - you're ego gets satisfied when you get an explore. Things like, "Wow thats great! Tell me more about that!" or "Can you elaborate on that a bit more?". This should work well if they complain about "those pesky kids and their meddling dog!". When its all over, tell him you think you have every thing you need then ask him if you guys can head over to take some pictures of the place. At this point he should be emotionally invested and more willing to allow access. If he says no look confused and disappointed and tell him that you need pictures for the story or they wont print it. None of this is a sure thing as I just thought about it, but I can say that when I have done similar things in sales it works like a charm. The key it would seem is to be prepared, act confident and know your shit. Remember stroking his ego gets you want you want. It may feel slimy but you're gonna need a shower after the explore anyway!
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