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 Loki
  
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Gender: Male
 |  | Re: Need advice on getting around lots of security.
<Reply # 20 on 1/3/2011 11:50 PM >
|  | | | If you need to ask for advice on UER you probably don't have enough experience to tackle this kind of security. Whatever is in there isn't worth getting arrested for.
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cinemetog
Location: Huntsville
Gender: Male
| | Re: Need advice on getting around lots of security.
<Reply # 21 on 1/3/2011 11:52 PM >
| | | | Posted by ZenCanadian
And this is what makes most security guards/bouncers dicks. Blocking an exit to start a fight is just moronic.
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Again depending on where you are, this is also illegal. If you are in this position, I recommend recording it on video.
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vov35
Location: Maryland
Gender: Male
| | Re: Need advice on getting around lots of security.
<Reply # 22 on 1/4/2011 1:23 AM >
| | | | Posted by maester
Go to 4chan and ask /b for some backup 
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it's /b/ and BLACKup. get it right.
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TheWolfman269
Location: Nashville, Tennessee
Gender: Male
If it looks like a wolf, acts like a wolf, and howls like a wolf, it's probably an asshole.
| |  | Re: Need advice on getting around lots of security.
<Reply # 23 on 1/4/2011 3:15 AM >
| | | | Posted by ZenCanadian
And this is what makes most security guards/bouncers dicks. Blocking an exit to start a fight is just moronic.
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I find it funny that all guards and bouncers are considered dicks. It's like some kind of profession racism. Jobism.
In my years as a bouncer, I never started a fight. I finished plenty but never started one. All you had to do was leave when asked and nine times out of ten, we will give you a pass at the door to get in another night for free. But instead folks wanna fight and then they end up smacked around and maybe arrested.
And as a security guard, if you'll just talk to me, you'll normally be free to go. But if you run and make me run and I catch you and you get caught, you get what you get. And if your a smartass and run your mouth and give me a reason to want to fight, then we're going to have one. And damn right I'm going to be a dick if you act like one. Most of the time, I just wanna go back to sleep, reading comics, or playing X-box. So if you make enough noise to make me justify getting up and actually coming after you, and then actually letting me catch you, and you don't just talk to me, then it's your own fault.
As another well known member of this board said to me recently, "I feel like if authority is close enough to touch that I suck anyway." ;)
"I've got military training, a giant crowbar, and I've already been shot. What can really stop me?" - Myself |
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ZenCanadian
Location: High Park, Toronto
Gender: Male
| | Re: Need advice on getting around lots of security.
<Reply # 24 on 1/4/2011 3:28 AM >
| | | | Hey Wolf,
You are the one that "Like the places I worked for in Tennessee, we couldn't put hands on anyone or detain them unless they put hands on us first. If you touched us, it was game on. Course the normal way around this was just to keep moving in front of them and blocking the exit until they tried to move us.... Or we just did it anyway and when we talked to the police said they touched us first." Are you back tracking now? As well, I said most are dicks, not all, I know a few good ones, but have also had to take care of some real twits as well.
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TheWolfman269
Location: Nashville, Tennessee
Gender: Male
If it looks like a wolf, acts like a wolf, and howls like a wolf, it's probably an asshole.
| | | Re: Need advice on getting around lots of security.
<Reply # 25 on 1/4/2011 3:35 AM >
| | | | Posted by ZenCanadian
Hey Wolf,
You are the one that "Like the places I worked for in Tennessee, we couldn't put hands on anyone or detain them unless they put hands on us first. If you touched us, it was game on. Course the normal way around this was just to keep moving in front of them and blocking the exit until they tried to move us.... Or we just did it anyway and when we talked to the police said they touched us first." Are you back tracking now? As well, I said most are dicks, not all, I know a few good ones, but have also had to take care of some real twits as well.
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Oh I'm not backtracking. I've done both of examples of what I have thrown out there. When I blocked the exit, it was because I managed to catch them when I was between them and the exit and they wanted to run their dicksuckers and act all bad and try to just push past me. Had they just talked to me, they would have been free to go. Less paperwork for me. And the ones where I just did it anyway, again, want to act like a dick and act like a big boy? I'm not just gonna stand there and let you talk shit or wait for you to haul off and hit me first. Pre-emptive strike and I'll adjust it on the paperwork later.
Bottom line, either avoid us outright or if you do get caught, just talk to us about it. Most times we aren't getting paid enough to start anything and would much rather just escort you to the exit and then go back to sleep. But if you decide to be disrespectful, just sayin...
"I've got military training, a giant crowbar, and I've already been shot. What can really stop me?" - Myself |
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splumer
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Gender: Male
| | Re: Need advice on getting around lots of security.
<Reply # 26 on 1/4/2011 2:15 PM >
| | | | Posted by Therrin
But I did like the flat tire/fire idea. (the flat tire one, being by far the better of the two, as there would be far less repercussion.)
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It would be a big help if the owner of said tire was young, female, and in possession of tight and/or low-cut clothes.
“We are not going to have the kind of cooperation we need if everyone insists on their own narrow version of reality. … the great divide in the world today … is between people who have the courage to listen and those who are convinced that they already know it all.”
-Madeline Albright |
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TheWolfman269
Location: Nashville, Tennessee
Gender: Male
If it looks like a wolf, acts like a wolf, and howls like a wolf, it's probably an asshole.
| | | Re: Need advice on getting around lots of security.
<Reply # 27 on 1/4/2011 6:25 PM >
| | | | Posted by splumer
It would be a big help if the owner of said tire was young, female, and in possession of tight and/or low-cut clothes.
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That's just all around help. Want a free meal? Don't want to wait in line? Catching a ride when your car is broke down? Need help moving a car by hand?
All of these and more can be yours if you have an attractive female friend with tight clothes and a low cut top. "Excuse me, Mr strong man, I seem to need a hand with this." Look how often it worked for them Duke boys. ;)
"I've got military training, a giant crowbar, and I've already been shot. What can really stop me?" - Myself |
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MindHacker
Location: Suburbs of DC
Gender: Male
If you spot a terrorist arrow, pin it to the wall with your shoulder.
| | Re: Need advice on getting around lots of security.
<Reply # 28 on 1/5/2011 2:57 AM >
| | | | Posted by Karamar
Just join their scientology group, or act like your one...
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The only people Scientologists treat with more suspicion than outsiders is their own people.
They are really serious about security. If you read up on "Gold Base" they don't f(ck around. Or rather, they do f)ck around, but with motorcycles, ground sensors, and 45caliber pistols.
They are also super-paranoid. Some people I know well snuck into one of their (public, non-vip) events, and within 15 minutes overheard radio chatter about outsiders; they ended up GTing the FO asap. So if you do get caught, expect an interrogation, and don't expect them to believe you're just a photographer. They will assume that you have ill intent, especially because they have taken so much abuse the last few years.
And they always call the cops on everyone. Even after the cops say "those protesters aren't doing anything illegal, stop calling us" they keep calling the cops.
So, um, expect it to be alarmed, expect cameras on the beach, expect the police to be called, and don't get caught! Let us know how it goes.
[last edit 1/5/2011 3:01 AM by MindHacker - edited 1 times]
"That's just my opinion. I would, however, advocate for explosive breaching, since speed and looking cool are both concerns in my job."-Wilkinshire |
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Karamar
Location: Shreveport, LA
Gender: Male
Wait...... What?
| | Re: Need advice on getting around lots of security.
<Reply # 29 on 1/12/2011 3:46 AM >
| | | | Posted by MindHacker
The only people Scientologists treat with more suspicion than outsiders is their own people.
They are really serious about security. If you read up on "Gold Base" they don't f(ck around. Or rather, they do f)ck around, but with motorcycles, ground sensors, and 45caliber pistols.
They are also super-paranoid. Some people I know well snuck into one of their (public, non-vip) events, and within 15 minutes overheard radio chatter about outsiders; they ended up GTing the FO asap. So if you do get caught, expect an interrogation, and don't expect them to believe you're just a photographer. They will assume that you have ill intent, especially because they have taken so much abuse the last few years.
And they always call the cops on everyone. Even after the cops say "those protesters aren't doing anything illegal, stop calling us" they keep calling the cops.
So, um, expect it to be alarmed, expect cameras on the beach, expect the police to be called, and don't get caught! Let us know how it goes.
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I think an infiltration is coming up in my future. But seriously these people are nuts and makes me want to infiltrate their buildings the more I read about them. Think I can go in saying I'm Tom Cruise's brother (some of the Marines I work with told me I looked like Tom Cruise I know I'm short but damn didn't think I was that short).
And finally Aerospace Nuclear, I think maybe you can come from the north along the water line, looked like there was a slight down slope to the water and do it in the afternoon so that the sun is shining on that hotel entrance and might hinder the guards sight of you on the stairs. Also don't park in the covered parking spots right in front of the apartment.
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