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<Reply # 20 on 11/7/2011 4:27 AM >
|  | | | I've attempted that crane's little brother (made by the same company too), the cross beams were the width of my thigh. It's too difficult to do stealthily or quickly, you'll have to grab on to the beam above you with both hands and then swing up and over; repeat this 50 times and if you're spotted no way you can get back down before security gets to you.
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<Reply # 22 on 12/9/2011 12:58 PM >
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look at that sea of urban sprawl in the distance.... *shudder*
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one could make a pretty depressing pano from this position.
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<Reply # 23 on 12/20/2011 5:02 PM >
|  | | | Posted by unlisted
I would not risk it. That park you speak of has 24 hour security on site at all times, (also has armed response) and the local police have a helicopter which patrols the park area regularly for them as well. There is also motion alarms scattered throughout the park, on the grounds and around the fence perimeter. Oh, and there are parking lot cameras and internal park cameras with motion alarms- and a 24 hour monitoring centre.
All in all, probably a bad idea, there are more than enough other cranes in the region which would be less high risk. And yes, the "park" would throw the book at you as much as they could.
So, if you do it, and don't get arrested, you must post pics. Otherwise, read about you in the local paper soon enough.
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I can't tell you how many times I've been told stuff like this about a location, and then gone to find out for myself and it was all bullshit. People very often dramatically exaggerate security at the places we go. Don't beleive anyone, ever; find out for yourself. BE CAREFUL...do multiple scouting trips, keep an eye out for cameras and alarms, do your homework and know when to abort...but don't let someone's hearsay lecture about the security scare you away.
I highly doubt there are chopper patrols. This is WAY too expensive for theme park security. Also, motion detectors are rarely used outdoors for alarms because they are constantly triggered by animals, and falling leaves and wind. If they are used outdoors, they get ignored after the tenth false alarm of the season.
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<Reply # 24 on 12/20/2011 5:05 PM >
| | | | Is that red crane in the picture what you're talking about? Those kinds suck to climb. They have no ladder, so you have to climb the structure itself, and there is no cab or platform at the top like on a vertical crane.
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<Reply # 25 on 12/20/2011 5:13 PM >
| | | | Posted by DJ Craig
Is that red crane in the picture what you're talking about? Those kinds suck to climb. They have no ladder, so you have to climb the structure itself, and there is no cab or platform at the top like on a vertical crane.
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I've attempted a smaller version of the same crane.
The smallest crossbeams were the width of my thigh, almost impossible to do stealthily. Slings or dynamic line might have made it easier.
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<Reply # 26 on 12/20/2011 6:25 PM >
| | | | Posted by DJ Craig
I can't tell you how many times I've been told stuff like this about a location, and then gone to find out for myself and it was all bullshit. People very often dramatically exaggerate security at the places we go. Don't beleive anyone, ever; find out for yourself. BE CAREFUL...do multiple scouting trips, keep an eye out for cameras and alarms, do your homework and know when to abort...but don't let someone's hearsay lecture about the security scare you away.
I highly doubt there are chopper patrols. This is WAY too expensive for theme park security. Also, motion detectors are rarely used outdoors for alarms because they are constantly triggered by animals, and falling leaves and wind. If they are used outdoors, they get ignored after the tenth false alarm of the season.
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The local police where the park is located have a helicopter and the park is one of their main fly routes. The park gets this "service" for free since the park allows the police to use the grounds for training exercises a few times a year. (and a few other MOU's)
Many cameras at that park, with motion alarms. Even more where the construction is. Pretty easy not to ignore a live camera feed... Also, the main security building and the main employee access gate (which is staffed by security 24/7) are literally on either side of this construction.
Lots of nice, anti climb 6-8 foot high fencing surrounding the perimeter of this construction area, and it is also lit up pretty well with lighting.
And finally no, I am not talking out of my ass.. I do know some things about this place. Lets just say I found out about most of this the hard way a while back..
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<Reply # 27 on 12/20/2011 6:41 PM >
| | | | Posted by unlisted
The local police where the park is located have a helicopter and the park is one of their main fly routes. The park gets this "service" for free since the park allows the police to use the grounds for training exercises a few times a year. (and a few other MOU's)
Many cameras at that park, with motion alarms. Even more where the construction is. Pretty easy not to ignore a live camera feed... Also, the main security building and the main employee access gate (which is staffed by security 24/7) are literally on either side of this construction.
Lots of nice, anti climb 6-8 foot high fencing surrounding the perimeter of this construction area, and it is also lit up pretty well with lighting.
And finally no, I am not talking out of my ass.. I do know some things about this place. Lets just say I found out about most of this the hard way a while back..
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I'm not even really saying you're wrong. My point was just to encourage the op to find out for himself, because, if you ask the right person, there is someone for absolutely any UE location who will tell you it's impossible, and all the reasons why. I can't tell you how many times I've been told by someone who had personal experience with a location that it was completely impossible, and then gone in myself anyway and found it to be really easy.
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<Reply # 28 on 12/21/2011 2:55 AM >
| | | | I've discussed this in PM with the OP, but that kind of crane offers no cover, and is difficult and takes a long time to climb, and if he was spotted, there's no way, save for a base chute, he would be able to get down and get away before security was all over him.
If the crane was just sitting by a lonely wind turbine or somewhere that wasn't incredibly visible it would be worth a go at it.
Not saying infiltrating the park and sneaking around wouldn't be fun or doable ... but that particular crane wouldn't be worth the risk, given difficulty of access and escape.
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<Reply # 29 on 12/21/2011 4:19 AM >
| | | | Posted by TheVicariousVadder
I've discussed this in PM with the OP, but that kind of crane offers no cover, and is difficult and takes a long time to climb, and if he was spotted, there's no way, save for a base chute, he would be able to get down and get away before security was all over him.
If the crane was just sitting by a lonely wind turbine or somewhere that wasn't incredibly visible it would be worth a go at it.
Not saying infiltrating the park and sneaking around wouldn't be fun or doable ... but that particular crane wouldn't be worth the risk, given difficulty of access and escape.
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Indeed. Go climb roller coasters! And/or that tower of terror thing...which is almost as tall as the crane!
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