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gibuu
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< on 1/12/2011 9:39 PM >
|  | | | I'm a freelance writer living just outside of Ottawa who has noticed UE suddenly creeping into the mainstream zeitgeist. I've done some UE years ago in Toronto, drains and ships on the waterfront mainly, and would love to know what folks are exploring in my new adopted home. I want to write a magazine piece about this and can offer some anonymity, if desired. Also, I'm a filmmaker with a full camera and editing rig. Anyone willing to talk with me? Or share some good links?
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gibuu
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<Reply # 2 on 1/13/2011 8:26 PM >
| | | | thanks for the link, it was illuminating reading. I understand why folks would not want to id themselves when there is potential for a) getting busted and b) giving away good spots. That being said, it's kind of interesting to hear that there isn't much of a community here. not sure if that's true?
And it's not surprising that while anything near the Hill would be uber cool to explore, spending some time in close quarters with unfriendly cops and spy agencies would not be.
Still, I'm not a cop or a spook. How can you believe this? Send me a personal note and you'll have my real email address. I'll send you back links to my filmmaking web site and a bunch of recent articles I've written.
And I'm willing to give anonymity to sites as well as individuals, within reason. I'll need to create some detail so readers will believe I didn't entirely fabricate this, but that can be done without easy ways to spot real people: age, race, generic education or employment statement. And describing locations for their type: abandoned building or underground tunnel, etc. It's all negotiable.
cheers,
mick
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| | Re: Ottawa Canada UE article
<Reply # 3 on 1/14/2011 12:14 AM >
| | | | Posted by gibuu
thanks for the link, it was illuminating reading. I understand why folks would not want to id themselves when there is potential for a) getting busted and b) giving away good spots. That being said, it's kind of interesting to hear that there isn't much of a community here. not sure if that's true?
And it's not surprising that while anything near the Hill would be uber cool to explore, spending some time in close quarters with unfriendly cops and spy agencies would not be.
Still, I'm not a cop or a spook. How can you believe this? Send me a personal note and you'll have my real email address. I'll send you back links to my filmmaking web site and a bunch of recent articles I've written.
And I'm willing to give anonymity to sites as well as individuals, within reason. I'll need to create some detail so readers will believe I didn't entirely fabricate this, but that can be done without easy ways to spot real people: age, race, generic education or employment statement. And describing locations for their type: abandoned building or underground tunnel, etc. It's all negotiable.
cheers,
mick
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| |  | Re: Ottawa Canada UE article
<Reply # 4 on 1/14/2011 5:14 AM >
| | | | I've yet to see anything good come out of Ottawa via uer.
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<Reply # 5 on 1/14/2011 2:28 PM >
| | | | Posted by HI-LITE
I've yet to see anything good come out of Ottawa via uer.
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Or hockey.
Blah Blah Blah. Shut up and open the damn door.
"It's ok Officer, I watch a lot of cop shows on tv, so i am practically one of you guys." - sadly, that didn't work.
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gibuu
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<Reply # 6 on 1/14/2011 4:15 PM >
| | | | to ExplorerLoki: paranoid narcissist! do you really think cops would troll online for a potential trespassing charge?
that being said, sincere best wishes to your countrymen in the Brisbane area.
And here's a question following that logic stream: have UE folk ever alerted authorities to impending danger or disasters? You guys see stuff that inspectors probably don't. Anybody ever heard of a tale of an anonymous call or note being sent? That prevented a worse situation from happening?
I ask that question in mind of a piece on computer viruses and hacking I researched years ago for a tv show called Hi-Tech Culture. This one hacker I found said he enjoyed breaking through bank security systems for the challenge. He said several times he'd find the schematics for the banks security systems - alarms and motion sensors and whatnot - and would send it to the bank computer security folks to tease them. He said he'd even tell them where the hole in their system was that he used to get in. He said he was surprised that the banks just ignored him, not even patching the holes he shown them. haven't thought about him in years. Wonder if he went into bank robbery...
So what would happen if say a UE person found a dead body? or has it happened?
cheers,
mick
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| | | Re: Ottawa Canada UE article
<Reply # 7 on 1/14/2011 5:51 PM >
| | | | One thing you'll learn Gibuu about bring a writer is knowing when a potential interview has gone down the pisser because people have rejected your offer to talk. Is this your first time you've been rejected?
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Jonno23
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<Reply # 8 on 1/14/2011 6:46 PM >
| | | | Gibuu, in answer to the first question, yes and no. In the course of an investigation for say, felony theft (from scrapping) or looking into a meth lab or other such drug operation (which are often found in abandonments, I've seen a few myself), or even yes, finding a body in an abandonment (I havent, but others here have. Its called the search function), cops may use the internet to find information on the building. Now, say there were a site that showed clear, recent evidence of trespass into those same buildings? If you were a cop that was trying to find someone that stole thousands of dollars of materials, and caused structural damage to that building, wouldn't you be interested in talking to this person who was there and has now provided you evidence of such? And hey, if they don't give you any info, you have the trespass charge to fall back on. This is only 1 example of the things that could happen.
And like I said, yeah, people have found bodies. search the forums to find a few threads. Seems to me that every time it has come up here or on other sites, the finder called the cops. The thread always devolves into "Nice job" and, "I would have left it there for cool pictures!" Take what you read on the internet with a grain of salt.
So glad to hear that you are writing another article on our hobby though. It's especially neat that 80% of people that read those say "That's stupid. Who goes in abandoned buildings?" 12% say "Cool, but I wouldn't do that." The other 12% are split between "Its cool that our hobby gets this kind of exposure" and "Dammit, he's bring exposure to my hobby."
But that's just the ones who read it. Seems to me that most people out there have no interest what so ever in this.
My .02
jonno
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Blah Blah Blah. Shut up and open the damn door.
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<Reply # 9 on 1/14/2011 8:06 PM >
| | | | Posted by HI-LITE
I've yet to see anything good come out of Ottawa via uer.
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+1
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<Reply # 10 on 1/14/2011 11:51 PM >
| | | | Posted by Jonno23
So glad to hear that you are writing another article on our hobby though. It's especially neat that 80% of people that read those say "That's stupid. Who goes in abandoned buildings?" 12% say "Cool, but I wouldn't do that." The other 12% are split between "Its cool that our hobby gets this kind of exposure" and "Dammit, he's bring exposure to my hobby."
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...which adds up to 104%.
Oh good, my slow clap processor made it into this thing.
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<Reply # 11 on 1/15/2011 12:37 AM >
|  | | | Posted by gibuu
suddenly creeping
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that au...artistic language really foreshadowed on the final outcome of nobody wanting to provide you with info where you're not competent enough to do research.
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<Reply # 12 on 1/15/2011 5:31 AM >
| | | | time to get off the news bandwagon Gibuu, just because other people are writing about exploring doesnt mean everyone has to. start a trend...dont follow one. (i personally like to follow because its easier, kinda like that chick I pay 5 bucks to have a good time)
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<Reply # 13 on 1/15/2011 10:55 AM >
| | | | Posted by gibuu
to ExplorerLoki: paranoid narcissist! do you really think cops would troll online for a potential trespassing charge?
that being said, sincere best wishes to your countrymen in the Brisbane area.
And here's a question following that logic stream: have UE folk ever alerted authorities to impending danger or disasters? You guys see stuff that inspectors probably don't. Anybody ever heard of a tale of an anonymous call or note being sent? That prevented a worse situation from happening?
I ask that question in mind of a piece on computer viruses and hacking I researched years ago for a tv show called Hi-Tech Culture. This one hacker I found said he enjoyed breaking through bank security systems for the challenge. He said several times he'd find the schematics for the banks security systems - alarms and motion sensors and whatnot - and would send it to the bank computer security folks to tease them. He said he'd even tell them where the hole in their system was that he used to get in. He said he was surprised that the banks just ignored him, not even patching the holes he shown them. haven't thought about him in years. Wonder if he went into bank robbery...
So what would happen if say a UE person found a dead body? or has it happened?
cheers,
mick
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hatsumi
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<Reply # 14 on 1/15/2011 11:35 PM >
| | | | Posted by Canadavey
One thing you'll learn Gibuu about bring a writer is knowing when a potential interview has gone down the pisser because people have rejected your offer to talk. Is this your first time you've been rejected?
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lol.
most of the questions you are asking could be answered by spending more than 5 minutes on this website, and others, reading, rather than asking for the information. which i wager you stand close to no chance of getting.
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Jonno23
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<Reply # 15 on 1/16/2011 7:27 AM >
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...which adds up to 104%.
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Look at you with your fancy math skills. lol. My math just switched to daylight savings which gave me an extra 4%
Blah Blah Blah. Shut up and open the damn door.
"It's ok Officer, I watch a lot of cop shows on tv, so i am practically one of you guys." - sadly, that didn't work.
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<Reply # 16 on 1/17/2011 4:43 PM >
| | | | Posted by team haymaker
start a trend...dont follow one
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Ahahaha... gibuu, if you want to "provide anonymity," go away and find something else to write about.
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| | | Re: Ottawa Canada UE article
<Reply # 17 on 1/17/2011 5:21 PM >
| | | | Posted by gibuu
to ExplorerLoki: paranoid narcissist! do you really think cops would troll online for a potential trespassing charge?
that being said, sincere best wishes to your countrymen in the Brisbane area.
And here's a question following that logic stream: have UE folk ever alerted authorities to impending danger or disasters? You guys see stuff that inspectors probably don't. Anybody ever heard of a tale of an anonymous call or note being sent? That prevented a worse situation from happening?
I ask that question in mind of a piece on computer viruses and hacking I researched years ago for a tv show called Hi-Tech Culture. This one hacker I found said he enjoyed breaking through bank security systems for the challenge. He said several times he'd find the schematics for the banks security systems - alarms and motion sensors and whatnot - and would send it to the bank computer security folks to tease them. He said he'd even tell them where the hole in their system was that he used to get in. He said he was surprised that the banks just ignored him, not even patching the holes he shown them. haven't thought about him in years. Wonder if he went into bank robbery...
So what would happen if say a UE person found a dead body? or has it happened?
cheers,
mick
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It happens all the time. Off the top of my head, I've heard of explorers encountering scrappers inside abandonments and they've reported them.
Dead bodies are found by us too. I think it was last winter that some explorers were skating in an abandonment in Detroit when they found a man encased in ice. Only his leg was exposed.
I'd be happy to answer some of your questions, gibuu, but I'm not in Ottawa. Feel free to send me a private message or ask away here in this thread. 
Posted by arntzville
Ahahaha... gibuu, if you want to "provide anonymity," go away and find something else to write about.
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This is the rookie forum. If you want to make posts suggesting people "go away," you ought to do it somewhere other than the rookie forum. There are several pinned threads that explain why. Thanks.
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<Reply # 18 on 1/17/2011 11:32 PM >
| | | | Posted by gibuu
And here's a question following that logic stream: have UE folk ever alerted authorities to impending danger or disasters? You guys see stuff that inspectors probably don't. Anybody ever heard of a tale of an anonymous call or note being sent? That prevented a worse situation from happening?
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Not very often we'll come across anything important enough to warrant contact w/ the authorities, but it does happen. I once tipped off the city about a clogged sanitary sewer that was overflowing into a nearby creek - by the amount of toilet paper and condoms littering the shoreline, it looked to have been going on for several weeks. They were surprisingly quick in their response, and dispatched a crew to fix it the very next day.
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