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9mmPKR
 
location:
Independence Missouri
Gender: Male
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< on 4/6/2003 5:02 PM >
|  | | | well what are your ideas, ways to get access to locked doors? I work in a Hotel, and have built a tool that slips under the door and unlocks the door from the outside, without using a key, has anyone used something similiar? I'll work tonight, so i'll take some pics of it and pics of the door that its used on... does Hotel Key cards have any use, since I can get like thousands of them if needed...
Thanks, Mole
and this is prolly covered in an older post so if it is, post it up for me thanks...
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MacGyver
location:
St Paul, Minnesota
Gender: Male
"Someone go find me a paperclip, a D-cell battery, and a cheese grater"
| | Re: Gaining Access to Locked Doors...
<Reply # 1 on 4/6/2003 6:18 PM >
| | | | I've had to pop hingepins before, not always successfully. Sometimes you can spring the doorframe enough to release the security pin and then do the credit card trick variation on "secured" doors. picking or carefully jimmying the lock is rarely possible, but works if you can do it usually.
I wanna see this tool. sounds intersting. does it work on just one type of door, or is it a somewhat universal jobber?
Like a fiend with his dope / a drunkard his wine / a man will have lust for the lure of the mine
"If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent." |
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9mmPKR
location:
Independence Missouri
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Gaining Access to Locked Doors...
<Reply # 2 on 4/6/2003 6:51 PM >
| | | | well kinda one type of Door handle, i'll take pics tonight...
the door handle must be a hook style, its hard to explain but i will take pictures of them...
IG- 9mmPKR |
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Pyrodesiac
location:
NL, Canada
Gender: Male
TNT can make a dull day fun!
| |  | Re: Gaining Access to Locked Doors...
<Reply # 3 on 4/6/2003 11:12 PM >
| | | | The quick and easy way is to kick it in. Most people kick the center of the door and just put their foot through it. Kick as close to the doorknow/latch as possible, so the part of the doorframe holding the latch is ripped clean off, and the door flies open. Loud and destructive, but can come in handy.
Only turkies have left wings.
Happiness is a belt-fed weapon. |
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Jester
location:
Vancouver,B.C. Canada
Gender: Male
Always just out of sight...
| | | Re: Gaining Access to Locked Doors...
<Reply # 4 on 4/6/2003 11:41 PM >
| | | | You should never be kicking in a door...
The general philosophy of virtually all UE'ers is to not be destructive in our explorations. In my opinion, kicking in a door is completely unacceptable, if you're doing that, you're not an explorer...
It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf. |
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kowalski
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<Reply # 5 on 4/7/2003 12:42 AM >
| | | | our favoured technique:
If it is a one-way bolt (not dead; one where one side is curved/angled and the action is pliable);
If the door opens towards you;
If there's no security plate across the gap between door and frame;
And if there's a bit of room underneath the bolt plate on the frame:
You can wiggle a piece of metal (like a fork!) underneath the plate and push the bolt out a bit (enough to reveal its soft underbelly). Then you take an unraveled coat hanger and loop it over and around the bolt in the gap between door and frame. Pull hard and repeatedly on the hanger with one hand, and the door handle with the other, and pray to Saint Damasus and that ninja fellow.
This works because the action on the hanger will push along the inclined surface of the bolt and pop it out. You pull the door handle at the same time because the force on the hanger alone isn't always enough to actually pop the door open and there's nothing more frustrating than popping the bolt for a second only to have it fall back into place.
There's often a number of ways to weasel open 'soft' bolts, as long as you've got some space to play with. Good for most internal door locks in working environments, since generally they're not deadbolted.
Props to Pablo (II) for figuring this one out.
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Mochi
 
location:
West Jordan, Utah
Gender: Male
Stare deep into a kitty's nose.
| |  | Re: Gaining Access to Locked Doors...
<Reply # 6 on 4/7/2003 2:45 AM >
| | | | The last door I opened I popped with a single safety pin.
Then again, the door was a '70s-'80s era door with no inside bolt cover. Just slip the pin around and yank.
>_< Mochi, poof! Instant sea monkies!
JESUS SAVES!!!
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Phrozen Star
location:
Toronto, Ontario
Gender: Male
Slight Zombie Problem...
| | | Re: Gaining Access to Locked Doors...
<Reply # 7 on 4/7/2003 2:52 AM >
| | | | I tend to agree with Jester... I mean, you've got to remember, most UE'ers I've come across live by the rule "Take only pictures, leave only footprints". If you kick open a door, security might notice, if there is security at the site, but you are also destroying the door... that lets the elements in faster, which makes the building's interior deteriorate faster. Loud and destructive? yes. Handy? Not for a true Urb-Exer.
Phrozen
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Chud
Try a 211, you'll just get 187'd...
| | Re: Gaining Access to Locked Doors...
<Reply # 8 on 4/7/2003 4:06 PM >
| | | | Has anyone heard of something called an Allen key? I think it is for the same use as that fork/hanger trick...
I've always used a pocket knife for the same basic thing, with wonderful results.
Nobody will not agree with the Russians, ever on anything.
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MacGyver
location:
St Paul, Minnesota
Gender: Male
"Someone go find me a paperclip, a D-cell battery, and a cheese grater"
| | Re: Gaining Access to Locked Doors...
<Reply # 9 on 4/7/2003 6:17 PM >
| | | | allen keys are a type of wrench that consists of a hexagonal shaft with some kind of handle. The traditional type is bent like an L, with either end usable for different applications, but newer ones sometimes have a T handle instead.
oldskool allen wrench set
jackknife style set
T-handled allen wrench
As for opening doors, they could maybe used for slipping the latch like a credit card or other tool does, but are les than ideal. I do know that people have recommended them for making lockpicks, but that's something to stay away from again.
Like a fiend with his dope / a drunkard his wine / a man will have lust for the lure of the mine
"If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent." |
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konk
location:
Toronto ON
Gender: Male
| | Re: Gaining Access to Locked Doors...
<Reply # 10 on 4/7/2003 6:29 PM >
| | | | Excuse my ignorance in lock picking, but why is that something to stay away from? It doesn't damage the door or lock does it?
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MacGyver
location:
St Paul, Minnesota
Gender: Male
"Someone go find me a paperclip, a D-cell battery, and a cheese grater"
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<Reply # 11 on 4/7/2003 7:02 PM >
| | | | not if you do it right, but the chances of getting it to work for you quickly and effectively are so small that it isn't worth the risk of carrying the tools with you. Being caught trespassing is one thing, being caught trespassing with posession of B&E/burglary tools is a whole different story. I'd recommend thinking good and hard about if the risk is worth it for the unlikely success it might bring.
Like a fiend with his dope / a drunkard his wine / a man will have lust for the lure of the mine
"If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent." |
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ODIUM
location:
New York
Gender: Male
I do love it.
| | | | Re: Gaining Access to Locked Doors...
<Reply # 12 on 4/8/2003 12:35 AM >
| | | | Just buy a semi-decent set of lockpicks and download the MIT guide to lockpicking from Kazaa. It isn't too hard to learn how to pick locks, although actually picking a lock can take a while.
Kicking in doors is kinda bad, then if you get caught you can be pinned with a vandalism charge.
>Not a prom date< |
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MacGyver
location:
St Paul, Minnesota
Gender: Male
"Someone go find me a paperclip, a D-cell battery, and a cheese grater"
| | Re: Gaining Access to Locked Doors...
<Reply # 13 on 4/8/2003 2:53 AM >
| | | | about kicking in doors:
besides the consequences for being caught, when whoever owns the building that door is a part of sees what has been done, they will get pissed off and seal the place up tightly. Then you will not be able to return and other people won't be able to see it. kicking doors in isn't exploration. it's blatant vandalism and doesn't belong here.
as for lockpicking, I'd like to see you actually pick a real in-the-door lock in under 10 minutes. That takes a locksmith with more specialized toola than you are going to scare up. There are bad consequences for being caught trespassing with lockpicking tools. Probably worse than for being caught having kicked in a door. think about that.
Like a fiend with his dope / a drunkard his wine / a man will have lust for the lure of the mine
"If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent." |
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Jester
location:
Vancouver,B.C. Canada
Gender: Male
Always just out of sight...
| | | Re: Gaining Access to Locked Doors...
<Reply # 14 on 4/8/2003 3:38 AM >
| | | | My father, an old school explorer... He can pick locks, and he can do a typical padlock in 30 seconds, the high security ones take longer, but he can generally manage them in under 5 minutes. No joke. He's good... and I am...not 
LOL, I have tried and I suck...
It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf. |
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9mmPKR
location:
Independence Missouri
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Gaining Access to Locked Doors...
<Reply # 15 on 4/8/2003 6:03 AM >
| | | | ok i have pics of my tool, does anyone know of a Free webpage builder or whatever i can do to post these pics???
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Crossfire
 
location:
Kay-Dub
Gender: Male
Don't call it a comeback, I've been here for years.
| | | | | Re: Gaining Access to Locked Doors...
<Reply # 16 on 4/8/2003 11:58 AM >
| | | | The MIT Lockpicking guide is also available online...
http://www.lysator.liu.se/mit-guide/mit-guide.html
So, to paraphrase the indecipherable Mochi...
And now!
To explode!
TMC.
Disgruntled. |
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phantom
location:
The Desert
Gender: Male
Creeping in the shadows
| | | Re: Gaining Access to Locked Doors...
<Reply # 17 on 4/8/2003 2:30 PM >
| | | | That's just the adjective do describe Mochi.
-~phantom~-
shadowlurking |
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Pyrodesiac
location:
NL, Canada
Gender: Male
TNT can make a dull day fun!
| | | Re: Gaining Access to Locked Doors...
<Reply # 18 on 4/8/2003 3:07 PM >
| | | | I agree with you, kicking in doors is bad. But, it is a useful thing to know. I have no objection to having knowledge, however "bad" or "socially unacceptable" it is.
Only turkies have left wings.
Happiness is a belt-fed weapon. |
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phantom
location:
The Desert
Gender: Male
Creeping in the shadows
| | | Re: Gaining Access to Locked Doors...
<Reply # 19 on 4/8/2003 4:01 PM >
| | | | I'd only try it if I were trapped.
Maybe the other exception is a door in an already deteriorated area, but I doubt I'd find a locked door that's able to be kicked in.
-~phantom~-
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