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<Reply # 20 on 1/9/2009 8:36 AM >
|  | | | You are a prime example of why it is annoying when everyone says " these are greats" You actually start to believe it. It really is sad.
You are right though, my pictures are complete garbage compared to yours what was i thinking. My straight lines thought out compositions and correct exposures hold nothing to your amazing pictures. Please forgive me
Oh here is a shitty picture from the d2x
Like you said though sadly, it can't compete with yours. You must be a god
Oh and another
By the way telling you your shots are all crooked is constructive. They are pretty much all crooked, and mostly ignore rules of composition, so telling you that wasn't an insult. It was stating a fact. It is a situation where you should have said to yourself wow maybe i should work on that. Not, hey let me bitch and moan because someone pointed out the obvious and didn't sugarcoat it like every other ass kiss on this site.
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<Reply # 21 on 1/9/2009 8:38 AM >
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No it is not dull, It is a crooked shot with ridiculous distortion and the edges of the piano are cut off. It looks like someone said OH SWEET A PIANO LET ME SNAP A PICTURE REAL QUICK TO SHOW MY BROS! Then they got home and tried to save the picture with photoshop.
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<Reply # 23 on 1/9/2009 1:21 PM >
| | | | Wonky, no real subject matter, every bad editing technique ever created all on one thread, insulting Ryan who is technically one of the best photographers I know of, actually having the cheek to talk about photography after posting these photos.
my advice
1 - take up a new hobby, I would advice trying to learn to catch bullets between your teeth
2 - step away from photoshop
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<Reply # 24 on 1/9/2009 1:29 PM >
| | | | If you post in the critique section you should expect critiques and you shouldn't get upset if there are some negative comments. Using a flash makes a picture look flat and lifeless. I think so anyway. Also the angle that you shot with is the same on most of the pictures. You stood there and shot down on the subject when it would have been way more interesting if you got level with the subject or below it or what ever to make it more exciting. Also there are way too many pictures. Editing out blurry and uninteresting pictures would be helpful.
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<Reply # 25 on 1/9/2009 2:44 PM >
| | | | i love this thread.
tina, stick to car photos. at least those ones look realistic.
oh, and only post on car forums.
leave the gun. take the cannoli.
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<Reply # 26 on 1/9/2009 3:07 PM >
| | | | Posted by T-Staff
A critique is usually a detailed evaluation presenting a opinion of a work, with a possible solution
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1. crooked, turn down the saturation. you cut off the corners of the only subject in the picture
2. washed out, awkward angle (too steep)
3. sloppy composition, bad exposure. looks like you had a flash on a wire and held it from the bottom left corner of the photo, the bottom left against the wall is horribly over exposed and the saturation of this photo is still too much, it looks tacky and cartoon-y. goofy angle
4. weird angle, uneven exposure, saturation is a little more realistic in this.
5. theres bad shadows from your handheld flash, its color casted and the composition is not only very crooked and not square but you again cut off the only subject in the picture
6. i don't know what you did to this one but it looks tacky, the composition is not centered and it's crooked.
7. crooked crooked crooked. most of this picture is black and nothing and boring. it's also kind of a tacky idea if you ask me
8. super crooked, uneven exposure, but better than the above as it's semi-realistic looking.
9. same as 8 VERY crooking to the point it is distracting, "ok" exposure and you get a B on not making it look ridiculous.
10. wierd composition, washed out and over exposed
11. blurry, crooked
12. too saturated, you AGAIN cut off the only subject of the photo and its AGAIN super crooked.
13. SUPER CROOKED way too much contrast and again i don't understand the concept i think its silly.
14. i don't see how you can not see how crooked this one is. again with the off camera flash giving an awkward exposure.
15. there is a huge shadow on the left from the railing plus its crooked.
16. way crooked, way uneven. use a tripod
17. what the fuck
18. honestly this is the best photo of the set technically, but the subject is boring in my opinion.
19. no, too uneven, too crooked, boring
20. flash ruins it, super crooked.
21. the shadows created by your flash kill this picture along with the 45 degree angle it was taken at
22. alot of this picture is wasted space and the shadow again kills it
23. soft, crooked, decent exposure
24. soft, underexposed, weird vinetting
25. no
26. crooked, decent exposure, again a lot of boring space
27. haha no
28. super crooked, wrong exposure again the with the shadows created by the flash
29. i don't know what to say about this one, i just wouldn't show it in public.
30. crooked, wierd.
31. so much nothing in this picture, underexposed.
32. this picture is both underexposed and overexposed and the shadow is awful
33. what??
34. enough with the bad piano shots
35. halo-shadow cause of the flash, 65 degree angles are no-nos
36. eh, one of the better photos in this set, again a lot of nothing and it's obvious a flash was used
37. this was taken so close that the shadows are blown up in the background and way too noticable, the saturation looks like it was bumped up and it's (not as) crooked
38. the 45 degree angles need to stop, it strains the viewers eyes
39. too much nothing, too boring
40. hahaha i got nothing on this, just no
41. kind of bums me out you made this place look this bad. this photo is washed out cause of the flash and super crooked
42. huge shadow way too overexposed again CROOKED
43. too sharp, too saturated too contrast-y and too crooked.
44. this picture has a really bad blue colorcast, just because it was taken with a P+S and not a "DSLR" doesn't mean anything, i know a certain explorer you shot a point and shoot for a long long time and he still shot some of the best "UE" photos around with it
to sum this up:
-use/learn to use a tripod.
-don't go places at night
-don't use a flash
-look through that little window thing in the back of your camera before you push that button
-think "lines"
-don't take advice in a critique section like a little kid an get defensive
NOW
aside from this thread i took the opportunity to view some of your other photos on your flickr and on your myspace and they are all very similar to the tips i gave you above
you're model stuff is a little better but they still need a lot of work before you can call yourself a photographer in my opinion.
most are very crooked and poorly composed still, but the exposures are much better and the flash is less noticeable. the key to using a flash effectively is to not make it real apparent that a flash was fired.
i would also conclude that you are most likely a photo major or an aspiring/wannabe photo major based on the quality of your work and your attitude. i would be very careful and tread lightly as MOST photo majors i've come in to contact with are so caught up in the fact that they are photo majors and don't bother to focus on the basics such as composition and straight lights.
as for your attack on ryan...
i don't say this because ryan is a close friend but you are simply wrong. while i'm not going to say "ZOMG ryanXpromise is the king of asylum photography" i will tell you he is very good at what he does and is extremely knowledgeable. his compositions are usually air tight and his exposures are very well thought out, which is much more than anyone here can say about you.
anywaaaaay now that you've received your proper critique i hope you will cool your jets and stop being such an arrogant, ridiculous person
EDIT: i forgot to mention i'm looking at these on a calibrated monitor so don't pull that on me
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mANVIL
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<Reply # 27 on 1/9/2009 3:56 PM >
| | | | Posted by BigSamPeople who gives you shit are just confused due to the lack of peeling paint and lonely chairs.
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Actually there's like 5 or more chair shots and several peeling paint "Texture" shots as well.
I agree with most of what Jeff said. The vast majority of people will prefer straight photos while keeping lines and symmetry in mind during composition. Also try stepping back from your subject matter. That being said I know it is difficult to compose or focus interior shots in the dark. The post processing makes the images look unrealistic. It feels like you were just messing with levels and photoshop because the flash was washing everything out.
I actually think the best set I've ever seen you post was your first set from the power plant w/ Mike and Evan 2 years ago.
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<Reply # 28 on 1/9/2009 5:02 PM >
| | | | Tina,
I dig the umbrella shots, beyond that a little to processed for my liking. Also the angles, I think Ill cancel my date to night and see the chiropractor instead. I know you come from the automotive side of things like me, and even there the angles are played out.
I give this post a 3/5
-Evan
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<Reply # 29 on 1/9/2009 5:12 PM >
| | | | Posted by Jeff!
to sum this up:
-use/learn to use a tripod.
-don't go places at night
-don't use a flash
-look through that little window thing in the back of your camera before you push that button
-think "lines"
-don't take advice in a critique section like a little kid an get defensive
NOW
aside from this thread i took the opportunity to view some of your other photos on your flickr and on your myspace and they are all very similar to the tips i gave you above
you're model stuff is a little better but they still need a lot of work before you can call yourself a photographer in my opinion.
most are very crooked and poorly composed still, but the exposures are much better and the flash is less noticeable. the key to using a flash effectively is to not make it real apparent that a flash was fired.
i would also conclude that you are most likely a photo major or an aspiring/wannabe photo major based on the quality of your work and your attitude. i would be very careful and tread lightly as MOST photo majors i've come in to contact with are so caught up in the fact that they are photo majors and don't bother to focus on the basics such as composition and straight lights.
as for your attack on ryan...
i don't say this because ryan is a close friend but you are simply wrong. while i'm not going to say "ZOMG ryanXpromise is the king of asylum photography" i will tell you he is very good at what he does and is extremely knowledgeable. his compositions are usually air tight and his exposures are very well thought out, which is much more than anyone here can say about you.
anywaaaaay now that you've received your proper critique i hope you will cool your jets and stop being such an arrogant, ridiculous person
EDIT: i forgot to mention i'm looking at these on a calibrated monitor so don't pull that on me
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youre a close friend... of course you're gonna defend him. Thats not wrong, yall are friends.. it happens!
However, I got it. I broke the sacred rules of composition soooo everything I do is wrong or or... CROOKED. got it 
Sorry, but if I went around with a tripod... keeping things perfectly straight and never trying something new, i'd get tired of it and give up. Which you probably think I should, cause i'm a rule breaker and nothing looks right?
I thank you for your critique... but the only reason I understand it is because you were by the book. Something I had to look at years ago and never bothered to open again.
Rules are ment to be broken.
Posted by don_corleyone
i love this thread.
tina, stick to car photos. at least those ones look realistic.
oh, and only post on car forums.
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oh go drink your freakin SoCo
Posted by mANVIL
Actually there's like 5 or more chair shots and several peeling paint "Texture" shots as well.
I agree with most of what Jeff said. The vast majority of people will prefer straight photos while keeping lines and symmetry in mind during composition. Also try stepping back from your subject matter. That being said I know it is difficult to compose or focus interior shots in the dark. The post processing makes the images look unrealistic. It feels like you were just messing with levels and photoshop because the flash was washing everything out.
I actually think the best set I've ever seen you post was your first set from the power plant w/ Mike and Evan 2 years ago.
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yeah... oops on the chairs... even though one of them is like a mini chair, does that count as something different lol
I did get what he said on every single photo... CROOKED, even though on some I really seriously dont see it. Probably cause I dont carry around a level or the subject is actually somehow warped. :shrugs:
I will try stepping back once in a while... however sometimes you know theres no room to. The lens I believe most of these was shot with was a 12-24. The first piano shot I should of found a chair for if I was going to go for it like that. COuldnt quite get the corners in there.
Also now that you mention it. Have I even posted a set since the power plant?
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<Reply # 30 on 1/9/2009 5:35 PM >
| | | | Posted by ryan
You are a prime example of why it is annoying when everyone says " these are greats" You actually start to believe it. It really is sad.
You are right though, my pictures are complete garbage compared to yours what was i thinking. My straight lines thought out compositions and correct exposures hold nothing to your amazing pictures. Please forgive me
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Easy there, hotshot. You're not as good as you think either.
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When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.
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<Reply # 31 on 1/9/2009 5:37 PM >
| | | | Tooo many!
I have to say, many of these are very good, especially for using flash. As you try to work in more flashes I think it will get even better.
One thing to work on, though, is composition. Lot of these have boring composition, and a lot more are just tweaked. It's fine if the verticals arent vertical as long as it's on purpose...some of these just seem sloppy.
Definitely a lot of creativity here though...keep going!
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<Reply # 32 on 1/9/2009 5:39 PM >
| | | | #9 - OMG when I saw this pic I had deja vu!! It soooo reminds me one bunker A LOT.
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<Reply # 33 on 1/9/2009 5:48 PM >
| | | | That is a crazy collection good quality love it
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<Reply # 34 on 1/9/2009 5:50 PM >
| | | | Posted by desmet
Tooo many!
I have to say, many of these are very good, especially for using flash. As you try to work in more flashes I think it will get even better.
One thing to work on, though, is composition. Lot of these have boring composition, and a lot more are just tweaked. It's fine if the verticals arent vertical as long as it's on purpose...some of these just seem sloppy.
Definitely a lot of creativity here though...keep going!
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I can see what you mean by tweaked. I think it more so happens when everyone is just moving along and i'm trying to stand there and think so I just... shoot it. lol
I also think the 12-24 is something I still need to get used to.
btw I tried adding multiple flashes the other day... started looking like a abandoned portrait studio. lol I think I need to use more bare flashes... less diffusers. or look into different diffusers.
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<Reply # 35 on 1/9/2009 5:58 PM >
|  | | | I was going to post something but I didn't feel like critiquing 44 photos at the time, and after your reactions I'm glad I didn't bother.
Also, BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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Mandalorian Mayhem
| | | | Re: Some one might look... if they get flashed...
<Reply # 36 on 1/9/2009 6:02 PM >
| | | | Posted by T-Staff
btw I tried adding multiple flashes the other day... started looking like a abandoned portrait studio. lol I think I need to use more bare flashes... less diffusers. or look into different diffusers.
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maybe instead of diffusing off of an umbrella, try one of the plastic diffuser covers that goes immediately over the flash. Or try diffusing/reflecting the flash off of a white shirt or posterboard or something. You can use all sorts of materials to reflect and bounce light. I've often found myself lighting things on my desk by aiming a desk lamp at the white wall or off of a piece of paper.
What are you shooting with? You might have to set the WB manually to compensate for different diffusing methods.
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<Reply # 37 on 1/9/2009 6:25 PM >
| | | | I liked the photos, a little repetitive but that could be due to the amount of pics.
Most of the thread sounds like a bunch of catty girls.
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Jeff!
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<Reply # 38 on 1/9/2009 7:10 PM >
| | | | Posted by T-Staff
Rules are ment to be broken.
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good luck failing miserably as a photographer then
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desmet
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.
| | | | Re: Some one might look... if they get flashed...
<Reply # 39 on 1/9/2009 7:24 PM >
| | | | Posted by Jeff!
good luck failing miserably as a photographer then
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I actually missed the huge awesome discussion that was happening before I responded.
T-Staff - The rules of composition are something you should follow RIGIDLY and EXACTLY until you understand why they are the rules. Then you can break them, and break them for good reasons. Theres nothing wrong with breaking them but it's like you say...you "just shoot it". Thats not really how to do good photogaphy, ESPECIALLY architectural photography. The rules of composition are there to help you, not get in your way. Trust me. Shoot to the rules and once you internalize them and become great at them, THEN break them. It's like trying to drive a race car before you can drive a civic...you gotta learn the basics first.
You have a lot of raw creativity that can either be refined into something cool or you can be another mediocre photographer who never took it seriously enough to live up to your potential.
And srsly...critisizing Ryan makes your credibility mad suspect. Dude definitely knows how to shoot architecture.
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