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< on 3/21/2008 12:26 PM >
|  | | | Good morning, ladies and gentleman of the board.
I apologize if this is not the correct location to post such a question, but alas, I am a newbie, and will learn over time...right? I am sure I will. Anyways, my question is a simple one:
How exactly do you exploring veterans go about obtaining information on locations long abandoned? I only ask because although I have done my share of exploring, the majority of the information concerning a find comes from simple deduction, my eyes roam over the remaining objects in a given location, and I walk away unfulfilled.
One location in particular, close to the Air National Guard, the 128th? in South Milwaukee, WI has my ire currently. If a house is abandoned, and the surrounding area be in development, is the prior address of the location still valid?
I know I could probably attempt a search at City Hall, but I didn't know if there exist any online resources...rather I didn't know exactly how you guys go about procuring such information by your lonesomes.
Thank you kindly.
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MutantMandias
    
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<Reply # 1 on 3/21/2008 12:36 PM >
| | | | Well, I'm not sure how this thread will go, but I'm wondering why, if you're so interested, you haven't really tried anything more than letting your "eyes roam over the remaining objects."
The point of exploring is exploring, and finding things that are interesting to you. Some people really get off on the research part, and that is a whole other branch and method of exploring. Even the figuring out how to figure things out is an explore.
So, what I'm saying is (and this applies to everything in life), if you want to know, then try to figure it out. You will fail and you will succeed. That's all good. It's much more valuable if you learn it yourself.
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Ram23
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<Reply # 2 on 3/21/2008 12:50 PM >
| | | | After a quick search, it looks like you have to pay to access real estate records online for Milwaukee County.
http://www.county....RecrdsInte9846.htm
However, it looks like if you go to find them in person it's free. Generally, addresses don't change due to development, so whatever number is on the house, and whichever street the front of the house faces should be the proper address.
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faustian pact
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<Reply # 3 on 3/21/2008 1:47 PM >
| | | | I appreciate the responses, and am quite aware that letting mine eyes roam over my surroundings is not appropriate research. I suppose that due to my being a bit new to this activity, I am not terribly learned, and subsequently come off sounding a bit...foolish? Oh, and to further elaborate, "letting mine eyes roam over my surroundings," actually requires a bit of shifting, and moving, and reading...haha, just to elaborate, right?
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<Reply # 4 on 3/21/2008 4:23 PM >
| | | | I've gone the research route and it can get tedious. Most of the places I found were due to word of mouth, public postings or media coverage, or just dumb luck.
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<Reply # 5 on 3/21/2008 5:28 PM >
| | | | I simply drive the back roads and try to take different roads as much as possible. this is how I've found almost all shit i've seen.
courthouse records just give you a owner, address and if the taxes are paid.
they dont tell you if the place has been empty for 20 years or if the paint is falling off the walls.
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MutantMandias
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<Reply # 6 on 3/21/2008 5:54 PM >
| | | | I think the question was more related to "How do I find out things about a place that I have found" rather than "How do I find places?"
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<Reply # 7 on 3/21/2008 6:02 PM >
| | | | www.google.com
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<Reply # 8 on 3/21/2008 8:58 PM >
| | | | Posted by u25680
I simply drive the back roads and try to take different roads as much as possible. this is how I've found almost all shit i've seen.
courthouse records just give you a owner, address and if the taxes are paid.
they dont tell you if the place has been empty for 20 years or if the paint is falling off the walls. |
And that's where the exploration and further research (aka the fun part) comes in. 
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tholcomb
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<Reply # 9 on 3/21/2008 11:24 PM >
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QFT.
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<Reply # 10 on 3/22/2008 7:10 AM >
| | | | Why Does This Thread Smell Funny
Keying up at KJ4ZNR
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faustian pact
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<Reply # 11 on 3/22/2008 4:26 PM >
| | | | Perhaps because I haven't showered yet this morning? Just a guess... But seriously, yes, I am aware that there is a wonderful site called Google, and it is something that I utilize frequently.
That being said, typing in an address on Google tends to pull up sites such as Map Quest, whereas typing in "old, abandoned house on such and such a street," pulls up...well, not much.
As was stated previously, records providing information such as the payment of taxes, or the number of years spent by some family in a specific location are wonderful, but not enough, unfortunately.
When I enter a location that is obviously fire scarred, and this took place some indeterminate time ago, I don't exactly have the free time to spend in the Library, looking through old microfilms for hours on end in order to glean some relevant information; as enjoyable as that might be... Damn, I wish I had the time to do so...
I suppose I may have an unrealistic expectation as to the availability of information. A few of the galleries on this site have an absolute wealth of said information, yet these sites were far more interesting and with a richer history than some farm house somewhere.
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tholcomb
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<Reply # 12 on 3/22/2008 5:22 PM >
| | | | Really, you're not going to find much on a house unless it's historically significant.
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faustian pact
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<Reply # 13 on 3/23/2008 1:06 PM >
| | | | This is something I am becoming aware of over the course of this thread. I had hoped there existed some uber-secret information source...not really, I knew it was a long shot...
I guess in my explorations even the most mundane life can be interesting...
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MutantMandias
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<Reply # 14 on 3/23/2008 2:58 PM >
| | | | You're not cleared for that information.
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faustian pact
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<Reply # 15 on 3/23/2008 3:30 PM >
| | | | Haha, I thought not.
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IDChris
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<Reply # 16 on 3/24/2008 7:33 PM >
| | | | Now I see.
You find a place and want to know it's history.
For well-known commercial or institutional, there's Google or the historical society.
On houses, it's tougher, unless a prominent family lived there, or a local old crow happens to know something.
I've noticed on houses, if you go to the assessor's records, they at least give a date of construction and sometimes the date of a past remodel.
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faustian pact
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Milwaukee, WI
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What time is it?
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<Reply # 17 on 3/24/2008 7:59 PM >
| | | | That information, though commonly known to some, was not for me, and thus thank you. There is a certain location, well, a few locations, houses and old factories mostly, that exhibit a rather fanciful architectural design that I was curious about. For an example look up "Milwaukee Malleable and Grey Iron Works." I'm not saying that I am attempting an infiltration of this locale...cough cough...but it has an incredibly unique bricklaying style to it.
Also, if I enter a location and see blackened beams hanging from a partially collapsed ceiling, or strange stains on the walls, the history of a seemingly boring house can immediately be pertinent. I guess my imagination will be my ally when all else is exhausted...and that is how ghost stories begin, or something. haha.
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Sand
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Everything interesting is always behind a fence.
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<Reply # 18 on 3/25/2008 12:43 AM >
| | | | Posted by faustian pact
Good morning, ladies and gentleman of the board.
I apologize if this is not the correct location to post such a question, but alas, I am a newbie, and will learn over time...right? I am sure I will. Anyways, my question is a simple one:
How exactly do you exploring veterans go about obtaining information on locations long abandoned? I only ask because although I have done my share of exploring, the majority of the information concerning a find comes from simple deduction, my eyes roam over the remaining objects in a given location, and I walk away unfulfilled.
One location in particular, close to the Air National Guard, the 128th? in South Milwaukee, WI has my ire currently. If a house is abandoned, and the surrounding area be in development, is the prior address of the location still valid?
I know I could probably attempt a search at City Hall, but I didn't know if there exist any online resources...rather I didn't know exactly how you guys go about procuring such information by your lonesomes.
Thank you kindly.
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The internet is your friend. So are bums. Google is also a great aid. Local community forums that complain about "eyesores" is another. Just driving is great too. Note down places and google them.
What do you mean about the address? Address's won't change....abandoned or not, if it's recent; but yes, sometimes they reroute roads and call the new road the old road's name, so now 316 Spooner St is now half a mile away (or whatever). So just get some old maps from when the abandoned building was active. Flea markets and antique shops are good sources for old maps.
Or just google and search around for the building. It should be easy to find if it's abandoned and not on the main road anymore. Can't be too far, y'know!
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<Reply # 19 on 3/25/2008 3:41 AM >
| | | | [When I enter a location that is obviously fire scarred, and this took place some indeterminate time ago, I don't exactly have the free time to spend in the Library, looking through old microfilms for hours on end in order to glean some relevant information; as enjoyable as that might be... Damn, I wish I had the time to do so...
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Okay, you don't have to glean over information at the library or go over microfilms. Just do some calling. Knock on a neighbor's door or ask a local business that looks of the same age. Poeple will know about a fire. If they don't, well, I guess you could always ask the fire department. You have to dig to find info if you can't get it online. If you really want it, there are ways of getting it. No, there's not some magical way to find info on a building. Asking, interviewing, and researching are supposed to be fun if you want to know more about it, not a drag.
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