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|  | | | Here are a few things I thought might be useful for others who find themselves having to deal with fences on a regular basis. No security measure no matter how formidable it may seem is impenetrable and fences are no different. However I will only cover aspects of non destructive entry in this thread so if you are looking for a tutorial on cutting methods or some such look elsewhere.
Homework:
The first thing to consider about whatever fence you need to get past is it's location and surroundings. Are you going in during the day or night is also highly relevant. Is there any natural cover you can use to your advantage such as bushes, trees or anything near the fence you can use to conceal your positon while you attempt to cross? How exposed are you as you attempt to cross, are you well lit or directly visible from a road, street or nearby building?
Unless you are doing a spontaneous explore and it's now or never it is advisable to recon the area and your fence before the actual explore. If possible get photos of the surrounding area focusing on avenues of travel for both vehicles and people. Take photos of the fence including any gates, corners, lock security and possible nearby foliage or cover. These photos will help you plan your entry with greater efficiency as you can study the pictures at great length and detail without concern. The better pictures you take the easier it will be to devise the best means/location to attempt entry. Also note the positions of any active security measures such as motion sensors, cameras, tremble wires and light fixtures that could leave you exposed and visible.
If visible from a street drive by the location during the day as well as at night and get an idea of what the property looks like as well as how visible the fence is from the street. If you have preselected a crossover point in the fence pay close attention to this point as you make your driveby inspection. Is it well lit, is it patrolled or visible from a guard booth, is there a possible path you can use to escape if spotted? The greater the security the greater care you should take and closer attention you should pay to the details. Once you have driven past the location a half dozen times decide if you are going in during the day or night and what time would be best. No amount of time spent on research is wasted.
Fence construction and circumvention:
The sturdier the fence is built the easier and quieter it will be to climb it. When crossing a fence no matter what the type it is always easier as well as safer to cross at posts, corners and sometimes gates. The posts allow a much firmer place to climb as they are either buried or cemented in place in most instances. This makes the fence sway less causing less noise as well as helps to maintain balance. Corners are great locations to cross as they are often the sturdiest points of the fence and provide a 90 degree section which allows you to use the opposing section for balance and support for hands/feet. Gates will have the most anchoring/connection hardware anywhere on the fence and this hardware allows multiple hand and footholds. However as gates either swing or slide open they can be very sturdy while still causing noise so test the gate if possible by pushing on it or rattling it on your recon to see what kind of force you can exert before any dangerous level of sound is produced.
The older the fence and the greater the area it covers the higher the probability of sections that do not quite reach the ground or are otherwise loose or flexible enough to be simply peeled back and crawled under. Whereas newer, sturdier chain link fencing (many varieties of securing hardware and posts) make climbing easier, the older fences have a greater chance of having gaps, corrosion and loose sections. Barbed wire is the least potent of available fence toppings however it is not to be ignored as it can cause serious injury and is a climbing obstacle in it's self. The posts that the barb wire is attached to "can" provide a secure climbing hold for climbing up and over. However the posts can sometimes seem securely placed and come loose when sufficient weight is applied. This can be very dangerous as you can become entangled in the barb wire and quite seriously injured. The unpredictability of barb wire securing posts makes them a poor choice climbing aid and crossing point.
Razor wire comes in many different varieties and qualities of construction. Razor wire not only snags on clothing more readily than barbed wire but punctures flesh with less effort due to it's much finer points. Some razor wire is literally sharp and can cut as well as snag you so if you intend on crossing over this wire (not advisable) exercise extreme caution and take measures to render the wire harmless. This can be done but requires greater care as well as equipment and time which would be better spent finding a better location/method of entry. If you choose to cross over razor wire using some sort of covering make your choice wisely, ensuring sufficient thickness as well as width for your body.
Gates that are secured with chains and padlocks can sometimes be pushed far enough to squeeze through. Your size and flexibility however is the largest factor here and must be evaluated on a gate to gate and person to person basis. Sometimes gates with chains are hastily secured and the lock bolt not truly seated inside the lock body. This is not terribly common but does happen and is worth taking the few seconds to look.
When climbing any fence there are several key factors to pay attention to. Your balance is very important, especially at the high point of crossing the top of the fence. This is when you are most vulnerable to slipping or over compensating as this is when your center of gravity is shifting. Be sure of your hand placement and grip BEFORE you cross over the barb wire etc and plan ahead where your feet will be going. Unless in a totally abandoned area with no fear of capture never run up to a fence and try to vault over. This creates a great amount of noise and can get you hurt. If you become entangled in barbed wire, razor wire or any other object whilst climbing the fence take your time and carefully disengage yourself, don't panic. If you panic you could quickly wear yourself out and cause greater injury to yourself from inability to hold yourself over some danger ie. razor wire, long drop, pissed off watchdog etc. Keeping in good shape is a point that cannot be over stressed, especially upper body strength. When climbing, footholds are often harder to find than handholds but remember that your legs are much stronger and will take longer to tire so find a place to put them as soon as possible.
Thus far we have only covered your average chain link type fence and it's characteristic vulnerabilities. Other types of fence such as razor mesh, anti scaling and those of the electrified variety are a totally different matter. In those cases there are few possibilities of breaching the security of the fence without using destructive tools and methods. For this reason as well as their relative rarity in securing abandonments I am purposely leaving them out of this tutorial.
Physical security and psychology:
Physical security measures to many people represent an impenetrable barrier, things such as locks, gates, chains and fences seem to be perfect for keeping out unwanted persons. Some believe that the mere existence of said features will prevent anyone for entering or even attempting to enter. Security for the most part is an illusion. For example, many times you will see a marvelously constructed gate or door that is equipped with a shoddy or cheaply manufactured/installed lock. Large, high fences with formidable gates are commonly secured with only a cheap padlock at the ends of a chain that is far too long. Another example is the hardware of the fence it's self, even high quality chain link fence 8' or even 15' high has large gaps in it's structural integrity. For example, the long rods that commonly hold the actual chain link to the posts are connected to the posts with slim metal bands and are normally fastened with a single nut per band. The fence may keep you from walking through it and may posses great physical strength but it's strength as a security barrier is laughable to anyone with even minimal climbing skill or simple tools.
The reason for this section is to bring to light the opportunities provided by a well constructed and installed fence, no matter it's design be it chain link or highly security minded. Many places with good physical security neglect additional measures such as guards or CCTV monitors. "They" feel the property is safe due to their impressive fence and leave the property open to infiltration by their neglect of other measures. So if you see an impressive fence don't immediately write off the location as unexplorable.
Equipment and clothing:
Hooks, claws, spikes and grapples-
First, ignore all commercially available "hand claws/hooks/foot claws" and such, they are complete crap. Poorly made and virtually no thought whatsoever was given to their design, you are literally a lot better off making your own if you really desire such devices. On that note climbing aids are out there, not many of them are designed for fence scaling but there are some devices that can be adapted to this use. Normally I hate to site a film source but this case is an exception. In the motion picture "The Score" the protagonist Robert DeNiro uses simple metal handholds equipped with a rounded hook on the end and attached to nylon foot loops to scale a security fence. This is the only design I have ever seen in film that is not only entirely feasible but easily constructed. In the scene the person you see (unsure if the actor performed this stunt or a stuntman did) is actually scaling the fence and no animation, CGI or effect was used. In the photos below I have included a shot taken of this hook device for your benefit, please forgive the relative low quality as the image was captured by taking a photograph of a cheap TV screen playing the film. As to homemade hooks or claws and whatnot, there are many fences around us, take your device and try it out. Keep working at it and in no time you can develop an effective and custom made climbing aid.
Grapples- The same goes for the above, don't buy some grapple that's a $20 scam. There ARE good grapples on the market but they are not very well suited to fences, save these for other methods of entry not related to fences.
Tools- it is possible to disassemble part of a fence to allow access and then reassemble afterwards. Tools most useful for this are an adjustable wrench, vise grips or channel locks. Aside from that there is little in the way of tools that can be used in a non destructive way to open a portal through a fence that can later be reclosed.
Shoes- If you will be climbing over the fence take consideration about your footware. The harder the sole is (in terms of rigidity), the narrower the front of the shoe (toe area) the easier climbing chain link fence will be. Be it the fence section it's self or the hardware located around a post or gate a shoe with a hard sole and narrow toe area is best. If you have professional climbing shoes then excellent, if not then do what you can. If you are going under a fence by prying it up and crawling under then no specific type of shoe is required.
Gloves- I recommend bringing gloves on any explore but especially where crossing a fence is required. You must decide personally if you prefer dexterity over greater protection however as climbing may require one more than another depending on the situation. It is not a bad idea to bring more than one type of glove with you but any will offer you more protection that bare skin. You should get some idea of what you will need during the recon and homework phase.
Body- Baggy clothing is not recommended as you are more easily snagged and caught by everything, especially the nasty things you find at the top of fences. I have found great success with bluejeans myself as they are relatively tough and if fitted properly can be very comfortable for climbing in. Do not make the mistake that jeans will protect you from barbed wire or any other fence topping. I have found that even the tough fabric of jeans can rip "very" easily when caught on barbed wire and becomes almost hopelessly entangled in long eared razor wire. The key is to take your time and pay close attention to balance as you cross over watching your footing is essential. As far as shirts or jackets go just do what you can to not let things hang around too loosely so as not to get caught on something.
Simple one line tips to remember-
Posts, corners and gates are best for climbing.
The sturdier the fence is constructed the easier to climb.
There is always more than one way, look around.
DO YOUR HOMEWORK
If you can see someone on the road, they can see you.
Take your time climbing
Make as little noise as possible
Balance is key
Gloves are never a bad idea
If you ever want to explore the location again, leave no trace.
Regular exercise helps tremendously in climbing, do LOTS of chin ups
Pay attention to your surroundings, don't let yourself be startled
Always have an escape plan
Here are some examples of average chain link fence construction with focus on gates, posts and lock areas.
Here we see a section of fence with a convenient (transformer box?) that is inactive and provides a boost of several feet up and only one foot away from the fence.
Shot from a different angle, notice the hinges of the gate and all the possible hand and footholds available.
A closeup of the hinges of the other half of the gate, plenty of foot room and lots of surface for standing or grabbing.
An already existing hole in the fence compliments of local skater kids, as I said, always more than one way.
Here you see the mounting bracket for some barbed wire, can be a good climbing aid but also untrustworthy.
The posts are cemented into the pavement, nice and rigid fence structure.
A different gate at the same location, lots of places to grab onto and the diagonal bar across the back provides a decent foot support for ingress.
The latch of yet another gate at the same location with a convenient bar attached which made a superb foothold for me.
Here is a decent image of the hook device DeNiro used in "The Score"
I will be updating this tutorial on a regular basis with new photos of different fences, gates and information.
*edited for spelling error and spacing, 2 times*
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<Reply # 1 on 10/17/2006 4:30 AM >
| | | | I don't know what's worse: the fact that you took the time to write this or the thought of someone actually spending time to read it in order to figure out how to climb a fence.
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<Reply # 2 on 10/17/2006 4:40 AM >
| | | | It may be the sort of thing that seems all to obvious to those of us who climb things for breakfast, but this is one helluva great post. You've been stepping up on the tutorials, looks like. Hope you make FM soon.
And "The Score" is a great movie, too.
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<Reply # 3 on 10/17/2006 4:52 AM >
| | | | Thanks Johnny, I thought it was a good idea because there are entirely too many threads running around here that are generally useless and unrelated to exploring. Not to mention too much of the same old crap, what shoes to wear, do you carry a backpack, how many lights is too many, blah blah blah ad nauseum. Also I'm a climbing nut so it's always on my mind and I've read too many posts to count on this forum from people who seem ok but don't have a clue.
Another point, this is the tutorials section and there are practically none of them. I thought it time to bring the members back around to the idea of posting USEFUL information in places it belongs. Have you looked around this section lately, when was the last time you saw a tutorial?
Ultimately I know most of this is common sense and old news for anyone with any experience. Everyone can learn something new and if I remember correctly this place has a lot of young people here and not just old farts who've been doing it a while. However I do not want this going into the newbie section, tutorial...tutorial section...
Lastly I've been exploring with folks I climb with who can kick my ass on a rock wall but seem stumped by a fence. It's all relative and if nothing else was a constructive way to waste my free time that might help somebody sometime so that's enough for me.
And I'm going to keep adding to it 
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<Reply # 4 on 10/18/2006 3:54 AM >
| | | | Remember in most states if you breach a fence, especially of an active site, it's consider defiant trespass. More serious charges maybe added as well especially if carrying B&E tools, weapons of any kind, or if it's a facility housing people, crops, animals, or doing R&D.
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<Reply # 5 on 10/18/2006 4:20 AM >
| | | | Thats good to know info, but there are few places any of us explore where we aren't already trespassing. Also I will never make mention of weapons in a tutorial and I give no information on destructive entry techniques here so discussion of tools will be severely limited.
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<Reply # 6 on 10/18/2006 4:55 AM >
| | | | Posted by micro
I don't know what's worse: the fact that you took the time to write this or the thought of someone actually spending time to read it in order to figure out how to climb a fence.
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You havent seen a 200 pound explorer try to climb the side of a fence instead of going to the easy points have you?
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<Reply # 7 on 10/18/2006 5:53 AM >
| | | | It rained like a cow pissing on a flat rock here today otherwise I would have new photos up. Weather pending tomorrow I will have several new fences to show and will detail the methods I have found to work the best for crossing each of them. Every fence you will encounter is constructed differently and not all of the same type can be approached in the same manner.
A quick bit on foot spikes, finding secure footholds is the problem I deal with the most when crossing a fence. Some anti scaling fences can be defeated with the proper design of crampons as having no secure purchase for your feet is their primary strength and selling point. Crampons are metal coverings that are worn over the sole of the shoe and are intended for ice climbing. When all spikes but the ones of the toe area are cut off and ground down they make climbing chain link and some security barriers much easier. I have done this myself and have seen it done, not all crampons lend themselves to this purpose as you must find a pair with at least more than one toe spike. Some brands have the spikes opposed which forms a " V " and makes for the best climbing foot spikes I have ever seen. With the right shoes to go with them these spikes make climbing any chain link fence simple and safe no matter it's height and can make even some anti scaling fences much easier to overcome.
Another of the great things about crampons is that when using them for ice climbing the spikes at the toes are most in use. For this reason they are designed specifically to support the weight of the climber. One drawback however is the difficulty in getting the crampons to fit shoes (securely) that are not boots. Now many of you probably wear boots anyway so this would not be an issue but boots do not lend much to foot flexibility. Then again, with the properly modified crampons attached this would be irrelevant. The other big drawback to crampons is their price tag. For a decent pair from a reputable company you can expect to pay anywhere from $50 to $300 for them. In my personal opinion though, if you are climbing a lot of fences they are well worth the investment, just be sure you pay close attention to the toe spikes and wear the right shoes with them. Best to buy these in person so you can inspect them up close instead of purchasing online.
Here is a tip on climbing spikes and hooks in general, it doesn't matter if it is a grapple, hook or foot spike either. Metal on metal makes noise, a great way to reduce noise is by wrapping the hook/grapple/spike with electrical tape. This tape stays on quite well and has a natural elasticity which helps cushion impacts and thus deaden sound. Be sure you do not tape the actual contact surface of grapples (ie the point or tips), hooks or spikes. You want the contact point to be able to bite well while lessening the possible noise the rest of the tool may create while using it. As a side effect this will prolong the life of the grapple/hook/spike and reduce wear and tear. Be sure the tool functions properly without binding in any way before you need to use it though and replace/rewrap the tape as needed.
Here are some photos of crampons with different spike configurations...
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<Reply # 8 on 10/18/2006 6:21 AM >
| | | | some places around here have bastard chain link fences that, instead of having a bar running across the top, simply have a wire. this makes them nearly impossible to climb because there's nothing to grab on to.
am i the only one here who climbs backstops for practice?
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<Reply # 9 on 10/18/2006 6:25 AM >
| | | | They still have to be connected to some sort of post, try there. If you can get some pictures sent to me by email I can help you out better. Maybe I just live in a different part of the US but I am not familiar with the term backstop, what is this?
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<Reply # 10 on 10/18/2006 6:35 AM >
| | | | Posted by Olaf
They still have to be connected to some sort of post, try there. If you can get some pictures sent to me by email I can help you out better. Maybe I just live in a different part of the US but I am not familiar with the term backstop, what is this?
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i'll see if i can get some pictures tomorrow.
and a backstop is the tall fence behind home plate at a baseball diamond.
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<Reply # 11 on 10/18/2006 6:51 AM >
| | | | I knew it sounded baseball related, I just figured I was thinking of shortstop and confusing myself. Yes pictures would be good, get an overall shot, a length of fence with the top and any of the posts, if there is a gate in the fence that would be good too. What is on the other side of the gate you are trying to get to?
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<Reply # 12 on 10/18/2006 7:41 AM >
|  | | | Nope, there aren't gates in back stops. This probably isn't like the one imprezawrxsti was talking about, but at least it'll give you an idea:
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<Reply # 13 on 10/18/2006 8:29 AM >
| | | | Yeah I've seen plenty of these, I live about a 2 minute walk from a park with five baseball diamonds. The fences they have are canted at the top however, what with my bad luck with barbed wire posts I'm not climbing up there. The damn thing will probably collapse just like barbed wire does to me, despite my only 135lb frame.
Weather pending tomorrow I will be taking photos of some fence surrounding a local juvenile correction facility, a radio tower, a chemical plant and the other building I talked about in my "roofing and exploration" thread. I have dealt with every fence except the one at the correctional facility and they each have their own uniqueness, both in construction and obviously location.
The radio/tv rebroadcast tower is very well secluded but the fences are very well made and in excellent condition. They include barbed wire throughout and tremble sensors in some locations.
The chemical plant (Dupont or whatever the hell they are called now) or more accurately the location of the fence at the plant is also well secluded and easily approached both at night and during the day. This fence has a fake motion sensor box for some reason (I've looked inside it) in some lame attempt to keep people from fooling with the fence. It is an older fence, very likely more than fifteen years old and covers a lot of ground. There are some small sections that can be peeled up and crawled under, barbed wire is common but not all present and there is nothing within two hundred yards of the point of entry. The funny thing about this location is that if you walk down a service road right by the fence a few hundred yards you can completely circumvent the fence and gain access to the site with a minimum of fuss.
The juvie location is called Dobbs School and has only a small part of it's perimeter protected by 12' half moon chain link. By only a small part I literally mean there is a section of it out there all by it's self, connected to nothing but air, odd hmm.
The last location is a good example of squeezing under the bottom of a fence to gain access and inside is another inner fence that guards where they store tools during the renovation.
There is a state penitentiary within a half hours drive of here but I somehow doubt they would be very pleased with some guy taking up close photographs of their security. So I'll just be a sneaky bastard  No I'm kidding of course, I am not going to mess with this one. However it is an excellent example of double rows of anti scale, razor topped, electrified fence though. They have three loops of razor wire topping each fence instead of just one, each fence is at least 15' high and the top 8' or so is canted inwards at a severely climb inhibiting angle.
By far the coolest fence of the ones I will be taking pictures of tomorrow is the radio tower, the coolest location is the Dupont plant of which I've explored only a little of the grounds but extensive sections of their rooftops.
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<Reply # 14 on 10/18/2006 11:14 AM >
| | | | Posted by Olaf
Thats good to know info, but there are few places any of us explore where we aren't already trespassing. Also I will never make mention of weapons in a tutorial and I give no information on destructive entry techniques here so discussion of tools will be severely limited.
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Plan ahead and expect to encounter the police, sooner or later. Failure to do so may prove expensive. Most cops won't arrest you for trespass alone, and a municipal trespass isn't a big deal. Fence climbing tools will show premeditation, and not needed if one has good upper body strength.
Playing with active sites is generally not a good idea, and shows a disregard of others rights. Cops are much more likely to hammer you for it, and misdemeanor charges, let alone felony charges are serious, and may very well end your exploring altogether as others here know.
WARNING:
When scaling fences, be very careful not to get "hung up" on barbed wire or the chain fence ends when topping. If you do and became exhausted, you are fucked. Ha! You should have done more pull-ups and dips (don't scale fences if you can't do at least 6 pull-ups!)! Be prepared to sacrifice no kidding! pants, skin, and blood if you do. A piece of 9 gauge wire stuck in your groin will give you a really shitty attitude on life for a while.
Best to scale at gates, or better still if a tree or structure is close to offer handholds, or sometimes "walk up", similar to scaling I-beams. Holes others made work even better.
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<Reply # 15 on 10/18/2006 8:43 PM >
| | | | The only fence I haven't been able climb without tools was one that had a barbed wire fence on top of a chain link fence. It was wierd, the chain link fence was like 15 feet high, but than there was a really flimsy barbed wire fence for another six or so feet. I have no problem climbing barbed wire on top of fences, but the barbed wire at the top of this one would have pulled down if I had put all my weight on it and if that happened I would fall like 20 feet, not to mention the barbed wire that would fall with me. Any suggestions for this?
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<Reply # 16 on 10/18/2006 11:16 PM >
| | | | As with all unusual circumstances photos would be great, but is there another section that might be more climbable? Is there any type of gate in the fence, can you go under it? The more information I have the more I can help you, that is a very strange fence it sounds like, what is it guarding?
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<Reply # 17 on 10/18/2006 11:46 PM >
| | | | Posted by Chronos
The only fence I haven't been able climb without tools was one that had a barbed wire fence on top of a chain link fence. It was wierd, the chain link fence was like 15 feet high, but than there was a really flimsy barbed wire fence for another six or so feet. I have no problem climbing barbed wire on top of fences, but the barbed wire at the top of this one would have pulled down if I had put all my weight on it and if that happened I would fall like 20 feet, not to mention the barbed wire that would fall with me. Any suggestions for this?
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What the hell has 20 foot high fences? A prison?
Suggestions? Don't. If you do, don't screw up. eriw rettuc. Who said that!?
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<Reply # 18 on 10/18/2006 11:53 PM >
| | | | 20' could have been an exaggeration/casual guess, also I agree, I haven't seen many places with twenty feet of vertical fence. Especially a fence on top of a fence, at least the way I picture it, it sounds crazy. I got all the photos today I had hoped for and visited a few places I wasn't planning on. Will post them up along with another section sometime tonight.
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<Reply # 19 on 10/19/2006 6:28 AM >
| | | | Today we are going to go over how to spot and exploit the best location along a fence for crossing over. First thing is that no matter where your fence is or what type (chain link, welded rod, razor mesh) there is always some form of mounting/bracing post along it's length. I don't care if the fence is one section that stretches between one wall of an alley to another, there will be posts. Many fences have gates, some of them are electrically powered and some of them are manual "lift latch-walk through" gates.
First thing to remember when dealing with a fence is that the open sections are the last place you want to try and climb up. Below you will see several photos of different sections of the same fence, in each I have pointed out the vulnerabilities and possible hazards/obstacles to overcome.
Here is one of the main access gates at the back of the location, as you can see there is rusty barbed wire at the top of the gate as well as the fence sections on both sides. This gate is loosely locked with a chain but there is not enough play to slip through. However the chain makes a wonderful stepping point for climbing up and over on the left side, use the rounded pole caps as handholds and the top horizontal bar as your last foothold as you cross over.
This gate is equipped with a roller type sensor that detects when the gate is opened and is shown in detail below. However as you will not be opening the gate this will not be a problem.
Here is a corner where the mounting bracket for the barbed wire has been smashed down towards the inside of the fenced area. This would not be advisable to cross here, the damaged section is weakened and would not be good for supporting your weight so look elsewhere.
This is the section up against the concrete wall that you can see in the lower right portion of the above photo. There are few footholds to be found here and you have the barbed wire to contend with but this location has it's strong points. Number one, it is off to the side of the building and not in direct light from any of the external light fixtures. Number two there is this metal tubing you see that can aid in climbing. I tested it and it is quite sturdy however there is not sufficient room between the tube and wall for your hands. This is also not an optimal location to attempt crossing.
Here is a corner section of the fence that is near the front of the building and in direct view of the road that leads to the location. However this would be my primary choice for crossing over and here is why. Number one it is a corner so you have the advantage of opposing fence sections which is always easier than a single section. Number two there is securing hardware placed at convenient heights which made my test climb very easy, almost like a ladder. Number three, the large corner post you see is very secure and this section of fence did not rattle around at all when I did my test climb. Also as the road that leads to this location is about two hundred yards from the main road and on a decline there is little if no chance of being seen while crossing over despite this fence section being at the front of the building. The most important reason I choose this point for ingress is the speed with which I was able to climb over. Given the wonderful location of climbing holds, corner fence configuration and sturdy design this is my choice pick for entering this location.
Here you can see a broader view of the back section of fence that guards this location. Take note of the " V " pattern barbed wire mounting brackets, this configuration is much more difficult to cross over than the more common variety with only one mounting bracket.
Security measures will be discussed later but I am going to point this out now. The camera you see below was well hidden within some bushes that grew up against the side of the building and could have been missed if I had not taken the time to look for them. Interestingly it was rotated right up to the wall which I believe was caused by the bush blowing about in some storm. Remember that cameras are not as monstrous as they once were like the photo beneath this one which was taken at another location.
Small camera I almost missed...
Huge camera out in the open...
Here are photos taken of a water treatment plant, new fences topped with a ring of long bladed razor wire as well as standard barbed wire, one gate secured with a chain and two padlocks. The fence security here is a joke, I was able to swing the gates open so far (even with such a short length of chain) to slip between the two halves without touching anything. This is a perfect example of what I call silly security, nice shiny hardware that is poorly locked down.
This one was so easy a person much larger than myself could have gone between the "locked" gate. I examined the gate and was able to see by how the locking mechanism that is connected to the gate mates together that even if it were secured with a proper bolt and not a chain the gate can still swing freely enough to be pushed open and slid through. This gate would have to have new locking hardware installed between the two halves of the gate to prevent this from being possible. Aside from this grotesque oversight the four corners of the fence despite the inclusion of barbed and razor wire offer more than enough clearance to climb up and over without becoming snagged. I know, I did it.
I apologize for lack of photos showing the ideal hand and footholds and such. I do not have anyone to take pictures for me while I demonstrate so for now I hope the information and photographs I am supplying is sufficient.
Here is the treatment plant in total...
Here is the front and only gate...
Closer...
The inadequate locking mechanism that should still be used instead of a chain.
Here is all of my thigh penetrating the threshold, I would have gone further but was straining as it was to get the shot. Going all the way through was possible even had I been another hundred pounds heavier.
Have to love that razor wire...
That is all for now, tomorrow I will continue with how to select the best possible point to cross. Also we will start looking at and evaluating surrounding objects as climbing aids and places of cover during ingress/egress.
"I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubble gum"
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