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T-mac location: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Gender: Male \| \|	Lesson learned... < on 9/14/2006 1:37 PM >

	dont close doors behind you they might lock on you... long story short...since i did that i had to go up and down aprox. 60 flights of stairs to make everything back to the way it was. It was like a puzzle. Yeah so just dont close doors behind you they might lock on you.

Chronos location: Phoenix, Arizona Gender: Male \|	Re: Lesson learned... <Reply # 1 on 9/14/2006 5:47 PM >

	Hmmm, am I the only one who would like a more detailed explanation? "Always acknowledge a fault. This will throw those in authority off their guard and give you an opportunity to commit more." -Mark Twain

0U812 location: Lubbock, TX Gender: Female Texploration \|	Re: Lesson learned... <Reply # 2 on 9/14/2006 5:54 PM >

	Yeah, more of the story. I figured out what's wrong with life: It's other people.

T-mac location: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Gender: Male \| \|	Re: Lesson learned... <Reply # 3 on 9/15/2006 1:34 AM >

	its really hard to explain but ill try...humm to get into this building we have to go up 10 flights of emergancy stairs. once at the top we get into the elevator control room witch has a door to go into the rest of the building. Well by habbit i closed the door and it locked..so we had to go down the whole 10 flights inside the building to go out the front dooor(unlocking it). So we didnt want to leave it unlocked so we had to go back up the emergancy stairs(from outside) to open the door i shut to go back down and lock the front door...go back up again to exit down the emergancy exit. so i had to go: up 10 down 10 up10 down 10 up10 down 10 10*6=60 flights of stairs. what a workout

Chronos location: Phoenix, Arizona Gender: Male \|	Re: Lesson learned... <Reply # 4 on 9/15/2006 2:04 AM >

	Wow, sounds like fun. One of my worst UE fears is shutting a door behind me and getting locked in. I always bring some food and water, just in case. I guess worst case scenario would be having to open a door and trip an alarm...but still. "Always acknowledge a fault. This will throw those in authority off their guard and give you an opportunity to commit more." -Mark Twain

T-mac location: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Gender: Male \| \|	Re: Lesson learned... <Reply # 5 on 9/15/2006 1:45 PM >

	yeah i usualy have a granolla bar and some water just in case 2...but i sure learned my lesson.. dont feel like doing that again.

dewey379 location: North NJ & Baltimore, MD Gender: Male "Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici" \| \| \|	Re: Lesson learned... <Reply # 6 on 9/15/2006 3:32 PM >

	This past summer I went to a place that increased its security because a few kids locked themselves in a room and had to call the cops to get out. Well after dodging two security trucks and running in front of the security building; we found the first place we were going to head into. It ended up being the last because we set off a silent alarm. We heard the faintest of sounds coming from what we assumed to be the hub of the system but when a security truck was hauling ass down a dirt road with its high beams on we knew to split. Luckly he went to the wrong side of the building and we got out the one unlocked door. Unfortunately, when I reach the door I thew it open so hard that the third person couldn't unlatch it from the ground; so without a doubt they knew someone was there then. It does bring up the point though, why are most security guards so predictable. My friend said it the best, "if I were a cop or a security guard, I would be able to catch almost everyone doing this stuff because I have done all of it before." So no one here better turn to the other side and fuck it up for the rest of us. We must always fear the wicked. But there is another kind of evil that we must fear the most, and that is the indifference of good men.

Tyralus

location:
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Gender: Male

Re: Lesson learned...
<Reply # 7 on 9/15/2006 3:58 PM >

Posted by Chronos
Wow, sounds like fun. One of my worst UE fears is shutting a door behind me and getting locked in. I always bring some food and water, just in case. I guess worst case scenario would be having to open a door and trip an alarm...but still.

that's not fun at all. it's happened to me twice (though it's always been people with me who have set off the alarms), and the noise scares me shitless.

PAexplorations location: Pennsylvania Gender: Female Medication Time... \|	Re: Lesson learned... <Reply # 8 on 9/15/2006 4:07 PM >

	So no one here better turn to the other side and fuck it up for the rest of us." they already did.... Your hand is staining my window.

DevilC location: Washington, District of Corruption Gender: Male I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their views. \| \|	Re: Lesson learned... <Reply # 9 on 9/15/2006 4:16 PM >

	DO NOT pull fire alarms, even in long abandoned asylums and state hospitals. Science flies you to the Moon. Religion flies you into tall buildings.

Chronos

location:
Phoenix, Arizona
Gender: Male

Re: Lesson learned...
<Reply # 10 on 9/16/2006 5:54 AM >

Posted by Tyralus
that's not fun at all.

I was being sarcastic.

"Always acknowledge a fault. This will throw those in authority off their guard and give you an opportunity to commit more." -Mark Twain

Tyralus

location:
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Gender: Male

Re: Lesson learned...
<Reply # 11 on 9/16/2006 5:33 PM >

Posted by Chronos

I was being sarcastic.

I know.

Chronos location: Phoenix, Arizona Gender: Male \|	Re: Lesson learned... <Reply # 12 on 9/16/2006 7:21 PM >

	Glad we can understand eachother ;) "Always acknowledge a fault. This will throw those in authority off their guard and give you an opportunity to commit more." -Mark Twain

Reciprocity Failure

location:
Santa Barbara/Chicago
Gender: Male

See you on the dark side of the Moon

Re: Lesson learned...
<Reply # 13 on 9/16/2006 7:24 PM >

Posted by dewey379
It does bring up the point though, why are most security guards so predictable. My friend said it the best, "if I were a cop or a security guard, I would be able to catch almost everyone doing this stuff because I have done all of it before."

Good point, although I would imagine that the security guards are trained to deal with burglars, not UEr's. I'd imagine they go for different parts of building and maybe use different tactics. I don't know, just a guess.

That and security guards usually aren't the brightest and most motivated of individuals.

"It only takes one tree to make a thousand matches, it only takes one match to burn a thousand trees."

scottula

location:
Central Maryland
Gender: Male

Re: Lesson learned...
<Reply # 14 on 9/16/2006 7:43 PM >

Posted by DevilC
DO NOT pull fire alarms, even in long abandoned asylums and state hospitals.

Speaking from personal experience?

you can be one of the "well people" by making the most of your stay at glenn dale

Allva

location:
San Antonio, Texas
Gender: Male

I have my moments.

Re: Lesson learned...
<Reply # 15 on 9/16/2006 11:47 PM >

Posted by T-mac
dont close doors behind you they might lock on you...

long story short...since i did that i had to go up and down aprox. 60 flights of stairs to make everything back to the way it was. It was like a puzzle. Yeah so just dont close doors behind you they might lock on you.

So true.
I always have few of these in my bag.
Came in handy quite a few times.

Life is hard, but it's harder when you're stupid.

bryciekun

Re: Lesson learned...
<Reply # 16 on 9/17/2006 6:55 AM >

Posted by T-mac

so i had to go:
up 10
down 10
up10
down 10
up10
down 10

i had to do that in a video game once to solve a puzzle.

blah blah.

Mark

Very Noble Donor
location:
South Carolina
Gender: Male

What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?

Re: Lesson learned...
<Reply # 17 on 9/17/2006 4:14 PM >

Most security guards know how you get in and out of the building. They could probably catch you in two seconds, and with two running trucks up front they had the ability.

Here is why security guards DON'T catch you.

Personal crap reasons:
-They are lazy, and don't respond fast enough.
-They are lazy, and don't want to file paperwork.
-They check the alarm, and it states entrance by door(meaning it probably wasnt broken glass. This allows them to decide if they want to persue you or just scare you off, and write it up as a simple alarm activation.

System design/Planning issues:
-They are only one person, and the building has to much space to cover with to many entrances an exits(although most times people know how you sneak on property so this is moot if the guy has half a brain cell)
-The alarm system is faulty and goes off on a regular basis. This means responses are slow and predictable.
-The building in question(most likely abandoned) is frequented by non damaging people, and the guard knows this so they attempt to give you a easy way out.

guards know what your doing, why your doing it, and where you probably came from and will escape to merely by alarms.

It took me all of about 5 days on my property to figure out best tricks for breaking into places etc, and react accordingly. I also know the people that call about Ninja's in their attic every night, and who probably wont call unless the house is being assaulted by a foreign Army.

Do not underestimate a guard, just hope they are lazy, or asleep.

"If the threat level goes up its probably because of me." "I am looking for a girl who enjoys headbutting beltbuckles"

dewey379

location:
North NJ & Baltimore, MD
Gender: Male

"Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici"

Re: Lesson learned...
<Reply # 18 on 9/17/2006 5:08 PM >

Do not underestimate a guard, just hope they are lazy, or asleep.

All those were very good reasons why guards don't catch us more often and most of them I have thought of before. That night though was more of luck that we didn't get caught because that guard was highly motivated since the response was quick and they probably got their asses licked by their boss when those kids got stuck in that room. Also the building we went into looked to be a somewhat active one still on the site since only half the place is abandoned.

We must always fear the wicked.
But there is another kind of evil that we must fear the most,
and that is the indifference of good men.

iq72EfX location: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Gender: Male UE in a question mark suit since '05 \|	Re: Lesson learned... <Reply # 19 on 9/17/2006 11:02 PM >

	Bring a roll of duck/duct tape and put some over the strike box. Problem solved. When you're leaving, take it off.

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