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 |  | Re: Bye Bye Lyric
<Reply # 120 on 1/30/2010 5:53 PM >
|  | | | Bryan, perhaps the point is that the developers *don't* care. They're a business. Businesses exist to make money, not preserve heritage buildings.
Yes, it sucks to see another one fall. But, they didn't do anything illegal. I'm not disagreeing with the fact that its wrong to let a building crumble, but what choice do they have? They own the building, they *should* be able to do what they want.
And, the difference between a vacant lot and busy sidewalk? In terms of liability, absolutely nothing at all.
Unit calling radio say again? |
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steponmebbbboom
*NSFW*
| | Re: Bye Bye Lyric
<Reply # 121 on 1/30/2010 6:30 PM >
|  | | | Posted by Thadius
The Balfour building was part of the Lister Block.
Stop being so particular.
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sorry, i did not mean to offend.
anyway, i think the lister block is a great success story and youre right, after Lister, people HAVE learned, namely the citizens that rallied for the building and proved that you can make a difference and actually save a building.
LIUNA was going to demolish it. And council would probably have let it happen if we allowed them to.
but we DIDNT. We SAVED it. Look at the picture, it's being renovated right now. This is not a hopeless cause.
getting back to your comment about learning, the biggest thing we have learned is that if we want the city to encourage development of old buildings, we have to demand it, we CANNOT trust council and developers to do it themselves. and finding out when council meetings are taking place, attending them and speaking out, and organising rallies and so on isnt easy, but it is necessary. sitting around and calling council members unsavoury names on the internet is a waste of time and a bunch of hot air that accomplishes nothing.
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Air
   
Location: Canada
| | Re: Bye Bye Lyric
<Reply # 122 on 1/30/2010 8:18 PM >
| | | | Posted by steponmebbbboom
getting back to your comment about learning, the biggest thing we have learned is that if we want the city to encourage development of old buildings, we have to demand it, we CANNOT trust council and developers to do it themselves. and finding out when council meetings are taking place, attending them and speaking out, and organising rallies and so on isnt easy, but it is necessary. sitting around and calling council members unsavoury names on the internet is a waste of time and a bunch of hot air that accomplishes nothing.
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I don't know why we can't at least keep some buildings of historical value around and perhaps not alter them greatly in order to save them. This doesn't seem to be an issue in other places in the world, most notably in Europe. This is probably because of a combination of things, including the fact that we don't have long histories nor do we have a culture of preservation.
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"The extraordinary beauty of things that fail." - Heinrich von Kleist |
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TrixieSparrow
Location: Hamilton, ON
Gender: Female
I guess.
| | Re: Bye Bye Lyric
<Reply # 123 on 1/31/2010 6:24 AM >
| | | | Posted by steponmebbbboom
sorry, i did not mean to offend.
anyway, i think the lister block is a great success story and youre right, after Lister, people HAVE learned, namely the citizens that rallied for the building and proved that you can make a difference and actually save a building.
LIUNA was going to demolish it. And council would probably have let it happen if we allowed them to.
but we DIDNT. We SAVED it. Look at the picture, it's being renovated right now. This is not a hopeless cause.
getting back to your comment about learning, the biggest thing we have learned is that if we want the city to encourage development of old buildings, we have to demand it, we CANNOT trust council and developers to do it themselves. and finding out when council meetings are taking place, attending them and speaking out, and organising rallies and so on isnt easy, but it is necessary. sitting around and calling council members unsavoury names on the internet is a waste of time and a bunch of hot air that accomplishes nothing.
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It was actually liuna fucking up hardcore that spoiled their demo plans.
And I laugh at them so hard.
I hope they know how they dug their own grave there.
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TrixieSparrow
Location: Hamilton, ON
Gender: Female
I guess.
| | Re: Bye Bye Lyric
<Reply # 124 on 1/31/2010 6:28 AM >
| | | | Posted by Air 33
I don't know why we can't at least keep some buildings of historical value around and perhaps not alter them greatly in order to save them. This doesn't seem to be an issue in other places in the world, most notably in Europe. This is probably because of a combination of things, including the fact that we don't have long histories nor do we have a culture of preservation.
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Don't you loooooove north american culture?
No immediate use for it? Inconvenienced by it? then just destroy destroy kill kill kill.
Though in the case of places like lyric, it was unstable and unsafe. There was no economic way to save it. Unless money grew on trees. It's demolition, though sad, was necessary. So it goes.
I wish money grew on trees : (
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Air
Location: Canada
| | Re: Bye Bye Lyric
<Reply # 125 on 1/31/2010 4:23 PM >
| | | | Posted by Dresden
Don't you loooooove north american culture?
No immediate use for it? Inconvenienced by it? then just destroy destroy kill kill kill.
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Needs MOAR condos and malls.
"The extraordinary beauty of things that fail." - Heinrich von Kleist |
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Axle
Location: Milton, ON
Gender: Male
Sieg oder Tod
| | Re: Bye Bye Lyric
<Reply # 126 on 1/31/2010 8:53 PM >
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Saturday, Jan 30th, 2010.
Celer at Audax
Para la Victoria Siempre Alemanes! |
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Stewie
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
Gender: Male
kill your idols
| |  | Re: Bye Bye Lyric
<Reply # 127 on 2/1/2010 12:00 AM >
| | | | I am disappoint.
> The hierarchy of power dictates that the person with the most power does the least amount of work and retains the highest benefit. |
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TrixieSparrow
Location: Hamilton, ON
Gender: Female
I guess.
| | Re: Bye Bye Lyric
<Reply # 128 on 2/1/2010 5:50 AM >
| | | | Posted by Stewie
I am disappoint.
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seconded.
harumph.
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bex87
Location: Ontario
| | Re: Bye Bye Lyric
<Reply # 129 on 2/5/2010 5:24 PM >
| | | | WHen I first found out the lyric was gone I was devastated.. I really wanted to go check it out.. It looked awsome.. *sigh* I was actually supposed to go look at it a week before it collapsed, but things didnt pan out the way I wanted them to.. So sad.. RIP Lyric..
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s.l.o.t.h
Location: Hamilton, ON
Gender: Male
http://www.flick r.com/photos/slo thtree/
| | | Re: Bye Bye Lyric
<Reply # 131 on 2/25/2010 4:01 AM >
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/rage!
If you're having a stressed out day remember the sloth: They don't do shit and they haven't gone extinct; I'm sure you can afford to take a nap... |
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