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UER Forum > Archived Canada: Ontario > Bye Bye Lyric (Viewed 4500 times)
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Re: Bye Bye Lyric
<Reply # 20 on 1/8/2010 5:42 AM >
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That sucks...! The last time I went to Hamilton we couldn't get in here and went to the Tivoli instead. I always bypassed this place for something else when I was around and it would have been nice to see.

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Re: Bye Bye Lyric
<Reply # 21 on 1/8/2010 7:27 AM >
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Damn that's shitty. Although I am surprised it took so long for it to finally give in.

Most specific memory though, are the stories that Thad told me about this place.

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Re: Bye Bye Lyric
<Reply # 22 on 1/8/2010 5:52 PM >
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Source

Another downtown heritage building unsafe



Barry Gray, the Hamilton Spectator

January 08, 2010

Nicole O'Reilly
The Hamilton Spectator

The facade of the heritage- designated Century Theatre is in jeopardy after the city issued an order that it is unsafe and blocked access to the historic downtown building yesterday afternoon.

City of Hamilton public works staff began closing Mary Street and its sidewalks from King Street East to the northeast edge of the property around 4 p.m. as the building's owner, Zoran Cocov, of Lyric Century Apartments, looked on. The neighbouring parking lot will also be closed.

The order calls for immediate action because the building's inside on the upper floors are structurally unstable, said city spokesperson Debbie Spence.

Cars were towed off the street and neighbours were warned of the problem, though they were not told to evacuate. Police patrolled the area on foot to ward off any pedestrians.

Spence said the owner must have an engineer with heritage knowledge on site today to determine the immediate next steps. The area will remain closed until action is taken.

Lyric Century Apartments, which has owned the property for almost 10 years, obtained a heritage permit for the historic building's facade in 2007 and a demolition permit to tear down the rear of the building in March 2009, she said.

Plans were in the works to build a 59-unit condominium building, Cocov said.

The plan was to preserve the facade and first bay of side walls to stand as the condo entrance, he said. But the instability may mean the facade is too dangerous to save.

"Health and safety has to be the main concern right now," Cocov said.

In a Spectator article in September, Cocov said the preservation of the heritage feature was proving very expensive.

It is unclear when construction might have begun, as no site design had been submitted to the city, Spence said.

The city was alerted to the problem through an engineering company that had examined the site to provide the owners with a quote for its services, she said.

The state of the theatre, which is on the city's list of vacant buildings, caused many complaints from residents, Spence said. The last property standards complaint was on June 5, claiming the building was open to trespassers.

The historic building was the biggest of its kind in Hamilton when it opened 1913. With 2,000 seats it was a prime location on the vaudeville circuit and later showed movies.

It closed 20 years ago. Its last movie was Lethal Weapon 2.

Ward 2 Councillor Bob Bratina remembers seeing movies there. He said he is very sad to see how far a building with such value and presence has deteriorated.

"I had high hopes to reinstate it as a music theatre," he said.

Bratina said the city should have been able to preserve the building.

"It shows we still have a long way to go on our property standards," he said.

Bratina initiated the bylaw for proactive inspections. He said he plans to review it for holes, including what he called a lack of roof inspections.

"We continually have buildings falling down before our eyes."

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Re: Bye Bye Lyric
<Reply # 23 on 1/8/2010 5:53 PM >
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Sad to see it go. Brings back memories of my childhood seen a lot of movies their with my parents as a young in (wow that's like a good 25-30 years ago).

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Re: Bye Bye Lyric
<Reply # 24 on 1/8/2010 9:18 PM >
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aww damn i was really hoping to visit that place on sunday RIP

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Re: Bye Bye Lyric
<Reply # 25 on 1/8/2010 9:33 PM >
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Posted by Thadius

...

I returned to visit often over the next 20 years. I watched as the paint started to peel, I watched as they removed the seats and levelled the auditorium floor to try and turn it into a night club and failed. I watched as vandals and street people made it their hang out and home. I watched as the roof first started leaking and then collapsed upon the balcony I visited every time I entered.

...


I had no idea that you know of the Lyric so well.

When I first seen the balcony, it was only a huge jumbled pile of rotted wood. I have always wondered what the balcony looked like before the roof collapsed. What did the balcony looked like? Did it still have seats/benches when you seen it? How long ago did the roof collapse on the balcony?

Does anyone have any pictures of the Lyric showing the damage? I really wanted to take a look last night, however it looks like I will have to wait till I'm done work.

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Re: Bye Bye Lyric
<Reply # 26 on 1/9/2010 6:03 AM >
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I didn't make it down today and I'm assuming the building still stands today. I will definitely be down tomorrow for some final shots. Exteriors and interiors if possible safely.

> The hierarchy of power dictates that the person with the most power does the least amount of work and retains the highest benefit.
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Re: Bye Bye Lyric
<Reply # 27 on 1/9/2010 8:55 AM >
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Wow, really? That's sad to hear. I really enjoyed visiting it the couple times I made it out there.

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Re: Bye Bye Lyric
<Reply # 28 on 1/9/2010 9:58 AM >
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A flood of memories washes over me and my heart sinks. All things go.

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Re: Bye Bye Lyric
<Reply # 29 on 1/9/2010 4:34 PM >
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I just hope you all realize that after looking at today's article in the Spec, it seems the city didn't know that the roof had collapsed until Thursday. My perspective on it is the collapsed roof is what they mean by "collapsed floors", and all this hysteria is caused by something that's been a problem (which was visible from the outside) for years.

I went down there yesterday and there are no signs of any damage from the outside or from what windows I could see through.



[15:00:33] <SeeThirty> cause you're not likely to be anywhere that other people haven't been who didn't have protection
[15:00:41] <SeeThirty> still better safe than lexi
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Re: Bye Bye Lyric
<Reply # 30 on 1/9/2010 9:34 PM >
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I was just about to post something to that affect. I was also down this morning and there is no noticeable change to the exterior of the building. My theory is that the City of Hamilton coincidentally had an engineer assess the building last week, who discovered the problems that all of us have known for ages now. Seeing the incredible amount of collapsed floors and rot on the inside, they taped off the surrounding area and are using it as an excuse to pull the building down "for public safety". This isn't disputing the fact that the building does have a high likelihood of a major structural collapse, but it's almost certainly not due to anything that happened very recently.

Not exactly a Balfour building situation where the building has actually suffered a major structural collapse suddenly... just some minor interior collapses that are finally getting noticed. Either way now that the building IS being noticed, its days are numbered.

> The hierarchy of power dictates that the person with the most power does the least amount of work and retains the highest benefit.
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Re: Bye Bye Lyric
<Reply # 31 on 1/10/2010 3:57 AM >
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Didn't we tell them how unsafe it was inside years ago when the side door was broken wide open?

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Re: Bye Bye Lyric
<Reply # 32 on 1/10/2010 5:55 AM >
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I have posted about the condition of the theatre for the past 2-3 years now on many different online sources. I have also talked to Bob Bratina, the councilor for the ward Lyric is in and to a few people in the property standards department. I made special note of the condition of the roof.

It was too late even then however. I don't think it would have made any difference after 2005.

> The hierarchy of power dictates that the person with the most power does the least amount of work and retains the highest benefit.
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Re: Bye Bye Lyric
<Reply # 33 on 1/10/2010 6:04 AM >
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Mike emailed someone with the city after we agreed that would be best with the door being open like that. Told them that it was open and about what it was like inside. They had the door sealed.

Why are they acting so surprised now? They knew all along.

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Re: Bye Bye Lyric
<Reply # 34 on 1/10/2010 3:54 PM >
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Posted by Dresden
Mike emailed someone with the city after we agreed that would be best with the door being open like that. Told them that it was open and about what it was like inside. They had the door sealed.

Why are they acting so surprised now? They knew all along.


They were probably waiting for it to catch on fire, or something. I seriously doubt they were not aware about its condition. Wasn't there talk about restoring this building earlier in the year?

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Re: Bye Bye Lyric
<Reply # 35 on 1/10/2010 11:17 PM >
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They have been aware for years now.

Also anyone interested in learning a lot more about the building, see this facebook group. The owner has posted tons of historic photos and information. It's quite amazing to go through.

The Century Theatre



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Re: Bye Bye Lyric
<Reply # 36 on 1/11/2010 1:06 AM >
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Posted by Stewie
They have been aware for years now.

Also anyone interested in learning a lot more about the building, see this facebook group. The owner has posted tons of historic photos and information. It's quite amazing to go through.

The Century Theatre




that page was put up by Matt Jelly, the friend i was referring to in the other thread... him and a few other admins are running it.

edit: thanks boffo for making this thread public, the community response to this one is much more interesting.
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Re: Bye Bye Lyric
<Reply # 37 on 1/11/2010 5:45 AM >
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Well I am disappointed that I never got to see this place.

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Re: Bye Bye Lyric
<Reply # 38 on 1/11/2010 5:50 AM >
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Wowza. I haven't been there in years, but have some fond memories. Like having my foot go right through the false ceiling.

No one told me I could walk ONLY on the boards!







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Re: Bye Bye Lyric
<Reply # 39 on 1/11/2010 10:09 AM >
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Posted by Jono
Wowza. I haven't been there in years, but have some fond memories. Like having my foot go right through the false ceiling.

No one told me I could walk ONLY on the boards!

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