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 hey_its_di4n4
    
Location: Los Angeles
Gender: Female
 |  | Re: How do you reject bad UE partner offers?
<Reply # 20 on 1/19/2009 10:07 PM >
|  | | | Posted by seicer
Thanks, dick.
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I...was being sarcastic.
Posted by hatsumi
so you all hopped the fence and he actually found an easier and less obvious and attention attracting way into the same place ? sheesh, yeh sounds like a liability for sure.
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We weren't trying to get into a location, we were just walking somewhere.
I figure I'll take him to an easy location, see how it goes. Better he decides for himself he doesn't want to do UE than me exclude him from it. If he likes it and is a good partner, cool. If not, at least I gave it a shot and he can't guilt trip me about not calling him. Thanks for the input.
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Kemper
Location: A dark hole in the ground
Gender: Male
| |  | Re: How do you reject bad UE partner offers?
<Reply # 21 on 1/20/2009 8:15 PM >
| | | | Tell him he might get hurt, then take him with you. People usually learn from mistakes.
http://devilslyric.deviantart.com/ |
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Allva
 
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Gender: Male
I have my moments.
| | | Re: How do you reject bad UE partner offers?
<Reply # 22 on 1/21/2009 3:50 AM >
| | | | Posted by hey_its_di4n4
So..I have a photographer friend who has seen a few of my UE photos from the east coast and he can tell I'm itching to do some exploring in LA. He decides to offer himself as an exploring partner. [Not hitting on me--he's a gay].
This guy, though a decent photographer, would be the *worst* person to explore with. He's awkward, clumsy, quite heavy-set (not in the muscle-y barrel-chested way) and just...I know he would fall and twist his goddamn ankle within 10 minutes of being at a location.
How do I tell him it's not a good idea? Take him to a location that involves a strenuous hike??
I would like to note that I'm not saying you have to be some lithe, dexterous person to do UEing, but the guy is just one big ball of awkward. An accident waiting to happen. So..any suggestions are much appreciated.
EDIT: Spelling error
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When you bring somebody to an exploration site, you must remember that their safety is your responsibility. If you think that your friend will be in some kind of danger because the way he is or the way he carries himself it is your right to refuse him. If you don't want to hurt his feelings, just keep coming up with excuses and hopefully he'll get the point.
Life is hard, but it's harder when you're stupid. |
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ActionSatisfaction Esq.
  
Location: Newark, NJ
Gender: Male
Action always satisfies
| | Re: How do you reject bad UE partner offers?
<Reply # 23 on 1/21/2009 4:36 AM >
| | | | Take them somewhere easy first.
Get ass naked and take pictures of yourself while there.
*warning, might have a completely opposite effect*
"The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life." - T.R. |
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metawaffle
 
King of Puns
Location: Brisbane!
Gender: Male
Purveyor of Fine Lampshades
| | | Re: How do you reject bad UE partner offers?
<Reply # 24 on 1/21/2009 4:57 AM >
| | | | Posted by ActionSatisfaction Esq.
Take them somewhere easy first.
Get ass naked and take pictures of yourself while there.
*warning, might have a completely opposite effect*
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Indeed. When you did that, recently, didn't people run off, and return with spectators?
http://www.longexposure.net |
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Kroc
Location: Salisbury, Maryland
Gender: Male
| | Re: How do you reject bad UE partner offers?
<Reply # 25 on 1/21/2009 5:08 AM >
| | | | Posted by ActionSatisfaction Esq.
Take them somewhere easy first.
Get ass naked, take pictures of yourself while there, post pics later.
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fixed.
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Ram23
Location: Cincinnati, OH and/or Queens, NY
Gender: Male
| |  | | Re: How do you reject bad UE partner offers?
<Reply # 26 on 1/22/2009 3:14 PM >
| | | | I'm sure he will search the internet for urban exploring sometime soon, stumble upon this thread, recognize you, and the work will be done.
Cincinnati UE Photos: http://zfein.com/photography |
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ActionSatisfaction Esq.
Location: Newark, NJ
Gender: Male
Action always satisfies
| | Re: How do you reject bad UE partner offers?
<Reply # 27 on 1/22/2009 11:41 PM >
| | | | Posted by metawaffle
Indeed. When you did that, recently, didn't people run off, and return with spectators?
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Hahaha it didn't seem to chase anybody off, that's for sure. And there were way more people in the room afterward, so I assume yes!
"The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life." - T.R. |
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SirJinx
Location: Los Angeles Area
Gender: Male
| | Re: How do you reject bad UE partner offers?
<Reply # 28 on 1/23/2009 9:02 PM >
| | | | The "Fat" Descrimination is strong on this thread.
I've been with many explorers - young, old, short, tall, fat, skinny, athletic.
It depends on the PERSON more than it does the way they look. I play basketball with lots of "heavy set" dudes who are more athletic and have more cardio ability than a lot of skinny people I know. Not only that, but they are strong as fuck and come in handy being "big dudes."
If the dude is genuinely a clumsy oaf, then by all means exclude him for that. Not because the dude is a little overweight. My best friend Frank is about 5' 11" and weighs close to 300. It has never stopped us from some of the best explores ever. Dude is down for anything, has very good ninja skills, is very resourceful (thinking of alternate ways in) and has charisma that works absolute WONDERS on security and police. The guy could talk himself out of a DUI while having consumed a 5th of Vodka.
So trust me, fat does not equal a liability. This guy has saved our asses. Is very smart. If we can't get in one way, we will often find an alternate way in. One example was, I used him as a human ladder to get into a second story window. Then I crawled in the window, came to the door and unlocked it from the inside.
It was his idea, easy as shit to do and once inside, there was no other problems.
I swear sometimes you guys act like you're doing a military run - Jumping Barb Wire, going through mine fields, running from the FBI. Most explores (unless you're actually sneaking on some hi profile, dangerous location) are pretty safe. Abandoned places for the most part aren't some Army Obstacle course.
Most of the places I've been to have GIANT HOLES cut into the fence...or some other easy way of access. Hell sometimes, the place is wide open, no security whatsoever. Some UER's think they are really ninjas and blow the whole exploring fun out of proportion.
I haven't had to jump a barbed wire fence since El Toro. And even in doing that, that was probably the easiest thing in the world. If I had my Chubby buddy Frank with me, we no doubt would have found an easier way out. Hell... I bet you we would have just walked out the front gate. Why? Because he has fucking bad ass social skills and would have gotten us out of any questioning.
People are weird. |
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MindHacker
Location: Suburbs of DC
Gender: Male
If you spot a terrorist arrow, pin it to the wall with your shoulder.
| | Re: How do you reject bad UE partner offers?
<Reply # 29 on 1/25/2009 4:06 AM >
| | | | The weather was beautiful last night and I had to get out of exploring with someone... so I just told her that I wasn't doing any exploring because I had to be super cautious to keep my record clean due to probation.
"That's just my opinion. I would, however, advocate for explosive breaching, since speed and looking cool are both concerns in my job."-Wilkinshire |
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Dick Winter
Location: Richmond
Gender: Male
| | Re: How do you reject bad UE partner offers?
<Reply # 30 on 1/26/2009 1:55 AM >
| | | | take them to a place that's secluded, like a distant abandonment, or, preferably, a tunnel of some sort, and then tell them that the majority of murders are committed by a friend. I think this will work better if it's someone you recently met.
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Mickael
Moderator
Location: Canada
Gender: Male
| | Re: How do you reject bad UE partner offers?
<Reply # 31 on 1/26/2009 3:18 AM >
| | | | About the fence comment: I, personally, have a big problem with fences, while my two exploration partners are fucking ninjas.
Yet, I've always managed to find a less-obvious/dangerous way inside locations than hopping a fence.
Need forum-related help / Besoin d'aide reliée au forum ? Contact a moderator |
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Dougo
Wrong account -- Look for other Doug
Location: Victoria, Australia
Gender: Male
| | | Re: How do you reject bad UE partner offers?
<Reply # 32 on 1/26/2009 12:55 PM >
| | | | Posted by hey_its_di4n4
How do I tell him it's not a good idea? |
Give him a link to this thread 
FacialBook is killing online forums. |
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Oryx
Location: Who knows
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| | Re: How do you reject bad UE partner offers?
<Reply # 33 on 1/27/2009 6:06 PM >
| | | | I just say no. I guess I'm just a bitch though.
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AKBC
Location: Colorado
Gender: Female
| | | Re: How do you reject bad UE partner offers?
<Reply # 34 on 2/11/2009 4:25 PM >
| | | | Posted by hey_its_di4n4
How do I tell him it's not a good idea? Take him to a location that involves a strenuous hike??
I would like to note that I'm not saying you have to be some lithe, dexterous person to do UEing, but the guy is just one big ball of awkward. An accident waiting to happen. So..any suggestions are much appreciated.
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It seems you've decided to try and take this guy on an easy explore...that would be my suggestion. Let him get his exploring feet wet with something interesting but not terribly challenging. It is not the fairest assumption that he won't be any good on an explore, and that he'll become injured right away. I wouldn't take him on the strenuous hike one though, that might be setting him up for an injury or failure, especially if he accepts just to finally get to go.
As a side note...accidents happen, doesn't matter if you're a noob or a lifer, fat/skinny/strong/wimpy whatever we can all get hurt in a site, nature of the UE beast
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Crumpet
Location: Brisbane, AUS
Gender: Male
You know you're in Brisbane when...
| | | Re: How do you reject bad UE partner offers?
<Reply # 35 on 2/12/2009 12:56 AM >
| | | | Posted by Mickael
About the fence comment: I, personally, have a big problem with fences, while my two exploration partners are fucking ninjas.
Yet, I've always managed to find a less-obvious/dangerous way inside locations than hopping a fence.
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I hate fences too, and occasionally they're an obstacle in the only way in/out of a location. This happened to me a few days back on a draining outing, where a friend and I wound up in bushland near a highway onramp. Fortunately he was pretty patient with my noobish fence-hopping, so it all turned out for the best.
So to the OP - I'm lucky that I've got an exploring partner who can accept (and put up with/help me when need be) that I can't slash my way through thick scrub or navigate or fence-hop as well as he can. If the guy you're talking about isn't completely incompetent & idiotic, perhaps you should give him a chance - an easy exploration sounds like a good idea. You may well find that he has his own skills to add, anyway.
- Crumpet (http://www.urbanillusions.org)
[from micro's "drainer rules"] 3rd RULE: If someone says "rain" or "thunderstorm", the draining is over. |
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arilem
Location: saskatchewan, canada
Gender: Female
Find me on social as @vanishedcompass @prairiepast
| | | Re: How do you reject bad UE partner offers?
<Reply # 36 on 2/12/2009 4:50 AM >
| | | | take this person out to a location in the middle of nowhere and leave them there. Just Kidding. That is cruel.
Take them to a test spot and give them a chance. Something that is not a very secretive location but you may have to jump a fence or be really quiet or fit through a small area.
If you really don't want to go out with them keep yourself occupied and keep exploring yourself. But be careful and don't go exploring with people this person may know. Then you could be in some serious trouble.
prairiepast.com
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BobbyWhiskey
Location: Montreal/Sherbrooke
Gender: Male
| | | Re: How do you reject bad UE partner offers?
<Reply # 37 on 2/17/2009 4:22 PM >
| | | | What i do is tell them the risk of UE (Police, safety, asbestos, mafia, serial killers, dinosaurs? ) and they often don't want to go after... But if they still want to go, i think they are up for a try
http://www.flickr....otos/31033728@N06/ |
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bourbonbaby
Gender: Male
| | | Re: How do you reject bad UE partner offers?
<Reply # 38 on 2/17/2009 4:55 PM >
| | | | At first my girlfriend seemed like the last person who'd want to come with me on my my ridiculous escapades through society's archaeological detritus, but after watching her fume about being blue-balled by not being able to get into an abandonment, then propping her up to get into a second story window at a second place to go in and unlock a door in the basement, she's become quite the little intrepid explorer.
Never underestimate the possibility of curiosity turning into passion.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wojtek/ |
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Happiedaze
Location: Galveston Area, TX
Gender: Female
| |  | | Re: How do you reject bad UE partner offers?
<Reply # 39 on 2/17/2009 5:46 PM >
| | | | Just give the guy a try!
I've been exploring with some bigger guys (And I'm not exactly skinny myself) and they did just fine!
Besides, if security shows up, you can hide behind him.
'Our plans are all laid out,
take all these unmarked roads,
we blaze the trails to places no one goes, yeah!' -Rise Against |
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