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 |  | Re: Worst Building Ever (hotel; abandoned for 20 years)
<Reply # 40 on 2/4/2008 8:44 PM >
|  | | | If you somehow manage to get into North Korea, you will be escorted by "Guides" the entire time you are there. You will see only what they want you to see, and nothing more. I can't imagine the repercussions if you were to break away from your escort and start taking photographs of abandoned buildings, especially in a place that is reputed to murder it's criminals and homeless.
I think I'll pass on that.
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Steed
      
Location: Edmonton/Seoul
Gender: Male
Your Friendly Neighbourhood Race Traitor
| |  | Re: Worst Building Ever (hotel; abandoned for 20 years)
<Reply # 41 on 2/5/2008 3:14 AM >
| | | | A travel agent wouldn't get me there, believe me. I have to find some kind of random government department that I'm only assuming exists. The only people ever to go inside the hotel were potential investors.
And langP is right, I am Canadian. But I do know one or two South Koreans who have made it up to Pyungyang. My father-in-law made it there as part of a literary conference, at least once. I'm hoping he has some advice for me.
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Aggressive
Location: Toronto
| | Re: Worst Building Ever (hotel; abandoned for 20 years)
<Reply # 42 on 2/5/2008 8:31 PM >
| | | | I like the look of this thing, its like a big fake mountain. Prefer that style to the crappy boxy condo's they build around here.
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Jesus Died For Somebody's Sins
Location: Province of Montreal
Gender: Female
| | Re: Worst Building Ever (hotel; abandoned for 20 years)
<Reply # 43 on 2/6/2008 12:41 AM >
| | | | It makes our Olympic Stadium look like a smashing success...
The KKK took my Expos away |
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Greg
Location: Canada
Gender: Male
How is this even 'exploration'? It's a loving house you've already been in you weirdo!
| | | Re: Worst Building Ever (hotel; abandoned for 20 years)
<Reply # 44 on 2/6/2008 12:55 AM >
| | | | Should we consider a fund-raising drive to get racetraitor there to get us more photos and whatever else is of worth?
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Gordon Bombay
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio.
Gender: Male
Queen City Disco
| |  | | Re: Worst Building Ever (hotel; abandoned for 20 years)
<Reply # 45 on 2/6/2008 1:02 AM >
| | | | Posted by Jesus Died For Somebody's Sins
It makes our Olympic Stadium look like a smashing success...
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After reading your post I went and looked up Olympic stadium of Montreal, are they gonna tear that place down? What a mess.
[last edit 2/6/2008 1:02 AM by Gordon Bombay - edited 1 times]
www.queencitydisco.com
CINCINNATI and other exploration PHOTOGRAPHY |
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Jesus Died For Somebody's Sins
Location: Province of Montreal
Gender: Female
| | Re: Worst Building Ever (hotel; abandoned for 20 years)
<Reply # 46 on 2/6/2008 2:23 AM >
| | | | I don't know. That place is the number one reason why the Expos are gone.
I heard the way it was built it was impossible to tear down, that it would fall all over the streets and buildings in the neighborhood. not sure if thats true or not.
The KKK took my Expos away |
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TheGreatShakesby
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Gender: Male
| | Re: Worst Building Ever (hotel; abandoned for 20 years)
<Reply # 47 on 2/6/2008 4:15 AM >
| | | | That place looks fucking amazing. I would give (almost) anything to explore there and make it out okay.
This is beautiful.
This is art. |
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Steed
Location: Edmonton/Seoul
Gender: Male
Your Friendly Neighbourhood Race Traitor
| | | Re: Worst Building Ever (hotel; abandoned for 20 years)
<Reply # 48 on 2/6/2008 10:42 AM >
| | | | Posted by Greg
Should we consider a fund-raising drive to get racetraitor there to get us more photos and whatever else is of worth?
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What would help the most is if we start a fake corporation and I'm the tycoon CEO and all of you are my employees. They tend to let rich investors in.
So...who wants a job with Race Traitor Enterprises?
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Greg
Location: Canada
Gender: Male
How is this even 'exploration'? It's a loving house you've already been in you weirdo!
| | | Re: Worst Building Ever (hotel; abandoned for 20 years)
<Reply # 49 on 2/6/2008 11:43 AM >
| | | | I shall take a job at Race Traitor Enterprises. I wish to apply for the head of the IDT, Inc. division. [Identity Theft, Incorporated].
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everybodyknows
Location: Ithaca, NY
bacon is meat candy
| | | Re: Worst Building Ever (hotel; abandoned for 20 years)
<Reply # 50 on 2/6/2008 4:38 PM >
| | | | me and my girl call R&D!
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." ~James Dean
"People break so easily, and so do dreams and hearts." ~Neil Gaiman |
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Samurai
Vehicular Lord Rick
Location: northeastern New York
No matter where you go, there you are...
| | Re: Worst Building Ever (hotel; abandoned for 20 years)
<Reply # 51 on 2/6/2008 4:45 PM >
| | | | Posted by Jesus Died For Somebody's Sins
I don't know. That place is the number one reason why the Expos are gone.
I heard the way it was built it was impossible to tear down, that it would fall all over the streets and buildings in the neighborhood. not sure if thats true or not.
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someone told me that the concrete was of such a shitty quality that it's crumbling in places... and it can't be torn down?
yikes.
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Magnoodles
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
Gender: Male
I am your favourite.
| | | Re: Worst Building Ever (hotel; abandoned for 20 years)
<Reply # 52 on 2/6/2008 11:17 PM >
| | | | Actually, I think I remember reading that it (the Olympic Stadium) was built using stressed concrete. Meaning, dynamite or pyro can't be used to implode it, 'cause the concrete will literally explode out in all directions. Rather, if they want to get rid of it, they actually have to chip away at it manually. (I'm 95% sure I'm right on this. I used to be a big mark for stadiums and arenas when I was little.)
I dunno if this helps:
The different forms of construction used in a number of more or less conventional structures built during the last few decades will give rise to a variety of problems when the time comes for them to be demolished. Pre-stressed concrete structures fall in this general category.
In the case of progressively pre-stressed structures, it is essential to obtain the advice of a professional engineer, and to demolish the structure in strict accordance with the engineer's method of demolition. The stored energy in this type of structure is large. In some cases, the inherent properties of the stressed section may delay failure for some time, but the presence of these large pre-stressing forces may cause sudden and complete collapse with little warning.
Maybe this unfinished North Korean hotel was built in such a way that just blowing the thing up (or imploding it) is actually really potentially dangerous? *shrugs*
[last edit 2/6/2008 11:18 PM by Magnoodles - edited 1 times]
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Ram23
Location: Cincinnati, OH and/or Queens, NY
Gender: Male
| | | | Re: Worst Building Ever (hotel; abandoned for 20 years)
<Reply # 53 on 2/7/2008 2:52 AM >
| | | | I'm an architecture student, and in a structural theory class we studied the immense failure of the Montreal Olympic Stadium. It's the most inefficiently designed structure I've ever seen, the entire thing acts against itself. It would be difficult to implode because everything would want to fall away instead of in.
Here's some pictures of what I am talking about:
http://daapspace4....e/MontOlmy.html#10
As for the hotel, I don't think it would have a similar problem with demolition. The problem there would simply be the amount of material that would have to be cleaned up. It is already a mountain of concrete - that is much more concrete than I've ever seen in a skyscraper of that size. Usually the goal is to make the structure lightweight. The debris pile left after imploding a building like this would be the size of the average skyscraper.
Cincinnati UE Photos: http://zfein.com/photography |
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Origato
| | Re: Worst Building Ever (hotel; abandoned for 20 years)
<Reply # 54 on 2/7/2008 5:17 AM >
| | | | Imagine playing hide and seek in that? You could hide a whole tribe in that place and it could evolve from the discovery of fire to the bronze age before you realised they were even there.
No country can be that hard to get into.
Caution! This user is a wise ass and may use sarcasm.
Is my back pack good enough for UERing? |
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Stewie
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
Gender: Male
kill your idols
| | | Re: Worst Building Ever (hotel; abandoned for 20 years)
<Reply # 55 on 2/7/2008 8:00 AM >
| | | | Posted by Origato
No country can be that hard to get into.
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Except for this one.
> The hierarchy of power dictates that the person with the most power does the least amount of work and retains the highest benefit. |
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Steed
Location: Edmonton/Seoul
Gender: Male
Your Friendly Neighbourhood Race Traitor
| | | Re: Worst Building Ever (hotel; abandoned for 20 years)
<Reply # 56 on 2/7/2008 1:26 PM >
| | | | Posted by Origato
Imagine playing hide and seek in that? You could hide a whole tribe in that place and it could evolve from the discovery of fire to the bronze age before you realised they were even there.
No country can be that hard to get into.
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I met a Canadian at a party once who spent six months in Pyongyang. The stories he had were amazing. He even had a North Korean girlfriend for a while (not an easy nor legal feat). At night, the city is almost entirely dark, and there are military checkpoints all around the place. He told me also that because none of the elevators are working, all the apartments on the top floors of the apartment buildings are empty. He used to go up there for some privacy.
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Richard Davies
Location: stockport
Gender: Male
The Trickster On The Roof
| | Re: Worst Building Ever (hotel; abandoned for 20 years)
<Reply # 57 on 2/7/2008 6:24 PM >
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| I met a Canadian at a party once who spent six months in Pyongyang. The stories he had were amazing. He even had a North Korean girlfriend for a while (not an easy nor legal feat). At night, the city is almost entirely dark, and there are military checkpoints all around the place. He told me also that because none of the elevators are working, all the apartments on the top floors of the apartment buildings are empty. He used to go up there for some privacy. |
The Lonely Planet Guide to North Korea warns potential visitors not to try chatting up any female guides, no matter how friendly they seem.
You're Standing On My Neck |
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UrbanExGirl27
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Gender: Female
| | | Re: Worst Building Ever (hotel; abandoned for 20 years)
<Reply # 58 on 2/7/2008 11:23 PM >
| | | | yikes, just...yikes
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Jesus Died For Somebody's Sins
Location: Province of Montreal
Gender: Female
| | Re: Worst Building Ever (hotel; abandoned for 20 years)
<Reply # 59 on 2/7/2008 11:51 PM >
| | | | Posted by Samurai
someone told me that the concrete was of such a shitty quality that it's crumbling in places... and it can't be torn down?
yikes.
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the concrete was crumbling as early as 1991 I believe. I used allow myself one terrified glance up at the concrete ring when I'd go see the Expos.
A lot of our overpasses are in a lot worse shape.
The KKK took my Expos away |
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