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 Hlywud
        
Location: Lethbridge, AB
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 |  |  | Re: Sheppard subway line might get mothballed
<Reply # 40 on 7/21/2007 5:12 PM >
|  | | | Posted by Avatar-X
I've seen rude drivers a whole lot more.
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I remember one time on the bus a visually impaired man got on and the driver didn't bother waiting for this man to find a seat before starting to pull away. The poor man was groping in the air trying to find something to stop himself from falling down, luckily several close by passengers got up and steadied the man before he did fall.
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Agent Skelly
  
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Location: Oregon Territory
Gender: Male
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| |  |  | | Re: Sheppard subway line might get mothballed
<Reply # 41 on 7/21/2007 11:26 PM >
| | | | I'm not sure whats the case with the TTC, but usually the bus drivers wages aren't whats eating up the ledger, but typically with mixed-mode transit systems its either the subway employees like turnstyle attendants.
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Mutt
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Location: Bunbury, Western Australia
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| | | Re: Sheppard subway line might get mothballed
<Reply # 42 on 7/22/2007 3:51 AM >
| | | | Its not just active drivers wages that play into the 90%. Think about the pensions of those that dont work for the TTC anymore. There's lots.
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Agent Skelly
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Location: Oregon Territory
Gender: Male
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| | | | | Re: Sheppard subway line might get mothballed
<Reply # 43 on 7/22/2007 4:19 AM >
| | | | You could probably save money by actually getting rid of the drivers on the Scarborough RT since you don't need actually.
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Aggressive
Location: Toronto
| | Re: Sheppard subway line might get mothballed
<Reply # 44 on 7/28/2007 10:39 AM >
| | | | What my street car driving buddy had to say about losing the shepard line
I suspect its just a big doomsday thing. It works for many transits. TA threatens to cut this and that, than the state/province comes in with some funding. Same shit different day. hehee.
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Air
Location: Canada
| | Re: Sheppard subway line might get mothballed
<Reply # 45 on 7/28/2007 6:04 PM >
| | | | Posted by Agent Skelly
I'm not sure whats the case with the TTC, but usually the bus drivers wages aren't whats eating up the ledger, but typically with mixed-mode transit systems its either the subway employees like turnstyle attendants.
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Or the management and executives. And like someone else already said, I'm sure they have a nice pension plan as well.
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Agent Skelly
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| | | | | Re: Sheppard subway line might get mothballed
<Reply # 46 on 7/28/2007 6:12 PM >
| | | | Posted by Air 33
Or the management and executives. And like someone else already said, I'm sure they have a nice pension plan as well.
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Well...in the case of the TTC, I don't think there is overpaying the management going on from looking at the figures here.
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KONG
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Location: Kingston, Ontario
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| | Re: Sheppard subway line might get mothballed
<Reply # 47 on 7/28/2007 6:19 PM >
| | | | Like most companies, management salaries don't make up a huge portion of total payroll at the TTC. Here's the list of TTC employees who made over $100000 last year. There's 277 people here, and most aren't management types.
City of Toronto - TTC ABDULBAKI YOUNANE Operator $107,408.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC ALBANO VINCE Foreperson, Wiring and Services Subway $106,164.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC ALCAZAR BLANCA Superintendent, Application Architecture $101,771.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC ANCONA FRANK Foreperson, Structure Rehabilitation $124,639.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC ANDERS MICHAEL Marketing Research Director $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC ANDREWS TERRY Chief Special Constable $130,449.00 $3,252.84
City of Toronto - TTC ARKSEY DAVID Project Manager $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC ATLAS MICHAEL Solicitor $113,539.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC BAIK TONY Project Manager $108,863.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC BAIRD RONALD Supervisor, Garage Technical Support $101,542.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC BALLANTINE PAUL Assistant Manager, Claims $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC BARBER JASON Transit Special Constable $107,788.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC BARTRAM WARREN General Supervisor, Track & Structure $159,585.00 $3,252.84
City of Toronto - TTC BASSO JOHN Supervisor, Track Maintenance & Rehabilitation $100,103.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC BAYLEY KENT Senior Design Engineering, Communications $118,766.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC BECKINGHAM RICHARD Survey Party Chief $108,120.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC BEECROFT RICHARD Chief Auditor, Internal Audit $136,623.00 $3,240.00
City of Toronto - TTC BELHU TESHOME Operator $109,374.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC BERTOLO ANDY Chief Project Manager, Construction $161,425.00 $3,252.84
City of Toronto - TTC BHATTI KULWARNS Operator $109,154.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC BINETTI VITO Foreperson, Surface Track $109,773.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC BLAKEY SCOTT Executive Director, Human Resources $159,673.00 $3,252.84
City of Toronto - TTC BOLTON MARILYN Public Affairs Director $101,444.00 $0.00
City of Toronto - TTC BORAGINA MARIO Head, Mechanical Design $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC BOUTILIER ROBERT Deputy General Manager, Surface $181,308.00 $7,608.72
City of Toronto - TTC BOZINOVSKI JAMES Foreperson, Wiring and Services Subway $106,826.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC BREWER MICHELE Supervisor, Payroll & Benefit Accounting $109,047.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC BRIFFA JOANN Superintendent, Subway and Surface $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC BROOKS FRANK Slip Clerk $114,223.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC BROWN WILLIAM Manager Vehicle Engineering $140,150.00 $3,183.00
City of Toronto - TTC BRUNACCIONI JOSEPH Superintendent, Electrical $106,519.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC BRUNT DAVID Supervisor, Signals $104,959.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC BUTTIGIEG PAUL Chief Accountant, Financial Services $115,454.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC CALLAGHAN BRYAN Foreperson, Surface Track $114,458.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC CAMPBELL DAVID Foreperson, Surface Track $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC CAMPBELL DENNIS Operator $101,351.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC CAMPBELL FRANK Project Manager $101,444.00 $0.00
City of Toronto - TTC CAMPBELL PATRICK Resident Superintendent $100,131.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC CANNELL JOHN Manager, Pension Fund Society $148,247.00 $3,253.00
City of Toronto - TTC CANNITO JOHN Supervisor, Wiring & Service, Surface $113,194.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC CANNON JOHN Chief Information Officer $156,368.00 $3,252.84
City of Toronto - TTC CAPICOTTO VINCENZO Foreperson, Communications $100,830.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC CARMICHAEL DAVID Superintendent, Subway and Surface $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC CARR GARY Chief Engineer, Operations Planning $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC CARVALHO NELSON Garage Foreperson $100,075.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC CHAMBERLAIN JOHN Senior Supervisor, Surface Transportation $115,788.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC CHENG DORA Director, Application Services $115,454.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC CHOCORLAN ALLEN Manager, Materials and Procurement $159,585.00 $3,253.00
City of Toronto - TTC CLANCY THERESA Superintendent, Transit Control $101,367.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC CLARKE TERESA Director, Compensation and Benefits $115,713.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC CLARKSON DENNIS Senior Designer, Communications $118,484.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC CLUNIES ANTHONY Project Manager $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC CORNACCHIA RICK General Manager, Operations $190,020.00 $7,609.00
City of Toronto - TTC COVENY GERALD Head, Standards $101,863.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC CREAZZO ANTHONY Superintendent - Budgets $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC CSASZAR ELMER Audit Manager $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC DALESSANDRO MICHAEL Foreperson, Communications $101,168.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC DARAKJIAN MARY Pension Fund Accountant $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC DASILVA RICHARD Coach Technician $100,727.00 $749.00
City of Toronto - TTC DAWSON WILLIAM Superintendent, Route & System Planning $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC DEAN KATHRYN Manager, Training $136,623.00 $3,253.00
City of Toronto - TTC DELUCA ANTHONY Senior Foreperson $101,743.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC DHESI AJAIB Operator $107,320.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC DIMOVSKI VLADO Resident Superintendent $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC DIPASQUALE PAT Supervisor Carhouse,Technical Services $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC DISTEFANO ADELIO Supervisor, Structure Maintenance $119,081.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC DIXON DAVID General Superintendent, Bus Maintenance $159,626.00 $3,253.00
City of Toronto - TTC DODD MAUREEN Project Manager $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC DOROSCH ROBERT Superintendent, Schedules $102,579.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC DOUGHERTY ROBERT Supervisor, Rail Cars & Shops Maintenance Engineering $115,454.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC DOWDALL ROY Assistant Supervisor, Streetcar Carhouses $100,364.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC DRAUDVILA KAS Audit Manager $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC DUCHARME RICHARD Chief General Manager $296,036.00 $12,656.00
City of Toronto - TTC DUGGAN ANDREW Supervisor, Construction & Prevention Maintenance $103,912.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC DUMITRIU PETRUT Foreperson, Structure Rehabilitation $107,687.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC ESSON GEORGE Senior Roadmaster $122,348.00 $50.00
City of Toronto - TTC EWING JOHN Senior Designer, Signals $113,415.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC FANTI FULVIO Superintendent, Estimating $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC FARRELL THOMAS Sergeant, Transit Patrol $101,408.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC FERGUSON JOHN Supervisor, Wiring and Service, Subway $109,354.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC FINIELLO GAETANO Operator $102,537.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC FINN DERICK General Supervisor, Signal, Electrical, Communications $159,585.00 $3,253.00
City of Toronto - TTC FLORINDI SILVANO Construction Manager $116,570.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC FLYNN GERARD Foreperson, Surface Track $112,190.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC FOSTER ALLAN Director, Project Manager $109,047.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC FRASER JAMES General Superintendent, Rail Cars & Shops $119,246.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC FROST WILLIAM Manager, Support Services $136,623.00 $3,253.00
City of Toronto - TTC FU HERRICK Senior Systems Analyst $109,611.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC GAGNON PETER Supervisor Carhouse,Technical Services $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC GALEA TED Supervisor, Transportation $101,446.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC GALEJS JOHN Head, Property and Alignment Design $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC GARDNER STEPHEN Supervisor, Wiring & Service, Surface $119,298.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC GARRIDO GUSTAVO Solicitor $107,431.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC GHALY SAMEH Chief Project Manager, Construction $126,065.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC GILCHRIST STUART Superintendent - Subway & Scarborough Rapid Transit Track $105,749.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC GINGRAS FRANCOIS Night Supervisor, Subway Operations $100,567.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC GLEBE MARTIN Project Manager $101,232.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC GRAY ORRETTE Operator $107,111.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC GREENWOOD COLLIE Superintendent, Subway and Surface $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC GREY MICHAEL Technical Support Analyst $107,582.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC GRIMMETT JOHN Superintendent, Network Services $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC GUANZON ROMEO Coach Technician $109,730.00 $749.00
City of Toronto - TTC GUERRA MARIO Senior Supervisor, Heavy Maintenance $110,273.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC HAFFEY` MATTHEW Supervisor, Station Operations & Collectors $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC HANSON ALAN Sergeant, Transit Patrol $110,047.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC HEALD CHRISTOPHER Project Manager, Subway Rail Vehicles $105,721.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC HEIBEIN WILLIAM Chief Inventory Planning $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC HEINZ CHRIS Deputy Chief Information Officer $136,607.00 $3,253.00
City of Toronto - TTC HERDSMAN KEITH Operator $107,422.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC HEWITT KELVIN Senior Foreperson $102,462.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC HILBORN LYNN Deputy General Manager, Corporate $181,308.00 $7,609.00
City of Toronto - TTC HILL MURRAY Superintendent, Special Events $109,476.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC HOWARD AL Supervisor, Garage, Technical Support $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC HUGHES DAVID Manager, Revenue Operations $131,214.00 $3,253.00
City of Toronto - TTC HUGHES ROBERT Chief Project Manager $136,623.00 $3,253.00
City of Toronto - TTC HUNT ROGER Supervisor, Signals $106,092.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC HYLTON RONALD Bus Fleet Manager $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC IANNUCCI ANTHONY Director, Technical Services $115,454.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC INFANTES JOSE Lead Hand, Coach Technician $102,449.00 $749.00
City of Toronto - TTC ISMAIL MOHAMED Supervisor, Vehicle, Work Cars $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC JANES BRUCE Supervisor, Subway & Scarborough Rapid Transit Track $110,168.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC JEFFRIES CHRISTINE Director, Employment Services $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC JEFTIC MLADEN Head, Electrical Engineering $115,454.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC JENNINGS MITCHELL Lead Hand, Coach Technician $102,807.00 $749.00
City of Toronto - TTC JOHNSTONE GLEN Superintendent, Structure Maintenance $106,519.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC JORDAN IAN Superintendent, Maintenance $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC JUDGEY MOHAN Operator $108,308.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC KENNEDY ALFRED Supervisor, Garage, Technical Support $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC KENNELLY JOSEPH Audit Manager $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC KIRKPATRICK ROBERT Project Coordinator, Buses Procurement $101,744.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC KOBYLANSKY OREST General Superintendent, Streetcars $147,645.00 $3,253.00
City of Toronto - TTC KOPER STANLEY Superintendent - Subway & Scarborough Rapid Transit Track $117,765.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC KOUROUMALOS CONSTANTIN Operator $107,649.00 $0.00
City of Toronto - TTC KROHM PAUL Supervisor, Garage, Technical Support $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC KRZYWONOS ED Superintendent, Production Control $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC KUZMANOVIC SASHA Senior Structure Inspection Engineer $110,850.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC KWOK ADA Superintendent, Applications Portfolio $102,540.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC LAM DAVID Communication & Information Systems Technician $105,223.00 $138.00
City of Toronto - TTC LAM STEPHEN Superintendent Vehicle Engineering $115,454.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC LANGDON MARYANNE Supervisor, Environment & Occupational Hygiene $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC LAURIN PIERRE Head, Civil and Geotechnical Design $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC LAUTSCH EDWARD Head, Special Projects $115,449.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC LEACH CHRISTINE Audit Manager $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC LECK BRIAN General Counsel $159,585.00 $3,253.00
City of Toronto - TTC LEE JAMES Chief Project Procurement $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC LEGER DONALD General Supervisor, Plant Maintenance $159,585.00 $3,253.00
City of Toronto - TTC LEVY BARUCH Lead Hand Communication & Information Systems $100,337.00 $138.00
City of Toronto - TTC LONGSON BRIAN Supervisor, Track & Streetcar Maintenance Engineering $115,454.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC LOUIS EDWIN Foreperson, Signals $104,215.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC LOW GRAHAM Project Manager, Streetcar Maintenance $115,479.00 $3,253.00
City of Toronto - TTC MACDIARMID WILLIAM Superintendent, Subway and Surface $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC MACDONALD ALASTAIR Assistant Manager, Purchasing & Sales $105,832.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC MACKINNON DANIEL Senior Engineer, Mechanical $100,578.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC MACLEOD KEVIN Director, Client Services $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC MACNEILL GLEN Transit Special Constable $104,445.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC MACRI PAOLO Operator $101,864.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC MAHARAJ JAGGERNAUTH Chief Accountant, Payrolls and Costs $115,482.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC MARINOFF GEOFFREY Deputy General Manager, Subway Operations $167,575.00 $3,253.00
City of Toronto - TTC MARTINO ANTHONY Senior Foreperson $105,350.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC MATTIUSSI JOANNE Director, Administration Planning & Development $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC MCBEAN HORACE Shift Foreperson, Wheel-Trans $116,643.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC MCCREATH IAN Superintendent, Graphic Communications $101,594.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC MCFARLANE KENNETH Construction & Development Coordinator $103,289.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC MCGUIRE KAREN Associate General Counsel $136,623.00 $3,253.00
City of Toronto - TTC MCKAY STUART Senior Design Engineer, Signals $113,426.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC MCKENZIE RAYMOND Operator $104,376.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC MCPHERSON THOMAS Supervisor, Customer Service & Planning $102,214.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC MCTAGUE JAMES Supervisor, Signals $121,612.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC MEREDITH RANDALL Superintendent, Subway and Surface $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC MERINGOLO JOHN Foreperson, Non Revenue $104,033.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC MIDDLEBROOK THOMAS Manager, Engineering $112,247.00 $2,162.00
City of Toronto - TTC MILLER ROBERT Project Manager $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC MILLETT PAUL General Supervisor, Subway Transportation $159,585.00 $3,253.00
City of Toronto - TTC MINHAS KULBIR Supervisor, Signals $101,343.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC MOLUCHI GEORGE Superintendent, Route Manager $100,456.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC MONACO FORTUNATO Superintendent, Traction Power $106,963.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC MORASSUT DONATELLA Project Manager $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC MUETZ ROMAN Customer Information Director $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC MULDER BEA Superintendent, Desktop Services $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC NAIK NAVAL Supervisor, Substations & Power Control $106,118.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC NARDUZZO LUIGI Supervisor, Leak Remediation $110,876.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC NORMAN OSCAR Director, Quality Assurance $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC O'GRADY JOHN Manager, Safety $136,623.00 $3,253.00
City of Toronto - TTC O'NEILL BRIAN Deputy Chief, Engineering Design $114,684.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC PARTINGTON DAVID Senior Supervisor, Heavy Maintenance $116,670.00 $3,253.00
City of Toronto - TTC PAU KENNY Construction Engineer $105,405.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC PEARLLIE RODGER Subject Matter Expert $111,079.00 $44.00
City of Toronto - TTC PELUSO ROBERT Operator $100,493.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC PEREIRA TONY Supervisor, Communications Bus & Rail $106,519.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC PERRON STEPHEN Project Manager $103,200.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC PESHIMAN ANEES Coach Technician $114,003.00 $717.00
City of Toronto - TTC PETERS BRUCE Route Supervisor $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC PETERS DENNIS Supervisor, Garage, Technical Support $103,887.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC PIIL MICHAEL Superintendent, Applications Portfolio $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC PILIECI JOHN Supervisor, Communications $100,493.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC PIRMOHAMED ZAHIR Garage Foreperson $101,717.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC PORTER GERALD Operator $102,699.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC POULADVAND HAMID Garage Foreperson $101,416.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC PRESLEY DAVID Chief Accountant, Capital Projects $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC PRIDAY NORMA Solicitor $114,766.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC PRISTUPA MILAN Supervisor, Signals, Electrical, Communications $106,339.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC PRITCHARD ALLAN Supervisor, Garage, Technical Support $101,386.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC PROSSER JOHN Route Supervisor $107,410.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC PUPAVAC SNEZANA Head, Communications Engineering $115,454.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC PYNN DONALD Operator $106,515.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC QURAISHI ASLAM Coach Technician $106,786.00 $748.00
City of Toronto - TTC RAMPINO ERNIE Foreperson, Communications $103,873.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC RANKIN KENNETH Superintendent, Field Operations $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC REED TANAKA SUSAN Manager, Engineering $141,226.00 $3,253.00
City of Toronto - TTC REIDAK MARK Superintendent, Signals $106,519.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC RICHARDSON RALPH Chief Accountant, Treasury Services $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC RICO JOSEPH Foreperson, Overhead $103,139.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC RIZZO FRANK Supervisor, Signals $102,763.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC ROBERTS JIM Foreperson, Wiring and Services Subway $102,819.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC ROBERTSON DONALD Foreperson, Surface Track $109,640.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC ROCHE MICHAEL Chief Financial Officer $159,585.00 $3,253.00
City of Toronto - TTC RODDY MICHAEL Supervisor, Signals $103,006.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC RODO VINCENT General Secretary & General Manager Executive $206,037.00 $13,807.00
City of Toronto - TTC ROLANTY MICHAEL Resident Superintendent $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC ROSATI ROBERTO Project Supervisor, Tunnel Liners $116,040.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC RUSSELL MARK Staff Sergeant, Special Investigations $109,485.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC SANSOM GORDON Superintendent, Subway and Surface $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC SCHMIDT ANNA Sergeant, Transit Patrol $100,435.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC SCHMIDT MICHAEL Superintendent, Structure Inspection $117,661.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC SEGGIE GORDON Roadmaster, Subway & Scarborough Rapid Transit Track $123,783.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC SEPULIS JOHN General Manager, Engineering & Construction $206,037.00 $13,807.00
City of Toronto - TTC SERAZIN CARL Supervisor, Garage, Technical Support $101,739.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC SHAW BRUCE Operator $102,144.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC SHORTT GARY Supervisor, Station, Tunnel, Building Equipment $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC SINGH JASVINDER Foreperson - Subway & Scarborough Rapid Transit Track $116,602.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC SINIKAS JAMES Senior Project Engineer $141,697.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC SLADE BLAIR Foreperson, Signals Construction $103,625.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC SMALE RON Superintendent, Subway and Surface $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC SMITH ALICE Chief Marketing Officer $117,806.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC SMITH HOWARD General Supervisor, Surface Transportation $159,171.00 $3,252.84
City of Toronto - TTC SMITH BRUCE Supervisor, Communications $102,847.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC SNOWDON BRIAN Senior Supervisor, Heavy Maintenance $101,975.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC SOHI DEVINDER Supervisor, Signals $101,622.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC STAMBLER IRA Manager, Service Planning $136,624.00 $3,252.84
City of Toronto - TTC STANLEY CHERYL Head Administrator, Pension Fund Society $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC STEWART JACQUELINE General Afternoon Night Clerk $100,434.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC SYED HASANALI Garage Foreperson $110,079.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC TABAR EDWARD Foreperson, Greenwood Shop $100,016.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC TANGNEY SEAN Slip Clerk $119,015.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC TEEPLE JAMES Superintendent, Streetcar Way $106,519.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC THACKER ROBERT General Supervisor, Wheel-Trans Operations $159,585.00 $3,252.84
City of Toronto - TTC THAM CHOON Supervisor, Station & Building Maintenance $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC THOMPSON RICHARD Project Manager $115,454.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC TITLEY KENNETH Supervisor, Garage, Technical Support $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC TOMAS JOSE Head, Electrical and Power Design $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC TORRALBA DANTE Audit Manager $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC TRIMBLE DAVID Senior Designer, Communications $107,794.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC TULETT GRAHAM Project Manager $101,625.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC TURNER GEOFFREY Foreperson, Signals $104,037.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC TURNER PETER Senior Superintendent, Greenwood Shop $102,579.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC VALLE JULIE Superintendent, Revenue Operations $105,575.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC VASEY DENISE Project Manager $101,625.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC VINCE RICHARD Deputy Chief Engineer, Controls $115,454.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC VISCONTI ROSARIO Assistant Superintendent, Operations $106,991.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC WALLACE RICHARD Service support $101,314.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC WALSH LISA Director, Employee Relations $117,642.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC WARD CHARLES Foreperson, Substations $110,134.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC WATKINS JAMES Operator $100,865.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC WATLING KEITH Supervisor, Signals, Electrical, Communications $117,362.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC WATSON KIRSTEN Senior Director, Human Resources $136,658.00 $3,252.84
City of Toronto - TTC WEBB TERRENCE Chief Storekeeper $101,444.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC WEBSTER GARY Chief General Manager $235,895.00 $13,806.72
City of Toronto - TTC WEI JACK Senior Data Base Analyst $100,709.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC WHEELER CHARLES Deputy Chief, Property Management $137,676.00 $3,252.84
City of Toronto - TTC WILGUS LEONARD Senior Solicitor $115,454.00 $3,252.84
City of Toronto - TTC WONG WILLIAM Senior Revenue Operations Clerk $112,668.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC WONG KEE Supervisor, Plant Maintenance Engineering $115,454.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC WOOD MICHAEL Senior Designer, Track $102,248.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC WOYCE JAMES Coach Technician $107,231.00 $749.00
City of Toronto - TTC WRIGHT CRAIG Transit Special Constable $103,929.00 $76.00
City of Toronto - TTC YING TERENCE Senior Database Analyst $102,353.00 $75.72
City of Toronto - TTC YOANNIS AKRAM Project Manager $108,682.00 $75.72
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| | Re: Sheppard subway line might get mothballed
<Reply # 48 on 7/28/2007 6:33 PM >
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Like most companies, management salaries don't make up a huge portion of total payroll at the TTC. Here's the list of TTC employees who made over $100000 last year. There's 277 people here, and most aren't management types.
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OMFG this is probably what we should have started with. Its far worse then I imagined. Clarification though, executives usually don't take to much out of the 'pool' so to speak because there is not that many of them.
This however, is astonishing!
City of Toronto - TTC STEWART JACQUELINE General Afternoon Night Clerk $100,434.00 $76.00
I now know I picked the wrong line of work.
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| | | Re: Sheppard subway line might get mothballed
<Reply # 49 on 7/28/2007 7:52 PM >
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Like most companies, management salaries don't make up a huge portion of total payroll at the TTC. Here's the list of TTC employees who made over $100000 last year. There's 277 people here, and most aren't management types. |
Most of those people are management. All the forepeople, supervisors, designers, engineers, etc. fall into the management category of the TTC. Only the operators, clerks, and wannabe-cops wouldn't count as management.
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| | Re: Sheppard subway line might get mothballed
<Reply # 50 on 7/29/2007 1:35 AM >
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Most of those people are management. All the forepeople, supervisors, designers, engineers, etc. fall into the management category of the TTC. Only the operators, clerks, and wannabe-cops wouldn't count as management.
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It all depends where you draw the line.
I don't consider front line supervision or engineers as management, and I definately don't consider designers to be management.
No matter where we draw the line. I don't think the engineering staff, superintendents, and supervisors on that list are overpaid.
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| | Re: Sheppard subway line might get mothballed
<Reply # 51 on 7/29/2007 1:43 AM >
| | | | Posted by El Diablo
It all depends where you draw the line.
I don't consider front line supervision or engineers as management, and I definately don't consider designers to be management.
No matter where we draw the line. I don't think the engineering staff, superintendents, and supervisors on that list are overpaid.
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I guess it depends on what your comparing them to. Project managers I know who work in the bank as well as in the hospital make between $38,000-$60,000, about half of what these people do.
I've heard the same about hydro workers as well, if I remember the figure right I read in NOW that 70% of the workers at Ontario Power HQ make over $100,000.
It would be nice if everyone else in comparable positions would make as much as they do. I do think a Night Clerk making $100,434 is overkill.
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| | Re: Sheppard subway line might get mothballed
<Reply # 52 on 7/29/2007 3:05 AM >
| | | | So, uhm.. are they still talking about closing this thing or what?
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| | Re: Sheppard subway line might get mothballed
<Reply # 53 on 7/29/2007 3:13 AM >
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So, uhm.. are they still talking about closing this thing or what?
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Hopefully.
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| | Re: Sheppard subway line might get mothballed
<Reply # 54 on 7/29/2007 3:34 AM >
| | | | First of all, TTC operators with over 30 months on the job earn $26.58 / hour, which works out to about $55K per year. Many of them are working a full-time split shift that, when the downtime in the middle is factored in, adds up to more than 11 hours a day though they only get paid for 8.5 hours.
As someone has already pointed out, many of the positions on the pay disclosure list are mid-to-senior operations staff. These employees make what they do because people with their experience and/or skills are in short supply and get paid that much or more by the private sector. Being a project manager at a massive integrated transit operator or a utility requires a considerably different skill set and draws from a considerably smaller pool of potential applicants than being a project manager at a bank or a hospital. If it didn't, your project manager friends at the bank and hospital would have powerful reason to have jumped ship for the transit commission. They haven't because they don't have the engineering or construction or trades experience that the TTC needs.
Your outrage at the earnings list is founded entirely in ignorance, since you have no additional information about the roles and responsibilities assigned to any given employee on that list, nor even how much of the amount given was overtime. In many cases, the amount disclosed is not simply base salary, but base salary plus a significant quantity of overtime. This is likely the case for all the operators and special constables that appear on the list. Despite the wage rates that people in this thread are describing as offensive, the TTC has significant difficulty recruiting and keeping enough operators to reach its service targets. Similar shortages exist in its vehicle, track and facilities maintenance departments, where TTC HR contends with a severe labour shortage in the skilled trades.
Anyway, payroll taking up the lion's share of operating expenses is typical for nearly any organization. The TTC's 75% payroll as a portion of total operating budget compares favourably to both the Toronto Police (94%) and a typical suburban school board (Halton Board of Education, 85%). Payroll at Transit Chicago is also about 75%, New York City Transit's is 78%.
And that takes me back to school bus drivers. First of all, school bus drivers are criminally underpaid, and they're in that situation for a reason. The demographics of that workforce are primarily stay-at-home mothers and retirees with little else in the way of skills or other prospects in the job market. The positions are largely split-shift part-time usually working just four or so hours a day, and are often un- or poorly unionized. School bus transportation companies don't have to pay their drivers anything more because they view them as passive, desperate and eminently replaceable.
You can push your politics of resentment all you want, but while there's no shortage of people to fill entry- or mid-level positions at banks, there is a shortage of people willing to drive a TTC bus all day for $26/hour. While the union puts some upward pressure on salaries, the labour shortage would only be worse if the Commission were paying operators less, and if we were capping operator pay at $16/hour we wouldn't have any buses on the road at all.
It's not wrong to pay people a healthy salary for providing a vital public service, regardless of what education (or lack thereof) they required for the job or whatever negative anecdotes you should choose to cherrypick from your personal experiences with select members of the transit union. Welcome to labour market supply and demand.
Full Disclosure: I do not work for the TTC, nor do I know anyone who does. For the past fifteen months I've been riding the 36 Finch and 42 Cummer buses on a daily basis (oftentimes substituting the 39 Finch East for the 42). My salary is significantly less than that of an experienced TTC operator, but for some reason I'm not angry about this.
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| | | | | Re: Sheppard subway line might get mothballed
<Reply # 55 on 7/29/2007 4:54 AM >
| | | | Kowalski:
That 78% for the NYC Transit, you are talking specially about the Metropolitan Transportation Authority as a whole or specially the bus division which is called "New York City Transit" ?
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| | Re: Sheppard subway line might get mothballed
<Reply # 56 on 7/29/2007 4:54 AM >
| | | | Posted by kowalski
As someone has already pointed out, many of the positions on the pay disclosure list are mid-to-senior operations staff. These employees make what they do because people with their experience and/or skills are in short supply and get paid that much or more by the private sector. Being a project manager at a massive integrated transit operator or a utility requires a considerably different skill set and draws from a considerably smaller pool of potential applicants than being a project manager at a bank or a hospital. |
That's kind of laughable to make a broad sweeping generalization like that. I'm speaking on behalf of three managers all with different levels of experience. They all have different skill sets, working in transit certainly isn't worth more, they are equally qualified people. I'm saying their pay certainly should be more, to be inline with their responsibilities. I can express whatever dissatisfaction I want in regards to pay, the wonderful thing about seeing such information disclosed is that you can reach your own conclusions about them.
| Your outrage at the earnings list is founded entirely in ignorance, since you have no additional information about the roles and responsibilities assigned to any given employee on that list, nor even how much of the amount given was overtime. In many cases, the amount disclosed is not simply base salary, but base salary plus a significant quantity of overtime. This is likely the case for all the operators and special constables that appear on the list. Despite the wage rates that people in this thread are describing as offensive, the TTC has significant difficulty recruiting and keeping enough operators to reach its service targets. Similar shortages exist in its vehicle, track and facilities maintenance departments, where TTC HR contends with a severe labour shortage in the skilled trades. |
As ignorant as my cursory view might be for you, I most certainly can only speak for positions I do know something about. And, just as a note I seriously doubt overtime is calculated into these figures, it generally isn't from what I've seen of other publically released salary information found elsewhere online.
| Anyway, payroll taking up the lion's share of operating expenses is typical for nearly any organization. The TTC's 75% payroll as a portion of total operating budget compares favourably to both the Toronto Police (94%) and a typical suburban school board (Halton Board of Education, 85%). Payroll at Transit Chicago is also about 75%, New York City Transit's is 78%. |
It's 90%, as noted earlier.
| And that takes me back to school bus drivers. First of all, school bus drivers are criminally underpaid, and they're in that situation for a reason. The demographics of that workforce are primarily stay-at-home mothers and retirees with little else in the way of skills or other prospects in the job market. The positions are largely split-shift part-time usually working just four or so hours a day, and are often un- or poorly unionized. School bus transportation companies don't have to pay their drivers anything more because they view them as passive, desperate and eminently replaceable. |
Yeah, but we were not talking about school bus drivers now were we originally? They should be unionized, and many other trades and positions should be as well.
| You can push your politics of resentment all you want, but while there's no shortage of people to fill entry- or mid-level positions at banks, there is a shortage of people willing to drive a TTC bus all day for $26/hour. While the union puts some upward pressure on salaries, the labour shortage would only be worse if the Commission were paying operators less, and if we were capping operator pay at $16/hour we wouldn't have any buses on the road at all. |
Only you possess the masterful art of taking something like an opinion and attempting to elevate it to something 'political'. It's not political, its an opinion and don't try to plaster it otherwise. As much as I don't have first hand experience questioning such pay and responsibility, you certainly haven't proven to me that you know much about how banks and hospitals work either. If you really did, you'd never enter a discussion with such inflammatory language in the first place, and you'd take your own advice -- of stating people are paid how much their experience/responsibilities are 'worth' including how much they are in demand. It doesn't work that way, especially when you move lower down the 'food chain'.
| It's not wrong to pay people a healthy salary for providing a vital public service, regardless of what education (or lack thereof) they required for the job or whatever negative anecdotes you should choose to cherrypick from your personal experiences with select members of the transit union. Welcome to labour market supply and demand. |
Thanks for the smashing insight Kowalski. I know I wasn't as smart as you to figure that one out on my own, I mean how could I? Your telling me about paying people decently for their labour? I most certainly couldn't have figured that out being from a working class background with family members who are tradesman and laborers (note: NOT bus drivers) or from reading salary lists, or consulting with people outside of my own area -- oh yeah I forgot, that's cherry picking.
Cherry picking vs. Limitations of knowing everything! I don't think I can argue with that...
| Full Disclosure: I do not work for the TTC, nor do I know anyone who does. For the past fifteen months I've been riding the 36 Finch and 42 Cummer buses on a daily basis (oftentimes substituting the 39 Finch East for the 42). My salary is significantly less than that of an experienced TTC operator, but for some reason I'm not angry about this. |
I don't work for the TTC either, but know of two people who worked in administration. I take the bus too and it generally makes me late for everything. I've always taken the bus/streetcar/subway and know the system inside out from commuting on it. It pales in comparison to other systems in other cities in the world and since its a public system I believe everyone in this thread is entitled to their opinion, regardless of how you may disagree with it.
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| | | Re: Sheppard subway line might get mothballed
<Reply # 57 on 7/29/2007 5:31 AM >
| | | | | And, just as a note I seriously doubt overtime is calculated into these figures, it generally isn't from what I've seen of other publically released salary information found elsewhere online. |
Overtime has to be factored in; no operator/collector could break the $100k mark without having overtime factored in, considering that the top salary for any operator/collector is under $27 and hour. To breach $100k without any overtime at $27, you'd need to work 3704 hours, or the equivalent of 92.6 40 hour work weeks.
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| | Re: Sheppard subway line might get mothballed
<Reply # 58 on 7/29/2007 5:39 AM >
| | | | Posted by Archer
Overtime has to be factored in; no operator/collector could break the $100k mark without having overtime factored in, considering that the top salary for any operator/collector is under $27 and hour. To breach $100k without any overtime at $27, you'd need to work 3704 hours, or the equivalent of 92.6 40 hour work weeks.
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I don't think there are any drivers/operators/collectors on that list. I could be wrong though, I'm too lazy to scroll through the whole thing now, but a break down would be interesting. Oh well.
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| | | Re: Sheppard subway line might get mothballed
<Reply # 59 on 7/29/2007 10:46 AM >
| | | | Posted by Air 33
I don't think there are any drivers/operators/collectors on that list. I could be wrong though, I'm too lazy to scroll through the whole thing now, but a break down would be interesting. Oh well.
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It listed more than a couple of operators on there, which I believe is the term used to describe bus drivers/subway operators/streetcar drivers. I'm not sure about collectors, but collectors are commonly operators with many years of seniority. It's not a "bottom of the job chain" position.
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