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 Ninjalicious
    
Gone, but always with us
Location: Toronto
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< on 12/9/2003 3:01 PM >
|  | | | For the record, Avatar-X has the ability to read messages sent through this board's private mail system, so you may want to use e-mail if you want a greater degree of privacy. (Moderators other than Avatar can't read private mail, so if you're just insulting me, PM away.)
Ninj
http://www.infiltration.org
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Ben
Noble Donor
Location: Mojave Desert
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 1 on 12/9/2003 3:19 PM >
|  | | | I'm sure the same is true of e-mail sent through the board, so it would be good to first get a real e-mail address.
Then PGP.
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asdafaf
Location: oe'r yonder
I have always been here before.
| | | Re: Privacy of Private Mail
<Reply # 2 on 12/9/2003 5:05 PM >
| | | | More to the point, Avatar-X has not only the ability to read our "Private" Messages, but he also actually does so whenever he sees fit.
Fair warning.
He has also admittedly, on at least one occasion, hacked into a user's personal (non-board) email account, by using the password they used for this board.
I strongly suggest using a different password here than you use in your email account, or elsewhere.
I'm looking for software engineers to hire at Amazon. |
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Crossfire
 
Location: Kay-Dub
Gender: Male
Don't call it a comeback, I've been here for years.
| |  | | | Re: Privacy of Private Mail
<Reply # 3 on 12/9/2003 5:12 PM >
| | | | Posted by Ben
I'm sure the same is true of e-mail sent through the board, so it would be good to first get a real e-mail address.
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I'm not so sure if this is necessarily true...
C.
Disgruntled. |
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Ben
Noble Donor
Location: Mojave Desert
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 4 on 12/9/2003 5:39 PM >
| | | | Posted by Crossfire
Posted by Ben
I'm sure the same is true of e-mail sent through the board, so it would be good to first get a real e-mail address.
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I'm not so sure if this is necessarily true...
C.
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Why not? The data is being passed through a script which then forms headers and sends it to the mail server. It's no different than a PM, just changes what it does with the data.
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Avatar-X
 
Alpha Husky
Location: West Coast
Gender: Male
yay!
| | | Re: Privacy of Private Mail
<Reply # 5 on 12/9/2003 6:52 PM >
| | | | Sigh....
1. I can read PMs because they go into the mysql database, just like all other information stored in this forum (like threads, posts, pictures you look at, locations, etc). But, it's not exactly easy for me to do so, because the data is stored in raw form in the DB, and also because there is a vast number of PMs sent daily (about 250 a day). So, yes, it is possible for me to read your PMs, but I really have no reason to.
The one exception in which I read some of Max Action's PMs is because there was evidence of a leak in forum security, and I simply needed to trace the source of the leak.
2. The "forum email" function is NOT stored in a database. When you click to email someone, it creates and sends an email the instant you click "Send". The text is not stored in a database, nor is it stored anywhere else, except temporarily in server memory.
3. I've not "hacked" into anyone's hotmail account. At one time, 6 months ago, I used the password that a new user provided for their account to check out their hotmail account (no hacking -- they GAVE me their password) to confirm that this user was indeed the Rob guy who had been terrorizing the forum. It was, so I logged out and then removed his forum account.
In general, this forum is not very secure. Your passwords are sent in plain text across the internet, and stored plainly in cookies. They are also emailed to you in plain text. You should not expect a great deal of security from this or any other forum. You should also never use the same password in more than one place.
huskies - such fluff. |
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Asher Archive
Pikachu
Gender: Female
| | | Re: Privacy of Private Mail
<Reply # 6 on 12/9/2003 8:12 PM >
|  | | | Posted by Avatar-X
3. I've not "hacked" into anyone's hotmail account. At one time, 6 months ago, I used the password that a new user provided for their account to check out their hotmail account (no hacking -- they GAVE me their password) to confirm that this user was indeed the Rob guy who had been terrorizing the forum. It was, so I logged out and then removed his forum account.
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I seem to remember you telling me all about how the 'stupid' guy use the same password for both his account here and at hotmail and then not just checking if it was him but snickering about the contents of his e-mail account and his private information.
Or maybe it was some other UE forum admin that use to hang out in #to2600.
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asdafaf
Location: oe'r yonder
I have always been here before.
| | | Re: Privacy of Private Mail
<Reply # 7 on 12/9/2003 8:32 PM >
| | | | Posted by Avatar-X
I read some of Max Action's PMs is because there was evidence of a leak in forum security
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"A leak in forum security?" Puuuuuuuuuulease!
Some decent folk simply told me that you were talking shit about me and threatening to ban me in the Administrator's forum. That is NOT an issue of "forum security."
Get a life.
I'm looking for software engineers to hire at Amazon. |
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Crossfire
Location: Kay-Dub
Gender: Male
Don't call it a comeback, I've been here for years.
| | | | | Re: Privacy of Private Mail
<Reply # 8 on 12/9/2003 8:47 PM >
| | | | Christ... you all need to fucking grow up. I feel like I'm surrounded by a kindergarten class, all blubbering away and pointing fingers.
C.
Disgruntled. |
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Asher Archive
Pikachu
Gender: Female
| | | Re: Privacy of Private Mail
<Reply # 9 on 12/9/2003 8:53 PM >
| | | | Posted by Crossfire
Christ... you all need to fucking grow up. I feel like I'm surrounded by a kindergarten class, all blubbering away and pointing fingers.
C.
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What exactly are you ranting on about? I'd think that most of if not all the comments here should be posted. People that use this forum have every right in the world to know that their PMs maybe read or that their passwords are known to someone that many people don't trust. Now do please explain what this 'pointing fingers' is about.
As for growing up, I wouldn't think that cursing at people will do a whole lot. Perhaps if you tried to talk to people rather than just be derogatory at them as that doesn't often get any point across.
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Crossfire
Location: Kay-Dub
Gender: Male
Don't call it a comeback, I've been here for years.
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<Reply # 10 on 12/9/2003 9:09 PM >
| | | | Posted by Asher Archive
As for growing up, I wouldn't think that cursing at people will do a whole lot. Perhaps if you tried to talk to people rather than just be derogatory at them as that doesn't often get any point across.
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True... and you are the foremost proponent of not being derogatory. ^.^
Sorry for getting frustrated, but this is ridiculous. The issue of forum security was not the conversation about the possibility of booting Max from the forum, the issue was that the contents of a private forum were taken out of the private forum. From there, it became a finger pointing contest.
To me, it's all mind-bogglingly jeunesse. I don't know why it's spilled out of the Admin forum into the public forum. Bringing it out into the forum proper seems like sour grapes to me, and not at all proactive - regardless of how it was made to seem.
C.
Disgruntled. |
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Asher Archive
Pikachu
Gender: Female
| | | Re: Privacy of Private Mail
<Reply # 11 on 12/9/2003 9:14 PM >
| | | | Posted by Crossfire
Posted by Asher Archive
As for growing up, I wouldn't think that cursing at people will do a whole lot. Perhaps if you tried to talk to people rather than just be derogatory at them as that doesn't often get any point across.
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True... and you are the foremost proponent of not being derogatory. ^.^
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Amazing. You just miss these things. They bloody well just go in one ear and out the other, don't they? Do you even read the posts? O_o
Posted by Crossfire
Sorry for getting frustrated, but this is ridiculous. The issue of forum security was not the conversation about the possibility of booting Max from the forum, the issue was that the contents of a private forum were taken out of the private forum. From there, it became a finger pointing contest.
To me, it's all mind-bogglingly jeunesse. I don't know why it's spilled out of the Admin forum into the public forum. Bringing it out into the forum proper seems like sour grapes to me, and not at all proactive - regardless of how it was made to seem.
C.
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I think that Ninj had every reason to post this here. It is stupid that Av reads PMs, no admin should do that regardless of the situation. As well, I don't think that Ninj was being sour about anything and he would have no reason to be. Sites like UEC, Infiltration, UEM and the Wraiths are represent by this forum and if Av is going to behave in such a manner there are some who will speak up and warn others or pull out all together. This isn't about what was going on in the Admin Forum this is about not being able to trust the person running this site with your PMs.
[last edit 12/9/2003 9:23 PM by Asher Archive - edited 2 times]
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Jester
Location: Vancouver,B.C. Canada
Gender: Male
Always just out of sight...
| | | Re: Privacy of Private Mail
<Reply # 12 on 12/9/2003 9:18 PM >
|  | | | I'm a big advocate of things like this, which at it's core, IS an issue relevant to every forum member, being publicly discussed. people do have a right to know that their privacy is in theory, compromised.
It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf. |
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Asher Archive
Pikachu
Gender: Female
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<Reply # 13 on 12/9/2003 9:19 PM >
| | | | Posted by Jester
I'm a big advocate of things like this, which at it's core, IS an issue relevant to every forum member, being publicly discussed. people do have a right to know that their privacy is in theory, compromised.
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Couldn't have said it better myself, thank you. ^-^
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Jester
Location: Vancouver,B.C. Canada
Gender: Male
Always just out of sight...
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<Reply # 14 on 12/9/2003 9:31 PM >
| | | | I see mistakes made on both sides(or however many sides there are to this whole fiasco). When everyone is partly wrong, nobody is fully right, except me. But I am willing to side with whichever party promises me comely lasses at the convention. Sure it's unfair, since Asher herself is a comely lass, but life's not fair. At least i'm trying to help 
It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf. |
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Crossfire
Location: Kay-Dub
Gender: Male
Don't call it a comeback, I've been here for years.
| | | | | Re: Privacy of Private Mail
<Reply # 15 on 12/9/2003 9:47 PM >
| | | | Posted by Asher Archive
Amazing. You just miss these things. They bloody well just go in one ear and out the other, don't they? Do you even read the posts? O_o
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I know exactly what you said, and I read the whole post. I guess you just didn't understand. I'm sorry, it's difficult to listen to someone deride being derogatory when you, on several occasions, have been derogatory towards others. It's a deadly circle, and we have to stop it, but who's willing not to get in the last word?
Posted by Asher Archive
I think that Ninj had every reason to post this here. It is stupid that Av reads PMs, no admin should do that regardless of the situation.
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The more I listen to your argument, the more I see where you are coming from. You are right that mistakes were made. I agree that things (or, admins) went places they shouldn't have gone, I agree that it should be made public because of it's relevance to every forum member, and now it's up to all of us to get things back on track.
Unfortunately, I have no idea what the possible solutions could be.
Posted by Jester
But I am willing to side with whichever party promises me comely lasses at the convention.
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I'm with you, brother.
C.
Disgruntled. |
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DarkTreader
Gender: Male
| | Re: Privacy of Private Mail
<Reply # 16 on 12/10/2003 12:00 AM >
| | | | Posted by Jester
But I am willing to side with whichever party promises me comely lasses at the convention |
Comely lasses, eh? I'll see who my friends can wrangle up =P
Losers go home... winners go home and fuck the prom queen |
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'Dukes
Noble Donor
Gender: Male
At least someone llikes me
| | | Re: Privacy of Private Mail
<Reply # 17 on 12/10/2003 12:07 AM >
| | | | Posted by Johnny 5
More to the point, Avatar-X has not only the ability to read our "Private" Messages, but he also actually does so whenever he sees fit.
Fair warning.
He has also admittedly, on at least one occasion, hacked into a user's personal (non-board) email account, by using the password they used for this board.
I strongly suggest using a different password here than you use in your email account, or elsewhere.
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That's quite an accusation. You better be able to substantiate that or else you'll turn a lot of people off to this site. You're also accusing Avatar x of "illicit " activity. If you can prove this, fine, otherwise, take a flying leap.
I got your tour winner right here pussies, at least he'd crash out trying. |
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Asher Archive
Pikachu
Gender: Female
| | | Re: Privacy of Private Mail
<Reply # 18 on 12/10/2003 12:15 AM >
| | | | Posted by tonydukes
Posted by Johnny 5
More to the point, Avatar-X has not only the ability to read our "Private" Messages, but he also actually does so whenever he sees fit.
Fair warning.
He has also admittedly, on at least one occasion, hacked into a user's personal (non-board) email account, by using the password they used for this board.
I strongly suggest using a different password here than you use in your email account, or elsewhere.
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That's quite an accusation. You better be able to substantiate that or else you'll turn a lot of people off to this site. You're also accusing Avatar x of "illicit " activity. If you can prove this, fine, otherwise, take a flying leap.
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I don't know exactly what you're taking issuse with but Av has for a fact read private messages of forum members. As far as the hacking thing goes, well, he was chatting with me on ICQ as it happened and from what he said the fellow wasn't allowing it. He made comments about the contents of the bloke in box in various public forum including his taste in pr0n. As nice as that is. :/
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'Dukes
Noble Donor
Gender: Male
At least someone llikes me
| | | Re: Privacy of Private Mail
<Reply # 19 on 12/10/2003 1:01 AM >
| | | | He can read all the private messages he wants, after all it's his forum, provided courtesty of himself. But this guy has insinuated that he has checked private email accounts. That's a serious accusation. 1) what would be the motivation for doing so? 2) That would be wrong, if true.
That's why I told John he better be able to subsantiate his claim or else people will leave this site in droves.
Reason? If it's true the only motivation for doing so would be will bad intentions in mind.
So back to the original claim: Substantiate your claim!
I guess I don't understand where you're coming from. Are you saying the forum admin is indeed what John claims? Or otherwise. Now I'm confused.
[last edit 12/10/2003 1:03 AM by 'Dukes - edited 1 times]
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