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 sebastian
   
Location: muthafuckin'downtown 514
 |  |  | La grosse boule
< on 3/8/2006 9:39 PM >
|  | | | heille vous autres!
Quelqun m'a dit qu'il y a quelques annees, lorsqu'il etait jeune, qu'il allait explorer et s'amuser dans la grosse sphere sur l'ile St-Helene (sorry j'oublis tout le temps son nom!!!!) qui etait completement a l'abandon... Vraiment c/est vrai??? Wow, j'ai aucun souvenir de l'avoir vu en decombre...?? Si oui quelqu'un ya des photos? J'adorais voir cette grosse structure en decomposition...
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PhoBac
 
Nobler Donor
Location: Across Nun's Island
Gender: Male
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| | Re: La grosse boule
<Reply # 1 on 3/8/2006 10:14 PM >
| | | | Je savais que la grosse boule avait un revêtement en plastique qui a brûlé... Mais aller jouer dedans!!!
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Emperor Wang
Location: On an island, in a river
Fetish? What fetish?
| | Re: La grosse boule
<Reply # 2 on 3/8/2006 10:46 PM >
| | | | Yeah, that was the old American pavillion from Expo 67. A Buckminster Fuller designed goedesic dome. The acrylic skin burned up in 1976. I think it was due to a welding accident while the mini-rail was being dismantled? It sat empty and overgrown with weeds until 1995 when the Biosphere opened. I remember climbing the stairs up to the viewing platform once. It was pretty badly neglected in those intervening years.
The Biosphere website has some nice history pages on the dome.
E: http://biosphere.e...S73DCCD17-0_En.htm
F: http://biosphere.e...S73DCCD17-1_Fr.htm
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sebastian
Location: muthafuckin'downtown 514
| | | Re: La grosse boule
<Reply # 3 on 3/8/2006 10:50 PM >
| | | | Posted by MapMan
It sat empty and overgrown with weeds until 1995 when the Biosphere opened.
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Yep, sounds like my friend told me. He said the giant dome was full of plants & weeds, with missing windows and an incredible natural light beams passing through the holes. Too bad I missed that  ...I'd love to see some pics when the sphere was deserted.
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nostra-YOUPPI!
Umpire
Location: Shahre:'on Kaybec
Bonsoir et cest partie
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<Reply # 4 on 3/8/2006 11:24 PM >
| | | | missing windows is an understatement. there were NONE left. i was in there in 1992, the frame of the escalator (for expo 67 it was forced flow you took it to the top and walked down to ground level on the stairs from floor to floor) it was the worlds longest escalator at the time. after the fire cleanup the place was stripped to bare platforms with railings and the esclator frame had stairs installed in it. The frame was black for years in the mid 80s at some point it was painted but nothing else was done, there was a busload of rock videos filmed in there in the 80s. in the 80s most of the expo pavillions that werent sent back or demolished for the basin and racetrack were still standing but in ruins it was prime time for explorers
[last edit 3/8/2006 11:24 PM by nostra-YOUPPI! - edited 1 times]
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sebastian
Location: muthafuckin'downtown 514
| | | Re: La grosse boule
<Reply # 5 on 3/8/2006 11:33 PM >
| | | | Posted by nostra-YOUPPI!
missing windows is an understatement. there were NONE left. i was in there in 1992
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Lucky bastard!!! 
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cjb
 
Location: Sept-îles/Saint-John's/Corner Brooks/Montréal/Sydney
Gender: Male
| | | Re: La grosse boule
<Reply # 6 on 3/8/2006 11:38 PM >
| | | | Je sais qu'il y a un site sur Expo 67 kekpart avec des vieilles photos de l'endroit en ruines. Ça avait pas l'air palpitant, juste une grosse structure avec des déchets un peu partout..
http://www.magazin...dossiers/index.htm |
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maZe
Location: Montreal/Moncton/Ottawa
Gender: Female
"All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed" - Sean O'Casey
| |  | | Re: La grosse boule
<Reply # 7 on 3/9/2006 5:05 AM >
| | | | Bonjour,
je travaille sur un livre sur l'héritage de l'expo 67. Mapman et Nostra ont déjà bien résumé le tout. Bon, je me permets quelques détails de plus pour les maniaques :
1-Pavillon des États-Unis pour l'Expo 67, dôme géodésique designé par Fuller (son plus gros jamais construit d'ailleurs). à l'Origine, le pavillon de l'URSS devait être construit immédiatement à côté mais la guerre froide entre les 2 pays a fait qu'aucun des deux pays ont accepté d'être un à côté de l'autre. Le pavillon de l'URSS a donc été construit de en face d'où le pavillon des USA mais sur l'île Notre-Dame (en face) et le pont reliant les 2 pavillons a été nommé le pont/passerelle du Cosmos puisqu'on était alors en pleine course vers l'espace. Les 2 pays n'ont pas accepté que les entrées des pavillons ne se fassent face, l'entrée des pavillons pointaient donc tous les 2 dans la même direction, leur donnant l'impression d'être côté à côte et non face à face. (Le pavillon de l'URSS est depuis 1968 à Moscou et peut être visité encore aujourd'hui).
2-Une bonne partie du focus de l'exposition intérieure du pavillon des USA était focusé sur la course spatiale. On y trouvait une capsule d'astronautes et d'autres trucs du genre.
3-Une grande toile de plastique recouvrait le dome et le mini-rail de l'Expo passait à travers le pavillon (rentrant et sortant à travers la structure)
4-Bien que les USA ont ramené avec eux le contenu du pavillon il a été possible de visiter une exposition plus "nature et plante" à l'intérieur du dôme en 68, 69, 70 et 71 dans un effort du maire Drapeau de garder l'esprit d'Expo vivant et nommant alors son exposition "Terre des hommes" (sans la mention officielle Expo).
5-Le pavillon a ensuite été abandonné et alors que des soudeurs s'affairaient à souder l'espace où entrait le mini-rail de l'Expo dans le dôme, la péllicule plastique a pris feu.
6-le pavillon (comme à peu près tous les pavillons d'Expo restants) a ensuite été officiellement abandonné
7-On retrouve dans les sous-sols du dôme des salles de cinéma qui ont servis au tournage d'un nombre exponentiels de vidéos rocks...
8-En 1992, le gouvernement fédéral a décidé de faire de quoi avec ça...Tiens, pourquoi pas une espèce de biodôme et de centre d'interprétation de l'eau du St-Laurent???
9-Tout le pavillon n'a pas été rénové/réparé. Une plate-forme (celle d'où partait le fameux "plus long" escalier mobile) est toujours abandonnée, tout comme certains des sous-sols.
10-des tonnes de films/séries télé ont été tournés là depuis la rénovation (Diva, Idole Instantannée, etc.). Le dôme était un des clues finaux dans la finale de la dernière saison de The Amazing Race. "It looks like one big golf ball" a été le commentaire d'un des participants...
11-On peut louer le pavillon pour des réceptions ou des mariages (oui, j'y ai pensé en titi pour le miens en 2001).
12-Lorsque c'était abandonné, et encore maintenant, les pompiers de la Ville de Montréal (et leur détachement "araignées") s'entrainaient/s'entrainent sur la structure l'été.
13-l'acoustique dans la structure est unique!
J'ai des photos prisent pendant le feu, je les ajouterai demain. J'ai passé ma jeunesse dans les pavillons abandonnés de l'Expo et puis ben, oui, je suis obsédée. Voilà.
Des liens :
http://www.collect.../expo/index-f.html
http://archives.ra...e_societe/expo_67/
http://expo67.ncf.ca/
[last edit 3/9/2006 5:09 AM by maZe - edited 1 times]
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cjb
Location: Sept-îles/Saint-John's/Corner Brooks/Montréal/Sydney
Gender: Male
| | | Re: La grosse boule
<Reply # 8 on 3/9/2006 7:51 AM >
| | | | maZe, y'as pas assez de passionné(e)s comme toi! j'ai bien hâte de voir ce livre! prévu pour quand?
http://www.magazin...dossiers/index.htm |
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sebastian
Location: muthafuckin'downtown 514
| | | Re: La grosse boule
<Reply # 9 on 3/9/2006 3:01 PM >
| | | | Posted by cjb
juste une grosse structure avec des déchets un peu partout..
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mais j'aime ca moi les dechets
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maZe
Location: Montreal/Moncton/Ottawa
Gender: Female
"All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed" - Sean O'Casey
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<Reply # 11 on 3/9/2006 3:22 PM >
| | | | Le livre est prévu pour lancement en avril 2007 (marquant le 40e anniveraire de l'ouverture de l'Expo).
Quelques photos que j'ai :
pendant Expo la nuit :
À la fin du feu (on voit l'échaffaudage des soudeurs et donc où a commencé le feu):
le feu :
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nel58
 
Location: montreal (st-henri) Qc
Gender: Female
yep..something's under..let's check ! (RIP Joséphine ,april 1998-october 2010 )
| | Re: La grosse boule
<Reply # 12 on 3/9/2006 4:26 PM >
| | | | Ah je me rappele que je passais sur le pont Jacques Cartier quand ça commençais à brûler...
Horrible et si triste...c'était comme l'apocalypse !
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sebastian
Location: muthafuckin'downtown 514
| | | Re: La grosse boule
<Reply # 13 on 3/9/2006 4:40 PM >
| | | | Wouuuuuuuuuaaaaa... Ecoeurant ces photos en feu, c'est la toute premiere fois que je vois ca!!!!
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Emperor Wang
Location: On an island, in a river
Fetish? What fetish?
| | Re: La grosse boule
<Reply # 14 on 3/9/2006 6:45 PM >
| | | | maZe probably knows all about this, but it'll mention it for the other Expo nerds...
There was a great Expo 67 memorial album produced in 1968. It's a large blue coffee table style book called "Universal & International Exhibition, Montreal, 1967". 367 bilingual pages, lots of colour and black and white photos, detailed writeups on the individual pavilions, plus chapters on the planning and logistics of the whole thing. Published by Thomas Nelson & Sons (Canada) Ltd. I found it in my local library's reference section under "607.34 U".
And yeah, that was one awesome post, maZe. Keep 'em coming
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maZe
Location: Montreal/Moncton/Ottawa
Gender: Female
"All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed" - Sean O'Casey
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<Reply # 15 on 3/9/2006 7:25 PM >
| | | | yes. there is also a black book published on the Expo ("Remember Expo" it's called I believe if my memory is right). The Black book is pretty easy to find. There is also - the most difficult one to find- a brown book on Expo, which was produced by the City of Montreal to give as a present to head of states and other dignitaries. Great, great book.
There is also "La petite histoire d'Expo 67" done by Yves Jasmin in 1992 or 97 if I remember correctly. great book too. We learn in there that Pierre Bourque was in charge of the trees at Expo 67, one of his first jobs! there isn't enough pics in there though...anyway.
Also, there is the official guide of Expo 67 available, which you can buy on ebay for 10$ most of the times and even better, there is the 1968 guide of Terre des hommes...There's already a few pavillions missing in the 1968 books.
That's cause legally, each country owned its pavillion and at the end of Expo 67, countries were suppose to demolish their pavillions or remove them from the premises. Some countries left with their pavillion (USSR, Cuba, etc.) but Mayor Drapeau asked each country to "give" its pavillion to the City of Montreal so it could keep the Expo 67 spirit alive in the upcoming summers. Most countries did but of course, they removed all the stuff inside their pavillions.
So Terre des hommes was nice but all pavillions were completely empty (with a few rare exceptions...). Pavillions of Expo 67 and sculptures are now all over the world. Cuba pavillion is still accessible in Cuba, same with the one for the USSR. A pavillion (can't remember which country - Yougoslavia I think) ended up being a cultural center in Newfoundland and can still be visited today. Some of the art in now in Calgary, the "Family Tree" sculpture is now in Métro Lionel-Groulx, Alex Calder's sculpture was moved a few years ago - in 1991-92 I think - (there is almost exactly the same sculpture in Berlin, also by Calder), some of the express train of Expo 67 ended up transporting mining staff in Russia...
Pavillions were bulldozed to make way for the Olympic bassin in 1976 and for the F1 circuit. Lots of the remaining pavillions were demolished in the late 80's. Some were used again, after being left abandonned, for the Floralies in 81, then abandonned again. Some are still standing today, yet in VERY bad shape (Jamaica being worst example as the exterior walls are falling in pieces) and abandonned. And with La Ronde that was sold to a private american company - Six Flags (aka Sick flags) - well, that was the end of the 1800's carrousel and a few other remains of Expo.
I've got thousands of pics of Expo 67 and tons of memorabilias, I guess I could add a few pics in the UEDB...some of the abandonned pavillions in the 80's...
Ok. I'll shut up now.
[last edit 3/9/2006 7:29 PM by maZe - edited 1 times]
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maZe
Location: Montreal/Moncton/Ottawa
Gender: Female
"All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed" - Sean O'Casey
| | | | Re: La grosse boule
<Reply # 16 on 3/9/2006 7:45 PM >
| | | | Tiens, une bonne photo de l'intérieur du pavillon américain, avec le Mono-rail de l'Expo qui passe dans le pavillon et le plus long escalier mécanique au monde (à l'époque).
http://www.uer.ca/...al.asp?picid=56175
J'ai déjà mis une 50aine de photos dans la DB mais je vais ajouter les photos du feu...
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sebastian
Location: muthafuckin'downtown 514
| | | Re: La grosse boule
<Reply # 17 on 3/9/2006 8:03 PM >
| | | | Posted by maZe
Ok. I'll shut up now.
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Pourquoi? C'est toi qui a ecris le plus d'infos pertinants. J'ai creer le thread pour ca!
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Emperor Wang
Location: On an island, in a river
Fetish? What fetish?
| | Re: La grosse boule
<Reply # 18 on 3/9/2006 10:20 PM >
| | | | One from the book I mentioned...
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Ti Pit
Location: Laval
Gender: Male
| | Re: La grosse boule
<Reply # 19 on 3/10/2006 2:54 AM >
|  | | | great stuff ! thanks for all the info and images
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