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 lopix
   
Location: Ontario
Gender: Male
I survive on the poison you're feeding me
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<Reply # 20 on 10/3/2005 11:09 PM >
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Yes, please!!! Save us!!! We are but delicate souls!!
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Now now, that is not the point. A simple question was asked, Av answered it. That should be the end of it. An unwarranted comment was made, but the best thing to do is ignore and find another thread about kittens or bukkake \-p
I'm not angry - just focused :: No human opinion is higher than the truth
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TurboZutek
   
King Dick
Location: Scotland
Gender: Male
Giant octo-penised rapephant
| |  | | Re: Can PMs be read by moderators?
<Reply # 21 on 10/4/2005 7:42 AM >
| | | | Posted by lopix
Now now, that is not the point. A simple question was asked, Av answered it. That should be the end of it. An unwarranted comment was made, but the best thing to do is ignore and find another thread about kittens or bukkake \-p
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The point I'm making is we are all big boys and girls - if the mods haven't locked the thread yet, it's because they feel there might be some additional mileage to be had, or points to be raised.
If I wanted another thread on either kittens or bukkake, I'd post one! 
Chris...
PS: Bukkittens?
We all had ostriches. My dad had an ostrich farm! I remember one day someone came in and said the high altitude bombing of Kosovo had been a limited success, so we all went out and celebrated… by killing an ostrich and boiling it in kiwi fruit. |
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atomx
 
Location: Brighton, ON
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Can PMs be read by moderators?
<Reply # 22 on 10/4/2005 1:47 PM >
| | | | What you have to see is that people are people, and they become curious at times. I'm sure that seicer has had some bad coming with people that don't have the morals to hold themselves back. Not judging anyone, but we've all looked somewhere we shouldn't, haven't we?
People by being just people are, at times, untrustworthy, and unfortunately this may include the mods. I however am a very trusting person, and I do trust them.
[last edit 10/4/2005 1:51 PM by atomx - edited 2 times]
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Richard Cook |
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andrea
Location: Baltimore MD
Gender: Female
Apparently, I am heinous.
| | Re: Can PMs be read by moderators?
<Reply # 23 on 10/4/2005 3:03 PM >
| | | | Posted by atomx
What you have to see is that people are people, and they become curious at times. I'm sure that seicer has had some bad coming with people that don't have the morals to hold themselves back. Not judging anyone, but we've all looked somewhere we shouldn't, haven't we?
People by being just people are, at times, untrustworthy, and unfortunately this may include the mods. I however am a very trusting person, and I do trust them.
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Yes mods are people, not robots. I don't think any of the mods here are that low. Some people might not like them personally, but that doesn't mean they all liars and sneaks.
This isn't boot camp and you are not a ninja. But you sure look like an idiot in that outfit.
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Crossfire
Location: Kay-Dub
Gender: Male
Don't call it a comeback, I've been here for years.
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<Reply # 24 on 10/4/2005 5:05 PM >
| | | | Posted by turbozutek
PS: Bukkittens?
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Tee hee...
There's no reason to lock this thread. If it spiralled into meaningless drivel then yes, it could be locked. I don't think a thread should be locked just because some of us are having a disagreement over something. I'm not going to cry and lock a thread just because someone makes a comment I don't like.
C.
Disgruntled. |
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Emma Peel
Location: Ahowah
Gender: Female
Ghosting you like you've never been ghosted before.
| | Re: Can PMs be read by moderators?
<Reply # 25 on 10/5/2005 1:01 PM >
| | | | Posted by andrea
Yes mods are people, not robots. |
What?!?!?!? I thought ... well, nevermind what I thought. It was dirty. ;) Now, let us all go bra shopping and/or UEing (depending on whether its andrea or boys) to make things peaceful once more.
Love,
Zem
Sorry, I probably forgot my <sarcasm> tags. |
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andrea
Location: Baltimore MD
Gender: Female
Apparently, I am heinous.
| | Re: Can PMs be read by moderators?
<Reply # 26 on 10/5/2005 3:00 PM >
| | | | Posted by Emma Peel
What?!?!?!? I thought ... well, nevermind what I thought. It was dirty. ;) Now, let us all go bra shopping and/or UEing (depending on whether its andrea or boys) to make things peaceful once more.
Love,
Zem
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We can do both 
This isn't boot camp and you are not a ninja. But you sure look like an idiot in that outfit.
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David E
Location: San Francisco, CA
Gender: Male
Do not believe everything you see on TV.
| | | Re: Can PMs be read by moderators?
<Reply # 27 on 10/5/2005 5:11 PM >
| | | | It should not matter whether they can read PMs or not. If it is not UER worthy or you feel uncomfortable about maybe being called on what you sent, then don't do it in an area where Avatar-X or a Moderator can read it. It is called common sense. It would be nice if they would never read a PM and we could expect a smidgen of privacy, but this site does belong to Avatar-X and ultimately he can do as he sees fit, whether we agree or not. AS to the reading, I think it should only be done when someone is threatened or maybe when there is a legal issue where this site could get shut down by the ISP. But that is just my two cents and they don't matter here.
David
FREE THE UER 6! DOWN WITH UER LACKEYS! And to the mod that changed my sig, blow me! |
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Crossfire
Location: Kay-Dub
Gender: Male
Don't call it a comeback, I've been here for years.
| | | | | Re: Can PMs be read by moderators?
<Reply # 28 on 10/5/2005 5:23 PM >
| | | | I think those are the only situations in which Av would even consider digging a PM out of the code. Moderators do not have any sort of access to read PMs, unless we were at Av's house and he showed us how. Otherwise, they're as private as anything can be on the internet.
C.
Disgruntled. |
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Kay O. Sweaver
Location: Montreal, Quebec
Gender: Male
Happiness is saying yes more often than no.
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<Reply # 29 on 10/5/2005 7:58 PM >
| | | | Av, I'd like to give you kudos for admitting that you have the ability and perhaps abused it in the past. I appreciate your honesty on that.
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Amy Smith is an infected slut |
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Avatar-X
Alpha Husky
Location: West Coast
Gender: Male
yay!
| | | Re: Can PMs be read by moderators?
<Reply # 30 on 10/5/2005 11:46 PM >
| | | | Yes, I did -- some private information was leaked out of the Admin board and I used my database access to check the PMs of the moderators. But I wouldn't do it again.
-av
huskies - such fluff. |
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HillbillyHorus
Location: Charlottesville Virginia
Gender: Male
Im in ur government, killin ur d00dz
| | | Re: Can PMs be read by moderators?
<Reply # 31 on 10/13/2005 8:06 PM >
| | | | I found a security flaw with the PMs. Before I say what it is I want it known that this was a complete accident. I wasn't trying to read people's PMs.
I was looking at the online users thing, and clicked on a forum. I must have accidentaly clicked on something else because it brought me to a page with someone writing a PM. I could see the message, and it even looked like I could edit it. I didn't read what it said, I think it was just something about a UE meet anyway.
You can't fall off a mountain. |
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Stewie
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
Gender: Male
kill your idols
| | | Re: Can PMs be read by moderators?
<Reply # 32 on 10/13/2005 8:25 PM >
| | | | I've done that before and it just took me to a "send a pm to soandso" page. I didn't see any message.
> The hierarchy of power dictates that the person with the most power does the least amount of work and retains the highest benefit. |
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seicer
Location: New York
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Can PMs be read by moderators?
<Reply # 33 on 10/13/2005 8:43 PM >
| | | | Posted by Horus92
I found a security flaw with the PMs. Before I say what it is I want it known that this was a complete accident. I wasn't trying to read people's PMs.
I was looking at the online users thing, and clicked on a forum. I must have accidentaly clicked on something else because it brought me to a page with someone writing a PM. I could see the message, and it even looked like I could edit it. I didn't read what it said, I think it was just something about a UE meet anyway.
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I've noticed this before. You see the recipient of the message and the quote (or a blank form) in the message box, but that's it.
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Avatar-X
Alpha Husky
Location: West Coast
Gender: Male
yay!
| | | Re: Can PMs be read by moderators?
<Reply # 34 on 10/13/2005 8:44 PM >
| | | | If someone hit the green icon, you can then see what post they are writing a message about, but you can't actually read what they have written.
-av
huskies - such fluff. |
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HillbillyHorus
Location: Charlottesville Virginia
Gender: Male
Im in ur government, killin ur d00dz
| | | Re: Can PMs be read by moderators?
<Reply # 35 on 10/14/2005 8:09 PM >
| | | | Can't the mods log in with someone else's password (not that they ever have)? Or are the passwords "lost in code" (i.e. can't be found except by the site).
You can't fall off a mountain. |
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seicer
Location: New York
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Can PMs be read by moderators?
<Reply # 36 on 10/14/2005 8:11 PM >
| | | | Posted by Horus
Can't the mods log in with someone else's password (not that they ever have)? Or are the passwords "lost in code" (i.e. can't be found except by the site).
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They can be encrypted in the database through the "PASSWORD" string (lack of a better word) or stored as a regular "TEXT" string.
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Avatar-X
Alpha Husky
Location: West Coast
Gender: Male
yay!
| | | Re: Can PMs be read by moderators?
<Reply # 37 on 10/14/2005 8:23 PM >
| | | | I am the only one who has access to log in as you. I do this when troubleshooting bugs that affect only one person ("the blue dot won't go away", etc).
-av
huskies - such fluff. |
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ofberenonehand
Location: Minn-e-snow-ta
"Where now is Boromir the Fair? He tarries and I grieve."
| | Re: Can PMs be read by moderators?
<Reply # 38 on 10/16/2005 5:50 AM >
| | | | Posted by David E
It should not matter whether they can read PMs or not. If it is not UER worthy or you feel uncomfortable about maybe being called on what you sent, then don't do it in an area where Avatar-X or a Moderator can read it. It is called common sense.
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I have to disagree. Not the fight picking sort of disagreement, but the situational type. I have at times included personal information in P.M.'s. The type of things that are intended for the recipient ONLY. As a general opinion I think the mods here are decent people who would probably never do anything intentionally negative to me. Still, having not met most of them, I would not want them having direct access to things like my name, address, hobbies, etc without me giving it to them intentionally.
There's more to it than 'being called on it.' It's an issue of privacy. I think it's important to know that mods do not have ready access to our PRIVATE messages. The only way I could accept PM's being available to Mods would be if it was clearly and obviously disclosed.
Basically, I think Private Message gives the impression that it is infact a PRIVATE MESSAGE.
Anyway, just thought I'd broaden the necessity for privacy a bit. I hate the argument that "if you have nothing to hide, why hide it?" Same reason I close the blinds to the road when i have sex, it's not everyone elses business.
"That's What Government Is For; To Get In A Man's Way" -Mal |
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el nerdo
 
Chief UER Lackey
Gender: Male
What are you, from the Department of Know'm Sayin's? You takin' a Know'm census?
| | | Re: Can PMs be read by moderators?
<Reply # 39 on 10/16/2005 4:48 PM >
| | | | Posted by ofberenonehand
There's more to it than 'being called on it.' It's an issue of privacy. I think it's important to know that mods do not have ready access to our PRIVATE messages. The only way I could accept PM's being available to Mods would be if it was clearly and obviously disclosed.
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It is clearly disclosed. I mean, you *did* read the terms of service when you signed up, right? You agreed to them when signing up...
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