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1 2 3   UER Forum > Archived UE Tutorials, Lessons, and Useful Info > Protection when UE (Viewed 1974 times) Chris  Location: Australia Gender: Male OMGWTFROFL  |  Protection when UE < on 8/1/2004 5:08 AM >   Has anyone here ever taken personal safety measures when going urban exploring or meeting up with a group of explorers. im not saying that anyone here is dangerous but have you ever taken some sort of personal safety measures just in case? like pepper spray or a friend. Im bored... message me on msn :) [email protected] (dont ask why its so long:P *hangs head in shame*) Gunslinger  Location: The Wasteland "Peel Region" Gender: Male  |  Re: Protection when UE <Reply # 1 on 8/1/2004 5:28 AM >   well you should never go UEing by yourself, its always a good idea to go with another person, just in case something goes wrong. say like getting stuck in an elevator. [last edit 8/1/2004 5:30 AM by Gunslinger - edited 1 times] [00:22:07] * Roadwolf prefers tampons over pads. [19:42:01] <Roadwolf> i like penis. 17:04:43] <Avatar-X> i saw a husky outside earlier today 17:05:11] <Silent_Knight> you didn't get shagadelic on it, didya' Av? ;p [17:05:12] <Avatar-X> yeah i don't know why :P Jester  Location: Vancouver,B.C. Canada Gender: Male Always just out of sight...  |  |  Re: Protection when UE <Reply # 2 on 8/1/2004 5:30 AM >   Posted by Paradox_87 like pepper spray or a friend. Bring a friend that has pepper spray. Problem solved. It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf. Shane  Moderator Location: Bronx, NY Gender: Male  |  |  |  |  |  Re: Protection when UE <Reply # 3 on 8/1/2004 6:28 AM >   Well, I usually carry a pocket knife with me all the time (including UE) unless it's a place where I think there is a very high risk of getting caught by police. I wouldn't want to have to explain it even if the one I carry is legal. I mostly carry the knife for it's usefullness as a tool, I use it alot work especially, but I wouldn't hesitate to use it to defend myself if put in that position. When UEing, I usually try to go with at least one other person, although I've done many sites alone if nobody was around and it looked reasonably safe. I also carry a pretty hefty 3C battery aluminum flashlight and tripod that would both work pretty well for giving a beatdown if neccesary. I don't really worry about defense too much while out, I'd always prefer to run than have to deal with some sort of confrontation with a hostile person. I've thought about getting some pepper spray for some of the more questionable places we go, but it would probably just end up being another peice of gear that I lug around and don't get much use out of. "Because there's no possibility of real disaster, real risk, we're left with no chance for real salvation. Real elation. Real excitement. Joy. Discovery. Invention. The laws that keep us safe, these same laws condemn us to boredom. Without access to true chaos, we'll never have true peace. Unless everything can get worse, it won't get any better." -Chuck Palahniuk Freak  Location: Usually Alaska, now MSP. Gender: Male Hypocrite  |  |  Re: Protection when UE <Reply # 4 on 8/1/2004 6:48 AM >   I bring condoms, because you just never know when you'll run into a group of hot nymphomaniac drain chicks, and protection is important. Turn off the internet and go play outside. http://spamusement...hp/comics/view/137 Arkan  Location: LaSalle County, Illinois Gender: Male  |  |  Re: Protection when UE <Reply # 5 on 8/1/2004 6:19 PM >   I usually carry some pepper spray with me. I think pepper spray would be a lot more effective than a knife seeing as I would have no idea how to fight with a knife. Any idiot can fire off some pepper spray Burzum  Noble Donor  |  |  Re: Protection when UE <Reply # 6 on 8/1/2004 8:31 PM >   Posted by Paradox_87 Has anyone here ever taken personal safety measures when going urban exploring or meeting up with a group of explorers. im not saying that anyone here is dangerous but have you ever taken some sort of personal safety measures just in case? like pepper spray or a friend. This is what I go by, and I have never felt more unsafe than I wanted to be: ALWAYS go with a friend, one you can trust. Train yourself in first aid (emergency response) and insist your friend does as well. Tell someone where you are going, when you should be back, and what to do if you don't show up. Bring at least a 3D Maglite. It's the acceptable, light emitting version of a big metal club. This should be all the security you need - i have to respectfully disagree with those who carry knives or pepperspray - though legal, they can make things alot more difficult if you get caught. Since i figure i am more likely to run into security or police than i am criminals and drug addicts, i tend to worry more about the former and less about the latter. www.rouskrew.com because evil won't just do itself. Mark  Very Noble Donor Location: South Carolina Gender: Male What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?  |  Re: Protection when UE <Reply # 7 on 8/1/2004 11:02 PM >   Its all on your own perogitive. All you guys that carry beating objects, do you know how to fight with a blugening device beyond swing for all your worth? Any street kid knows how to dodge that stuff unless you attack before they see you. Not saying you need a machine gun and gernades to be safe but honestly safety in an abandoned building is your own comfort level not the equipment. Yeah its partly skilled but who knows what your going to run into. "If the threat level goes up its probably because of me." "I am looking for a girl who enjoys headbutting beltbuckles" Shane  Moderator Location: Bronx, NY Gender: Male  |  |  |  |  |  Re: Protection when UE <Reply # 8 on 8/1/2004 11:12 PM >   I generally don't carry the knife if the site I am going to has a high risk of being caught. I carry it mostly for it's usefullness as a tool rather than self defense. Remember that guy that got his arm pinned under that rock and used his pocketknife to amputate the arm and save himself? Who knows when it will come in handy... "Because there's no possibility of real disaster, real risk, we're left with no chance for real salvation. Real elation. Real excitement. Joy. Discovery. Invention. The laws that keep us safe, these same laws condemn us to boredom. Without access to true chaos, we'll never have true peace. Unless everything can get worse, it won't get any better." -Chuck Palahniuk Mark  Very Noble Donor Location: South Carolina Gender: Male What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?  |  Re: Protection when UE <Reply # 9 on 8/1/2004 11:56 PM >   That wasnt directed at you, by the way. "If the threat level goes up its probably because of me." "I am looking for a girl who enjoys headbutting beltbuckles" Arkan  Location: LaSalle County, Illinois Gender: Male  |  |  Re: Protection when UE <Reply # 10 on 8/2/2004 12:23 AM >   Posted by Mark Its all on your own perogitive. All you guys that carry beating objects, do you know how to fight with a blugening device beyond swing for all your worth? Any street kid knows how to dodge that stuff unless you attack before they see you. Not saying you need a machine gun and gernades to be safe but honestly safety in an abandoned building is your own comfort level not the equipment. Yeah its partly skilled but who knows what your going to run into. This is what I was trying to get at with the knife thing. Unless you know how to use a weapon correctly you may either escalate the situation or get yourself killed. Most of the places I UE are far away from any security so I find carrying some pepper spray effective for my skills/needs but it is all about what you feel comfortable with. SnakeEyes  Gender: Male  |  Re: Protection when UE <Reply # 11 on 8/2/2004 4:23 AM >   Posted by Burzum Train yourself in first aid (emergency response) and insist your friend does as well. It's a very good idea to learn first aid, but it's very difficult to fully train yourself. You should go and find some classes. Pity the poor agnostic dyslexic insomniac; he stays up all night, wondering if there really is a dog. Krenta  Location: Saint Paul, MN Nope, wasn't me.  |  Re: Protection when UE <Reply # 12 on 8/2/2004 4:38 AM >   Posted by Mark All you guys that carry beating objects, do you know how to fight with a blugening device beyond swing for all your worth? An equally, if not more important point, is do you know and understand your state/province/country's laws regarding the use of force and self-defense? With the way the world has become, if you pound someone's skull in with a flashlight or rip his face open with a tripod, someone is almost certain to sue you, and it'd really suck to go to jail because you were overzealous in "protecting" yourself. In this respect, OC spray/foam is "safer" than a flashlight/club/tripod/big knife, because it's less-than-lethal. That's one of the reasons I carry it when explorin'. Have Speed Graphic, Will Travel. Burzum  Noble Donor  |  |  Re: Protection when UE <Reply # 13 on 8/2/2004 5:44 AM >   Posted by SnakeEyes It's a very good idea to learn first aid, but it's very difficult to fully train yourself. You should go and find some classes. sorry, i should have clarified. that is absolutely what i meant. i think anyone exploring without some type of first aid certification, preferably WFR or EMT, is taking a bad risk. www.rouskrew.com because evil won't just do itself. andrea  Location: Baltimore MD Gender: Female Apparently, I am heinous.  |  Re: Protection when UE <Reply # 14 on 8/5/2004 12:51 AM >   Posted by Freak I bring condoms, because you just never know when you'll run into a group of hot nymphomaniac drain chicks, and protection is important. lol, when i saw the title of the thread thats what I was thinking... I normally never go alone and I try not to meet up with random people and I never go anywhere I am not comfortable, to many young girls just disapear off the face of the earth, I am paranoid about that... This isn't boot camp and you are not a ninja. But you sure look like an idiot in that outfit. -MisfitStyle-   |  Re: Protection when UE <Reply # 15 on 8/10/2004 1:21 PM >   Beyond a little scouting, I've never explored alone. That's a good start. Beyond that, because of their usefulness for some explorations (when there was a small chance of getting caught) I've carried: a tripod, a wrench to remove a bolt, a crowbar for popping manhole covers, and a screwdriver. I suppose, in a pinch, each could be used as a potential weapon. I agree, however, that the best defense is to never put yourself in a situation when you have to defend yourself. "I feel like I just got in a battle of wits with some kid in a helmet I found licking a window." Need help? Please use the Contact a Mod forum — I'm slow to see PMs. NoSuchPerson  Stop, or I'll ask you again!  |  Re: Protection when UE <Reply # 16 on 8/11/2004 8:59 AM >   I carry OC foam with me. I wouldn't hesitate to use it on someone if I had to. I sprayed a homeless guy straight in the eyes...unloaded almost the whole thing on him. He was threatening me with a broken beer bottle. Heh, he didn't give me much trouble after that, probably because he was too busy laying on the ground crying/being blind. -Ex Unit calling radio say again? Roland  Location: Baltimore, MD Gender: Male Proud Leader of Brandishing a Firearm on the High Seas UE  |  |  Re: Protection when UE <Reply # 17 on 8/11/2004 4:48 PM >   There have been a few occaisons when I've brought a sword with me, as sort of a confidence booster. When you have a sword in your hand you feel like no one can mess with you, whether you know how to use it or not.(and for the record I take fencing classes so I do know how to use it.) I havn't brought one with me in a couple years though, and in retrospect I'm glad I never was put in a situation where I had to use it. It would be easier to explain macing someone, or even clubbing them with a bat in self defense. How do you explain running somone through with a sword? Buildings have two natural enemies- water, and bears. Ninjalicious  Gone, but always with us Location: Toronto  |  |  Re: Protection when UE <Reply # 18 on 8/11/2004 7:37 PM >   Roland: Good idea. I recommend a sword that does +2 against undead. Because you just never know, what with the economy today. Ninj http://www.infiltration.org -MisfitStyle-   |  Re: Protection when UE <Reply # 19 on 8/11/2004 9:37 PM >   ugh...-35 HP for the DnD reference. *grin* "I feel like I just got in a battle of wits with some kid in a helmet I found licking a window." Need help? 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