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 The Hitman's Daughter
     
Account Closed
Location: ottawa, canada
Gender: Female
hot pavement.
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<Reply # 1 on 6/27/2004 5:13 PM >
|  | | | i was picturing something more like
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Freak
 
Location: Usually Alaska, now MSP.
Gender: Male
Hypocrite
| | | Re: Strippers on rampage, targeting abandoned homes for scrap metal
<Reply # 3 on 6/27/2004 5:48 PM >
| | | | Man, I thought the same thing  Great image THD.
The link isn't working for me, can you paste the text into a reply here?
Turn off the internet and go play outside.
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nostra-YOUPPI!
Umpire
Location: Shahre:'on Kaybec
Bonsoir et cest partie
| | Re: Strippers on rampage, targeting abandoned homes for scrap metal
<Reply # 4 on 6/27/2004 5:51 PM >
| | | | in montreal the box office booth from the corona theatre showed up in an antique store
Montreal Expos 1969-2004 Forever Proud Lets Keep The Dream Alive |
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Tupsumato
Location: Finland
Gender: Male
How close can you go?
| | Re: Strippers on rampage, targeting abandoned homes for scrap metal
<Reply # 5 on 6/27/2004 6:14 PM >
| | | | Posted by robdobi
its no secret that antique dealers search abandoned places for stuff
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One reason for me to not to reveal the location of places which contain stuff like these:
Not that I wouldn't like to see those stuff to see "another life", but stealing is always stealing.
All information and details given in good faith but not guaranteed! |
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The Hitman's Daughter
Account Closed
Location: ottawa, canada
Gender: Female
hot pavement.
| | | Re: Strippers on rampage, targeting abandoned homes for scrap metal
<Reply # 6 on 6/27/2004 7:46 PM >
| | | | Posted by Tupsumato
One reason for me to not to reveal the location of places which contain stuff like these:
Not that I wouldn't like to see those stuff to see "another life", but stealing is always stealing.
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wow, that's beautiful.
part of me is glad to see it is still intact in it's natural state... then a part of me thinks that it would be a good thing if an antique dealer did take them, clean them up, preserve them from being destroyed, and find appreciative homes for them.
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From now on and until the end of time, "Hip To Be Square" will conjure images of bloody bodies being hacked apart with axes.
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Curious_George
Location: Cambridge
Gender: Male
Straight outta New Bedlam
| | Re: Strippers on rampage, targeting abandoned homes for scrap metal
<Reply # 7 on 6/27/2004 9:02 PM >
| | | | I talked to a squatter in the Ogilive Mill just the other day and he is continually taking scrap metal to the yards. I've noticed buildings being stripped quite a bit more since metal prices have shot up in the last while as well.
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Chronic
Very Noble Donor
Location: Kitchener, ON
Gender: Male
Architecture has only two enemies. Water and stupid men.
| | Re: Strippers on rampage, targeting abandoned homes for scrap metal
<Reply # 8 on 6/28/2004 12:58 AM >
| | | | Take a trip out Broadway Ave., to the east side of Buffalo. There are abandonned & boarded up wood frame houses that have had the aluminum siding removed to a point of about 7 feet above grade. I thought this was weird until I saw a guy wheeling a shopping cart up Broadway, full of folded up siding. The 7 foot high removal is exactly how high an average man can reach up, and grasp the last reachable piece of siding. Nothing is sacred when it comes to scrappers/scavenger rapist/strippers.
01:14:16] <Chronic> Conrad...ya gotta go....
[01:14:30] <nightbird> yes Mr. Black, life is funnier than a pocket full of stocks! And...Tim has legal friends in Chicago...we'll get thru this!!! |
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Silent Knight
Location: Niagara region
Gender: Male
Kastle Archives Productions Inc. (since 1999)
| | | Re: Strippers on rampage, targeting abandoned homes for scrap metal
<Reply # 9 on 6/28/2004 1:27 AM >
| | | | On a few trips to Stelwire in Hamilton I've seen vagrants pushing shopping carts loaded with debris and scrap metal that looks like its been stripped from the abandonments, usually along the train tracks and up and down a few backalleys in the area.
There's also a place right on Barton St. just down from the hospital where they sell scavenged junk openly on the sidewalk.
S.K.
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mgruss
Location: Chicago, Il
Gender: Male
| |  |  | | Re: Strippers on rampage, targeting abandoned homes for scrap metal
<Reply # 10 on 6/28/2004 3:31 AM >
| | | | Posted by Freak
Man, I thought the same thing Great image THD.
The link isn't working for me, can you paste the text into a reply here?
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It's a video, no link just javascript.
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Tupsumato
Location: Finland
Gender: Male
How close can you go?
| | Re: Strippers on rampage, targeting abandoned homes for scrap metal
<Reply # 11 on 6/28/2004 8:55 PM >
| | | | Posted by The Hitman's Daughter
wow, that's beautiful.
part of me is glad to see it is still intact in it's natural state... then a part of me thinks that it would be a good thing if an antique dealer did take them, clean them up, preserve them from being destroyed, and find appreciative homes for them.
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I was thinking if I should try to contact the owners of the house, because I'm not sure if they even know about the stuff left there. The original owner has very probably died; he was born in 1900 (found information from a war veteran web site; there was still a lot of personal stuff left behind).
Haven't just had time to do that, though.
The stuff has been there for couple of decades. The buildings seems to be fine (as fine as an old farm house can be; just one window broken), so they won't vanish in near future, if anything bad doesn't happen to the building.
All information and details given in good faith but not guaranteed! |
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nd31
| | Re: Strippers on rampage, targeting abandoned homes for scrap metal
<Reply # 12 on 7/1/2004 5:26 AM >
| | | | To say the least, the contents of this thread were very disappointing, considering the title  .
[last edit 7/1/2004 5:27 AM by nd31 - edited 1 times]
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Armchair Traveller
Location: Northern Hemisphere - The World
Gender: Female
| | Re: Strippers on rampage, targeting abandoned homes for scrap metal
<Reply # 13 on 7/8/2004 9:23 AM >
| | | | Posted by BCT Chronic
Take a trip out Broadway Ave., to the east side of Buffalo. There are abandonned & boarded up wood frame houses that have had the aluminum siding removed to a point of about 7 feet above grade. I thought this was weird until I saw a guy wheeling a shopping cart up Broadway, full of folded up siding. The 7 foot high removal is exactly how high an average man can reach up, and grasp the last reachable piece of siding. Nothing is sacred when it comes to scrappers/scavenger rapist/strippers.
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Yeh, I actually saw one of those guys too. We'd been watching trains up by the 'Firehall' in the CSX yard and stopped at TOPS, to get some groceries, before we headed home. I remember seeing a guy with a shopping cart full of metal. It didn't cross my mind that it was siding stripped off a building though. Duhhh....
Actually, I remember in the UK, after the war, scavengers used to go around and strip downspouts and wastepipes off old houses and sell them for scrap. In the late 60's when people were changing over their heating systems from hot water boilers to forced air. We did a roaring trade collecting old iron radiators and grates out of coal or wood burning furnaces. Some people even paid us to take them away. The money we collected from that helped put two people through university.
"Walk with me through the universe, and along the way see how all of us are connected. Feast the eyes of your soul on the love that abounds in all places at once. Seemingly endless, like your own existence."
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Freak
Location: Usually Alaska, now MSP.
Gender: Male
Hypocrite
| | | Re: Strippers on rampage, targeting abandoned homes for scrap metal
<Reply # 14 on 7/8/2004 5:41 PM >
| | | | After WWII a lot of fishermen in Southeast Alaska stripped lead off the old military cables. They'd find one end of a communications cable on an abandoned island, and start pulling it up and stripping the lead casing off to sell or use for weights. Everything went well until someone found the active phone line between cities 
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NV
Supreme Noble Donor
Location: City of Chicago, Richard M. Daley, Mayor
| | Re: Strippers on rampage, targeting abandoned homes for scrap metal
<Reply # 15 on 7/8/2004 8:27 PM >
| | | | This is a topic I have mixed feelings about.
There is a huge abandoned school not far from my apartment that has entertained myself and some of the other local explorers for a while now. Recently we've been encountering "strippers" (the scrap-metal kind, not the other kind) who have been salvaging copper wire from the building. One the one hand I think it's great that these folks are able to recycle what is otherwise unused material and earn money at it. On the other hand, their activities have brought unwanted attention to the building--during our last trip there, some of our "entrances" were re-sealed up (we were still able to easily get in.)
This building has a lot of interesting artifacts inside. So far the salvagers have not touched these items, but I'm sure it will not be long before they do.
Do you think there is a difference between "stripping"--just taking the copper wire, for example--and salvaging artifacts from an abandoned building?
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Armchair Traveller
Location: Northern Hemisphere - The World
Gender: Female
| | Re: Strippers on rampage, targeting abandoned homes for scrap metal
<Reply # 16 on 7/8/2004 11:21 PM >
| | | | Boy, for me, this is an ethical toughie. As a supporter of reusing and recycling of materials, I think it's much better to recycle usable material for cash, than to see it buried in a landfill somewhere. On the other hand, removing 'artifacts' while probably less invasive than stripping copper wire and/or copper or lead plumbing, is more like stealing.
Personally I'd be inclined to remove artifacts, with one proviso, there would have to be signs of vandalsim which might indicate that something useful, with perhaps historic signifigance, might be destroyed if not removed. Both are 'victimless crimes' but when you get to the bottom line, they're both theft.
I'm thinking that neither of these answers resolves anything. But, if the people doing the metal stripping are doing it rather than muggings, or B & E's, then yes, I'd rather see them strip metal than commit other criminal acts to get cash to survive. It's one of those Psycho/Social issues that governments pay big money to 'think tanks' to hash out, before government funding or grants are given out.
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"Walk with me through the universe, and along the way see how all of us are connected. Feast the eyes of your soul on the love that abounds in all places at once. Seemingly endless, like your own existence."
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MacGyver
Location: St Paul, Minnesota
Gender: Male
"Someone go find me a paperclip, a D-cell battery, and a cheese grater"
| | Re: Strippers on rampage, targeting abandoned homes for scrap metal
<Reply # 17 on 7/8/2004 11:31 PM >
| | | | I guess the way I see it is like this:
Recycling things like metals is a wonderful thing to do, and I would love to hear about it happening more often in general (how often do you see people tossing beverage/soup cans and computer cases in the landfill instead of recycling the metal?).
Recycling stuff that belongs to somebody else (EG. breaking into an abandoned but owned building to cut away as much copper as possible) is a noble idea and all, but the fact of the matter is that copper or whatever else still belongs to the owner, and it is up to that person to decide what to do with it.
As noble as it is to be recycling, stealing someone else's scrap metal to turn in for profit is playing dirty in the big environmental game show.
Like a fiend with his dope / a drunkard his wine / a man will have lust for the lure of the mine
"If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent." |
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Chronic
Very Noble Donor
Location: Kitchener, ON
Gender: Male
Architecture has only two enemies. Water and stupid men.
| | Re: Strippers on rampage, targeting abandoned homes for scrap metal
<Reply # 18 on 7/9/2004 3:38 AM >
| | | | It's just plain wrong. Just look at Buffalo Central Terminal. Scrappers have taken everything, from copper flashing on the roof (now leaking due to this) to art deco fixtures. Even copper pipes well hidden in the bowels of the intricate wall tiles have been extracted thru giant, gaping holes smashed thru to get at them. Scrappers, Jobbers, "Recyclers" whatever you want to call them, are just plain scavenging parasites.
01:14:16] <Chronic> Conrad...ya gotta go....
[01:14:30] <nightbird> yes Mr. Black, life is funnier than a pocket full of stocks! And...Tim has legal friends in Chicago...we'll get thru this!!! |
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dev
Passed away September 23rd, 2006.
| | Re: Strippers on rampage, targeting abandoned homes for scrap metal
<Reply # 19 on 7/12/2004 6:01 AM >
| | | | i like 'em. scrappers are okay in my book; the ones i meet in gary, indiana are just looking to make a living (or buy that next crack rock) without having to resort to worse crimes. most of 'em are happy with metals and could care less about antiques/artifacts. some are pretty hard-core and will take decorative features of the construction, which i'm not happy about, but whatever, better that the shit gets hacked out and sold than crushed when the demolition crew comes 'round. the other plus is that since scrap metal prices are way up, they're out in full force, which means that all my favorite buildings have excellent entrance points... they bust down the plywood so i don't have to.
--dev
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