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Posted by Samurai
that is the bane of a mass produced sports car. we're not talking about a hand-built exotic running 6 digits on the window sticker. We're talking about a mass produced, relatively inexpensive sports car that will run with a handmade exotic. You've got to look at it from that perspective. And the Viper, that made the Corvette look like a damn Veyron. by the way, no new car for me... still stuck with the same old cobalt.
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Nothing wrong with that Cobalt. And yeah, the Veyron, another subject. It's such an incredible car... but holy fuck it's ugly. I'm sorry. VW can do better. (ie, the W12 Nardo concept car they had)
(ok, the side louvers are a bit dated, but it was 10 years ago or something!)
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Posted by Samurai
what do you care? you wouldn't know what to do with one if you got one. hard to accept that they're world class sports cars isn't it?
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lol @ corvette being a world class sports car, I guess the cobalt is one too?
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Posted by Nismo
lol @ corvette being a world class sports car, I guess the cobalt is one too?
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It is. It maybe not in your universe but it is in THE REST OF THE WORLD.
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It's tough to benchmark World Class Sports Car as a term. If we're pegging against Ferrari, Lamborghini, Mclaren etc.... it's tough to compare the quality and fit and finish of a Vette to such beasts. Of course I could buy 3 Vettes for the price of one of those. Z06 & ZR1 are blazing fast...and the stock C6 is no slouch. Stuff a Vette in the garage and bank $100 grand .... vs. a Ferrari. If you can't drive either of them to the level that they can perform ie - daily street driving, aside from prestige how do you justify a Ferrari etc...?
side note....creepy as i'm typing this, song on the radio in my office comes on "Little Red Corvette' by Prince. weird
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Posted by Nismo
lol @ corvette being a world class sports car, I guess the cobalt is one too?
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why not? it ran circles around the GTi and covered the Nurburgring Nordschleife in 8:22.85 in 2007 which wasn't too bad. Also, in a shootout done at Virginia International Raceway, the Cobalt was holding its own against cars well out of its price point. it's not a perfect car, by any stretch, but where else were you going to get a 150+mph car for under $23k? oh how i love the Nordschleife!
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I think we all need to take a field trip to the Nurmburgring...
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Posted by Nismo
lol @ corvette being a world class sports car, I guess the cobalt is one too?
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The words "class" and "Corvette" don't often end up in the same sentence.
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Posted by Agent Skelly I think we all need to take a field trip to the Nurmburgring...
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Nürburgring! There is no "M" in the green hell! (and yes, we should go)
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Posted by bandi
Nürburgring! There is no "M" in the green hell! (and yes, we should go)
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And you I see added the umlaut.. I know someone in the UK who has a export 1987 Dodge Caravan
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ZR1 is a sick car Ill agree on that the cobalt is not a world class sports car, if it is I want some of the crack youre smoking so that my piece of shit S4 can be considered a luxury exotic.
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Posted by Nismo ZR1 is a sick car Ill agree on that the cobalt is not a world class sports car, if it is I want some of the crack youre smoking so that my piece of shit S4 can be considered a luxury exotic.
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i guess if your opinion counted for anything other than shit, I might be offended, but you're just living up to your reputation.
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Posted by Nismo ZR1 is a sick car Ill agree on that the cobalt is not a world class sports car, if it is I want some of the crack youre smoking so that my piece of shit S4 can be considered a luxury exotic.
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he wasnt saying the cobalt is, he was saying the corvette is. you seem to only argue here, dont you have a shop floor to clean....
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Is this our GM thread? Lets say it's our GM thread. WHAT THE FRIGGIN' HELL DOES REDUCED POWER MEAN!?!?!?!?! Check engine lights on and reduced power popped up on the display of my '03 Silverado. Won't rev over 1200 RPM's either. Fer fucks sake...
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Posted by DelbertGrady Is this our GM thread? Lets say it's our GM thread. WHAT THE FRIGGIN' HELL DOES REDUCED POWER MEAN!?!?!?!?! Check engine lights on and reduced power popped up on the display of my '03 Silverado. Won't rev over 1200 RPM's either. Fer fucks sake...
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Limp home mode. Something, somewhere, is wrong
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Posted by DelbertGrady Is this our GM thread? Lets say it's our GM thread. WHAT THE FRIGGIN' HELL DOES REDUCED POWER MEAN!?!?!?!?! Check engine lights on and reduced power popped up on the display of my '03 Silverado. Won't rev over 1200 RPM's either. Fer fucks sake...
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Reduced Power means that somewhere in your sensor package, something has failed miserably. In my Cobalt SS, i had that issue when one of the throttle position sensors failed (i got water into it). The engine would run, but it went to a conservative fuel map, ignition curve and completely bypassed the supercharger. did you get a Check Engine or Service Engine Soon indicator?
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Posted by Agent Skelly
And you I see added the umlaut.. I know someone in the UK who has a export 1987 Dodge Caravan
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I was pretty surprised when I saw a mid-90s Caravan driving down a tiny street in Rome.
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Posted by Samurai
Reduced Power means that somewhere in your sensor package, something has failed miserably. In my Cobalt SS, i had that issue when one of the throttle position sensors failed (i got water into it). The engine would run, but it went to a conservative fuel map, ignition curve and completely bypassed the supercharger. did you get a Check Engine or Service Engine Soon indicator?
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Check engine light came on. It was sitting for a week and we had a snow storm too, not that that should have anything to do with anything. I'm gonna try it again tomorrow... maybe the Chevy gods will magically fix it tonight while I sleep.
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Posted by DelbertGrady
Check engine light came on. It was sitting for a week and we had a snow storm too, not that that should have anything to do with anything. I'm gonna try it again tomorrow... maybe the Chevy gods will magically fix it tonight while I sleep.
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oddly enough, when I had the downstream 02 sensor out of my Cobalt, it did not trigger a CEL/Reduced Power message... see the systems only run so many checks at once. Like my problem with the throttle position sensor; Once it dried out, the computer ran through the test and the problem went away. \
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At least you get a limp mode! On the Cherokee or really any jeep with an 2nd gen EFI, if the CPS, TPS or IAC fails, the engine stops dead!
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Posted by Agent Skelly At least you get a limp mode! On the Cherokee or really any jeep with an 2nd gen EFI, if the CPS, TPS or IAC fails, the engine stops dead!
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(facepalm) there's some thinking right there!
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