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 Zack
 
Location: Burlington, VT
Gender: Male
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< on 4/26/2006 3:40 PM >
|  | | | You heard it, here's the story.
Earlier yesterday I went out scouting. I was on CENSORED street taking pictures of the abandoned TOO HOT FOR .CA when I noticed a really cool looking drain off to the side. It was square, fun. I went back to my dorm and showed the other local NEUEU members the images and planned a trip later that night. It ended up being only T1 and I going, but I was really excited. We rode our bikes down there and locked them up.
The first thing we see inside is square RCP, kinda plain, but different. There was only a few inches of water, but it was moving fast. We proceeded on a bit to find the drain changed. It changed from boring RCP to freaking awesome stone and support beam things on the ceiling. There were also spiders in this part. Lots of big, shiny, scary spiders. I wanted to go on but T1 was a wimp and didn't want to go past the spiders. If only we knew what we were getting into...
So we climbed out of the drain and decided to look on the other side of the highway for an outfall. Earlier that day I'd seen some kind of concrete in the woods over there, but I hadn't checked it out. Eventually we found an ~5 foot tall corrugated metal pipe outfall. This could be it. So we went in there. This lead to an older metal pipe, that lead to an even OLDER metal pipe(sketchy like crazy). That lead to the same kind of square RCP we'd entered from the other side. There was a big tree branch lodged at the tunnel change.
After going through this square RCP we ran into the same kind of stone/steel bar reinforced type we'd seen on the other side. It was in pretty bad shape. The entrance to this area had a lot of foam, a log, and the sides had been washed out pretty bad. Up ahead were some cool stairs and across our way, but still passable, was a big log.
GUNS BELOW
That's when we saw it. A strap of something sticking out of the foam. At first we thought it was a belt or something. When we found it to be a backpack, I was afraid it was full of kittens. But instead it was filled with a 44 magnum, a colt 45, and two clips. We sat down and discussed what we should do. We determined the best course of action to be getting the backpack into T1's jeep and taking it to the police station.
So, I put on the backpack-o'-guns and we rode our bikes back to the dorm where T1's jeep was. He had a plastic bag handy so we put the bag in that and drove to the police station. I just walked up to the counter and said "we found guns" and proceeded to give a short explanation of where/why. They brought us in and questioned us separately after taking the guns from the jeep. The detective that I talked with was really nice. They were concerned with exactly where we found them, and why we were there. I had taken lots of pictures in there, and of the guns when we found them. So I gave him my CF cards. I think I did the right thing by not lying and making up some BS story for why we were there. I told the detective about our UE group, what we do, and even where we've done it. He was totally human and said we'd be fine, even though I mentioned an active site.
One of the officers was concerned about us not having small space training. He asked us what kind of gear we used, if we used rope, and stuff like that. None of us do, and he said they didn't recommend us doing stuff like that. I totally understand his concern. We took this officer back to our entrances and showed him about where we though the guns were found. We didn't actually go in though. After that they let us go home. But not ten minutes after I got back, the detective called and said he was done with my CF cards. I went down to the station to pick them up. He said he couldn't get the odd numbered images. The odds were raws. My camera writes a nice raw and a low res shitty jpeg every time I hit the shutter. I'd offered to help de-raw them, but I guess they were cool with 25 quality 640x480 jpegs. I'm calling the station in two days to see what they've found out about the guns. Supposedly there was a double murder very close to that drain a few years ago.
And now, what you've all been waiting for, the images.
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Jonsered
   
Location: Back in New Mexico where I belong
Gender: Male
Dressed for a scarecrow ball.........
| |  | | Re: We Found Guns
<Reply # 1 on 4/26/2006 3:50 PM >
| | | | Wow! Interesting find there. Good call on turning them in. You never know if they could help solve a crime, and you dont' want to be in possession of stolen guns, much less one that was used in a murder.
Cool tunnel by the way!
I have changed my personal exploring ethics code. From now on it will be: "Take only aimed shots, leave only hobo corpses." Copper scrappers, meth heads and homeless beware. The Jonsered cometh among you, bringing fear and dread.
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maZe
   
Location: Montreal/Moncton/Ottawa
Gender: Female
"All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed" - Sean O'Casey
| |  | | Re: We Found Guns
<Reply # 2 on 4/26/2006 3:59 PM >
| | | | Nice find. Definitely an interesting exploration. I think you did the right thing.
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blackhawk
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| | | Re: We Found Guns
<Reply # 3 on 4/26/2006 4:00 PM >
| | | | Posted by Jonsered
Wow! Interesting find there. Good call on turning them in. You never know if they could help solve a crime, and you dont' want to be in possession of stolen guns, much less one that was used in a murder.
Cool tunnel by the way!
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Like wise, good call! No one that owns a gun, and hasn't committed a crime with it, throws it away! They're trash now anyway, probably stolen and hidden. Then forgotten by the dopes that stole them.
I commend you on your common sense!
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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T1
Gender: Male
| | | Re: We Found Guns
<Reply # 4 on 4/26/2006 4:02 PM >
| | | | Z1 pretty much told the whole story. I just wanted to add that after doing some research online I found out the make of the guns. The first gun is a Ruger Revolver. According to another student in my dorm, the second gun looks like a Colt .45 as Z1 stated. I was hard to see the logo on the handle of the gun because of the flash from the camera. The last thing I wanted to say was that in the third picture you can see the backpack in the place where we found it, at the base of the big log. When Z1 took that picture, we didn't know that the backpack was there.
[last edit 4/26/2006 4:13 PM by T1 - edited 1 times]
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lsd
Location: g-spot.
Gender: Male
aight
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<Reply # 5 on 4/26/2006 4:11 PM >
| | | | wow, thats pretty scarry considering, if it was a different time, you might have run into the assholes dumping those things. They might not be as understanding as the cops were.
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CowboyPenner
Location: Durham Region or anywhere that I might end up while travelling
Gender: Male
URBEXMobile
| | | Re: We Found Guns
<Reply # 6 on 4/26/2006 4:39 PM >
| | | | Awesome find.....the drain and the guns. You did the right thing and handled yourselves very well with the cops.
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nobody
Location: VANCOUVER B.C.
Gender: Male
5:55 is a state of mind
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<Reply # 7 on 4/26/2006 5:02 PM >
| | | | Blows my mind....way cool, and good for you, you made the right call. N.
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GotPaisley!
Location: Lost.
Gender: Female
Exploring Gypsy!
| | Re: We Found Guns
<Reply # 8 on 4/26/2006 5:11 PM >
| | | | Definitely an interesting exploration!
Awesome job for going to the police & doing the right thing!
There must be quite a few things a hot bath won't cure, but I don't know any of them.
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Zack
Location: Burlington, VT
Gender: Male
| | | | Re: We Found Guns
<Reply # 9 on 4/26/2006 5:11 PM >
| | | | The only thing that bothers me is that we didn't get to explore the whole drain. I don't think we should go back for a while either. At some point the cops are going in to check it all out.
Here's some more pictures of the drain.
This is the decaying corrugated pipe. Nasty, I know.
And this is where the tunnel changed from RCP to stone.
Great Adventurer and Artist Photographer |
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Myelin
Location: The End of Canada
Gender: Male
| | Re: We Found Guns
<Reply # 10 on 4/26/2006 5:19 PM >
| | | | I pretty well feel the same as everyone else, except I also wanted to add that the exemplary way you handed the situation also helped improve the way those cops and their peers will look at and treat ue/drainers in the future. Good stuff!
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Axle
Location: Milton, ON
Gender: Male
Sieg oder Tod
| | Re: We Found Guns
<Reply # 11 on 4/26/2006 6:04 PM >
| | | | Excellent job there. Kudos to you on what you did and how you handled the situation and the police.
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Explorer Zero
| | | Re: We Found Guns
<Reply # 12 on 4/26/2006 6:26 PM >
| | | | from the looks, those weapons are not trashed
hose em off oil em down good to go the wood still looks good too
the .45 appears to have Coltguard (electroless nickle plating) and the Blackhawk appears to be stainless or your flash made the color washout
they have not been down there a year, from the looks
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blackhawk
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Location: Mission Control
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| | | Re: We Found Guns
<Reply # 13 on 4/26/2006 6:54 PM >
| | | | Posted by 2Xplorations
from the looks, those weapons are not trashed
hose em off oil em down good to go the wood still looks good too
the .45 appears to have Coltguard (electroless nickle plating) and the Blackhawk appears to be stainless or your flash made the color washout
they have not been down there a year, from the looks
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There not glock's, and I doubt if they were packed in cosmoline. Dissimilar metals don't play well together in water. At the very least they would need a complete disassemble, and cleaning by a gunsmith. Not worth it unless your the owner. In fact they're probably worse than just trashed; they're hot and possible weapons used in a crime.
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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Freak
Location: Usually Alaska, now MSP.
Gender: Male
Hypocrite
| | | Re: We Found Guns
<Reply # 14 on 4/26/2006 7:01 PM >
| | | | Good call turning them in. I'd be tempted to keep em, but it's obvious that they were either stolen or used for a crime. I've never come across more than ammo and parts, but my Dad found a rifle in a wrecked boat once, and restored it to working condition.
You can always see if the cops will let you keep the guns if they turn out not to be evidence, otherwise they'll probably get melted down or sold at an auction. That .45 colt is probably worth something.
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desmet
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.
| | | | Re: We Found Guns
<Reply # 15 on 4/26/2006 7:10 PM >
| | | | Good call on everything but telling the cops about an active location. Why tell them that? I'd mention a few of the MOST "no big deal" locations and leave it at that. Your exploring has no relevance to their work...I would have told them enough to explain who I was and why I was in there and leave it at that. Other than that, good call, interesting story.
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Zack
Location: Burlington, VT
Gender: Male
| | | | Re: We Found Guns
<Reply # 16 on 4/26/2006 7:12 PM >
| | | | Posted by desmet
Good call on everything but telling the cops about an active location. Why tell them that? I'd mention a few of the MOST "no big deal" locations and leave it at that. Your exploring has no relevance to their work...I would have told them enough to explain who I was and why I was in there and leave it at that. Other than that, good call, interesting story.
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The "active" site I told them about was a construction site. Nothing serious. I made sure we were going to be ok first. I actually asked him if we'd get in trouble for these sites.
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tron_2.0
Location: Ohio
Gender: Male
| | | | Re: We Found Guns
<Reply # 17 on 4/26/2006 7:22 PM >
| | | | UE CRIME FIGHTIN'!
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I find your lack of coziness.... disturbing.
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Lexi
Location: Oslo, Norway
Gender: Female
I'm getting old.
| | Re: We Found Guns
<Reply # 18 on 4/26/2006 7:26 PM >
| | | | Double murder? Damn dude.
That'd be scary if they really were the murder weapons.
[15:00:33] <SeeThirty> cause you're not likely to be anywhere that other people haven't been who didn't have protection
[15:00:41] <SeeThirty> still better safe than lexi |
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eidolon
Location: Köln, Nordrhein-Westfalen
| | Re: We Found Guns
<Reply # 19 on 4/26/2006 7:30 PM >
| | | | Posted by Freak
Good call turning them in. I'd be tempted to keep em, but it's obvious that they were either stolen or used for a crime. I've never come across more than ammo and parts, but my Dad found a rifle in a wrecked boat once, and restored it to working condition.
You can always see if the cops will let you keep the guns if they turn out not to be evidence, otherwise they'll probably get melted down or sold at an auction. That .45 colt is probably worth something.
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Definitely worth a try. Here, they'd just be sold with the rest of the found property if no one claimed them (I got a wicked cool geiger counter from the 60's at one such auction), so it's certainly worth a try to see if you've got any sort of finders rights to them if they're unclaimed after a few months.
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