Posted by jerm IX I'm comfortable with how I do things and the mods have already asked that this convo not take place on the threads. I'm off on the road again now.
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No, we just try to stop flame wars. If people want to have a mature discussion about ethics, that's cool. And when you posted that you don't care, presumably about locations and their sensitivity, that's definitely worth discussing. For clarification, what you're doing by giving too much information away isn't against UER rules, but it is very loose butthole and I encourage discussion so that everyone can see why many of us might think so.
Posted by Rashomon Yes, I am a a jerm X fanboy ... everyone knows that by now ... LOL ... And in all fairness, I think you have a very valid point. These locations ought to be respected and kept private for those who go in to explore, photograph, document and decay with dignity and pride. There are lots of people who's only intent is vandalism, finding a place to get high, etc. etc. However, from personal experience it was jerm X' blog, posting these exact places that got me interested in this hobby. If he hadn't done so I would have forever been locked out of these fun and addictive adventures. There was a time when I just followed jerm's "407 series" and follow in his footsteps. LOL So I guess posting the exact name is a double edged sword. On the one hand you attract unwanted attention from vandals, the city and developers boarding it up; and on the other hand people who are genuinely interested in seeing these places for themselves. I am a noob still so if there is something I don't understand please do advise. At the end of the day I am here to learn and shoot
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We have someone like Jerm over here in Korea, although she's much less of an explorer, but on the other hand also doesn't ever dabble in street art. She's basically the one person who's handing out information on locations publicly, stylising herself as the information broker for abandoned locations and whoring them out publicly online in exchange for clicks and likes. Yes, she gets more of both of those than I do, but if you think that makes her the "indisputable queen of urban exploring and urban decay in Korea" you're as crazy as she is, because fame and popularity are the worst measurement of a good explorer, if that is really a measureable thing. For example, one time I found an abandoned army base, and a week later this person was able to use some landmarks to trace its street address, went there and took pretty well the same shots I did, and posted it for everyone to see then started drawing up plans to offer group tours there. It's a shit thing to do and an easy power play to earn yourself fans, but it ruins and cheapens UE for the rest of us and shits on everyone's work. I get that you're grateful for Jerm sharing sensitive information with you and allowing you to follow in your footsteps, but you can probably see why more experienced, skilled explorers might not like all the publicity of sites. Hopefully someday you will develop the skills on your own and move out from under Jerm's shadow and start finding your own locations to explore; at that point, your opinion of how much he shares might change.
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