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Posted by KermitTheHermit
Mostly just my handy karambit. For cutting anything, carving into sandstone, etc. Luckily I've never had to use for defense...
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Also handy for when you're camping the bombsite and your AWP runs out of ammo
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I have had a few friends of mine ask me this same question. Including one good friend who carries his pistol with him EVERYWHERE. He was shocked to learn that neither me or my exploring partners carried any sort of weapon with us when going into these places. I told him I have yet to explore any location or area where I felt I needed a weapon. If I were in a place so sketchy that I felt I needed to be armed to feel comfortable, it's probably not a place I should be in the first place.
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you never know when bullets will go whizzing by you while you're out on an explore. its always best to carry an AR-15 in your pants. oh, and if you get shot at make sure to make a thread about it on UER, but don't come back unless you have photos of your gunshot wound....if not just lie about it
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I just carry a can of wasp and ant spray.
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Posted by RescueMe1060
you never know when bullets will go whizzing by you while you're out on an explore. its always best to carry an AR-15 in your pants. oh, and if you get shot at make sure to make a thread about it on UER, but don't come back unless you have photos of your gunshot wound....if not just lie about it
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I'm sensing something carried over from the Cali boards...
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LOL it inspired me to make a troll post
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Posted by azuro1125
I'm sensing something carried over from the Cali boards...
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Looks can be deceiving?
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Posted by RescueMe1060
you never know when bullets will go whizzing by you while you're out on an explore. its always best to carry an AR-15 in your pants. oh, and if you get shot at make sure to make a thread about it on UER, but don't come back unless you have photos of your gunshot wound....if not just lie about it
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If a man with a rifle shoots at you and bullets are whizzing by you, just raided (sic) your hand and they'll will stop. I learned that on UER...
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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Posted by Speed
Something that never seems to get mentioned in these types of threads....
Carrying any weapon, regardless of what it is, that you have not or do not train with is as good as carrying no weapon at all.
And never pull out a weapon simply to intimidate. That's the quickest way to escalate a situation and/or get yourself hurt or worse.
Doug Marcaida has a philosophy that "weapons are meant to be felt not seen"
I couldn't agree more.
Your focus should be on de-escalation and escaping the threat. A weapon is an absolute last resort.
YouTube Doug if you're interested. He is a master with a blade.
Most importantly, be safe and listen to your gut. If your gut is telling you that you don't belong someplace heed it and get out.
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Exactly. If you think it's such a bad place that you need a weapon, you have no business going there.
Once you brandish a weapon, you are committed to using it or have it potentially used against you. Brandishing a weapon is a felony in most states. A gun can be more of a liability than an asset.
You pull a weapon better strike hard and fast. If someone pulls a gun on you, you won't have time to unholster your weapon more than likely.
Your best bet is to run and put distant behind you and the shooter. Each foot further away makes a hit less likely... or bum rush them and hope they choke.
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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brandishing is also considered strong arm robbery, armed robbery.
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The only thing I shoot with? My camera. So really, I don't bring anything. I try to take precautions (not travelling alone, leaving when I don't feel safe, etc.) I wouldn't want to be caught with anything incriminating; it would be a lot harder to explain/justify my presence.
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Haha i explore with my dad, im only 12 so if i were to be in a bad situation i'd have to run, I have a little pepper spray keychain but thats about it
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Posted by George M.
Haha i explore with my dad, im only 12 so if i were to be in a bad situation i'd have to run, I have a little pepper spray keychain but thats about it
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I just wanted to give you your first like. So I did. Yay sports!!
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I would be hesitant to bring weapons with me on an explore. When I kit up for an explore, I assume that I will be caught. For every item I pack, I ask myself whether a cop would find such an item suspicious.
If I did run across someone unsavory, I would either talk them down, run hell for leather, or use an object around me as a weapon.
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Posted by crockett85
If I did run across someone unsavory, I would either talk them down, run hell for leather, or use an object around me as a weapon.
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How about not saying anything verbal, rub your nose, and walk away?
Always limit information to a would be attacker.
Each situation is different, but attackers generally choose their victims and ignore those who look like too much trouble. How you present yourself to them matters. I tend to look people and animals straight in the eye. No need for small talk. I shoot them down if they ask for anything without hesitation; that's one of the ways a potential attacker gauges you.
Most attackers have a specific pattern they like to follow; breaking that pattern takes them out of their comfort zone. With a mugger walking parallel to you across the street, breaking into a jog may be all that's needed. The quicker you can ID them as a threat and the more distance between you and them, the better. Distance buys you time(more options) and makes an attack more problematic for the attacker.
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I had two guys in their 20's drive up to where I was sleeping in my van recently. Stopped their car behind my van and the driver gets out about 5 feet from my rear door. I realized it wasn't a cop.
Me: Why you bothering me? *My 500 lumen flashlight pointed at his face from outside the rear window*
Him: You work here?
Me: *silence*
Him: Mind if we shoot off a few rounds? (That spot is used for illegal target practice)
Me: Like hell you are! (I was tired and pissed, the words boomed from my mouth without hesitation)
Without another word he got into the car and drove off.
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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Posted by blackhawk
How about not saying anything verbal, rub your nose, and walk away?
Always limit information to a would be attacker.
Each situation is different, but attackers generally choose their victims and ignore those who look like too much trouble. How you present yourself to them matters. I tend to look people and animals straight in the eye. No need for small talk. I shoot them down if they ask for anything without hesitation; that's one of the ways a potential attacker gauges you.
Most attackers have a specific pattern they like to follow; breaking that pattern takes them out of their comfort zone. With a mugger walking parallel to you across the street, breaking into a jog may be all that's needed. The quicker you can ID them as a threat and the more distance between you and them, the better. Distance buys you time(more options) and makes an attack more problematic for the attacker.
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I had two guys in their 20's drive up to where I was sleeping in my van recently. Stopped their car behind my van and the driver gets out about 5 feet from my rear door. I realized it wasn't a cop.
Me: Why you bothering me? *My 500 lumen flashlight pointed at his face from outside the rear window*
Him: You work here?
Me: *silence*
Him: Mind if we shoot off a few rounds? (That spot is used for illegal target practice)
Me: Like hell you are! (I was tired and pissed, the words boomed from my mouth without hesitation)
Without another word he got into the car and drove off.
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Yeah that makes a lot of sense. Volunteering info can be a bad idea. I'll admit that I am bad when it comes to answering questions for people who don't deserve an answer. I wish I was able to naturally carry myself with more authority.
Fortunately I haven't had a lot of confrontations like that so I haven't had much experience with the body language stuff. I can definitely see it being a useful skill to learn though.
Pretty scary example you gave blackhawk. As soon as they mentioned firing off rounds, I would be scared about what they were going to use as a target!
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Posted by crockett85
Yeah that makes a lot of sense. Volunteering info can be a bad idea. I'll admit that I am bad when it comes to answering questions for people who don't deserve an answer. I wish I was able to naturally carry myself with more authority.
Fortunately I haven't had a lot of confrontations like that so I haven't had much experience with the body language stuff. I can definitely see it being a useful skill to learn though.
Pretty scary example you gave blackhawk. As soon as they mentioned firing off rounds, I would be scared about what they were going to use as a target!
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Volunteering info to a potential attacker is always a bad idea unless it gives you an edge. Otherwise it's none of their business. Not everyone is your friend and some could care less if you live or die.
There's more than one approach many times, but I prefer short and concise. When I'm pissed I'm in control but outside the situation almost like a game, poker. They call your bluff, raise the ante... using physical force is the last option, but on the table. Letting them know they're in for a hard ride can many times can keep a confrontation from spiraling out of control. Unpredictability is an asset.
Playing on their fears can work to your advantage. That's what you do when you take them outside their comfort zone. Anger is your ally and a more useful emotion than fear. People and animals can sense fear.
A novice attacker is different from a hard core thug. They haven't thought it through or experienced what reactions they will encounter. Hesitation is typical of a novice, nonetheless if they go froggy on you, better have a plan.
Best to avoid sketchy encounters whenever possible. Some are not directly avoidable.
-Be aware of your surroundings at all times.- Have a plan A, B, etc.
Don't let yourself get boxed in, be it on foot or in a vehicle. I leave at least a car length between me and the vehicle in front of me at a stop with room to drive out of it if need be. Stack the deck in your favor.
Think about situations that went bad for others and what they could have done to alter the outcome. Learn from others mistakes. That's why cops use real crime scene cam footage in training from encounters that went south.
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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I am always armed with a sharp wit and a can do attitude.
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Posted by yokes
I am always armed with a sharp wit and a can do attitude.
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well stated !
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If you count a multi-tool, sure.
I quit carrying my Gerber fixed blade on my belt after a nerve-wracking run in with a couple of Detroit's finest last year.. It wasn't the most enjoyable experience. Know your knife and blade-length laws when carrying in another state!
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