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"ghost"
Location: Colorado Gender: Male Total Likes: 31 likes
I climb. I jump. I explore.
| | | Re: Thoughts on Graffiti < Reply # 22 on 4/6/2020 5:55 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by selectedgrub I wanna see "prestigious" decay and not some scribble.
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Ah, that is an interesting argument and I most definitely agree. Some of the coolest places I've ventured gave me the peculiar sensation that time had frozen, and a big neon tag definitely kills that completely. I think this gets back to my main internal conflict and why I wrote this post. For me at least, tags work some places and totally kill the experience others; I'm trying to figure out why that is. Looking at it from this angle, I think the condition of the building/whatever makes a huge difference. If it looks like the people got up and left yesterday (even though it was 20 years ago), then for me painting on that snapshot of history would be sacrilege. On the other hand, if it's a "forgotten" hollowed out husk of a building, then paint seems like a potential (key word choice - depends on the content) way to make a place a bit less hard on the eyes. I dunno, if my argument's dumb then I'd love to hear why. Posted by blackhawk A linger doubt of confidence follows UER members who like them.
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Obviously I'm new to this forum, and you've probably been exploring places since I was shittin in diapers, but I don't agree with you here. Just to be clear, I don't want some stupid pointless argument, I actually want your opinion if you're willing to share. One of the biggest reasons I go exploring new areas is to be able to see, up close and personal, snapshots from the Before Time (whenever that may be). Just by walking through an old school room or a long forgotten work office, you can see how Real People lived and worked back in the day. From exploring enough places of varying ages, it seems clear to me that every single building goes through different stages between when it's built and when it turns to ash. There's construction, then the main use, then the peaceful slumber of abandonment, followed finally by... artwork? Obviously the most rewarding exploration (for me at least) is when you find an untouched, preserved area, but that doesn't mean I can't appreciate the beauty in a derelict structure that's been brought forward in history and repurposed as a canvas. But, like I said, a lot depends on what's painted where, so I'll concede that most of the time it's annoying bullshit. I guess I just view it as part of the lifecycle of the location... I'm not an optimist. Also, anyone who thinks I'm blindly advocating for graffiti needs to reread this thread - I'm interested in learning different (and more developed) arguments on the matter, to see what you guys think. In retrospect, I probably could've picked a more PC topic as my introduction to this community, but I've never been a fan of all that spoon-fed PC bullshit anyway. The weather's great, cloudy with a chance of plague!
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| Steed
Location: Edmonton/Seoul Gender: Male Total Likes: 2663 likes
Your Friendly Neighbourhood Race Traitor
| | | | Re: Thoughts on Graffiti < Reply # 37 on 4/14/2020 5:33 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by "ghost" Maybe? I'm not so sure though, I think a lot of serious artists define "going further" not as "I'm going to go paint a dick on this church steeple" but more as trying to get crazier artwork that uses more advanced techniques. From what I've seen on this thread, it seems like a lot of the graffiti most of us have a problem with is the super low effort names and dicks that take 5 seconds to put up. If an artist tries to "go further" by posting themselves writing their name 200 times, I think they'd be shelled just as hard by the graffiti community as they would be by the urbex community. I can't say I know much about the graffiti community though, so I'm not sure. It does seem to me like the intricate, high-effort paintings seem to follow some ethics though, they don't just pop up everywhere.
| My limited experience seems to suggest the top taggers are the ones who have the most tags in the craziest places, and the ones who have done it in the most countries. It's about quantity, not quality, and someone who spends more than 10 minutes making a nice mural is just making their work a target for taggers. Also as I've seen, there can be one tagger who does some nice murals, as well as scribbles his tag everywhere.
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| Speed
Location: Philly area Gender: Male Total Likes: 592 likes
Retired Explorer
| | | Re: Thoughts on Graffiti < Reply # 39 on 4/14/2020 9:20 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | I have followed the graffiti culture for years as it intrigues me. Even read a few books about it. I have a good amount of graffiti pictures as there is a active train yard close to my house. While I am not a writer (I dabble a bit on paper but definitely a toy) I know a few that are somewhat prolific in my area and extremely talented. My youngest son did a workshop a few years back and I got to meet a few "alleged" writers. Posted by Natchraz A toy is usually a “graffiti artist” who scrawls smaller unreadable tags everywhere, and doesn’t have actual pieces.
| A "toy" is a few things... mainly someone that is just starting out and lacks skill. It can also be someone who has some skill but has not earned the respect of others in the graff community. Basically anyone that starts out in the subculture is a toy. Toy and rookie are synonymous. Posted by Natchraz From my background knowledge, most actual graffiti artists stick by a set of “morals” which includes not tagging houses, cars, churches, natural sites etc..
| This is wholly accurate. There is absolutely a "code" among writers just as there is a code amongst explorers. "take only pictures, leave only footprints" Does everyone follow the code?... absolutely not. The are many, many parallels between the 2 subcultures. There are also codes, or rules if you will about covering pieces and damaging another artists work. This is taken extremely seriously among writers. There have been some epic graffiti beefs through the years. some have ended tragically. Theres a few good youtube vids on graffiti beefs. you may enjoy this old thread... http://www.uer.ca/...id=1&msgid=1907012 Love it or hate it graffiti is a natural progression of decay. No different that broken windows, soggy floors and lonely chairs.
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