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| | | Backwoods Rural Exploring < on 7/12/2017 3:08 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | This weekend, I'll be exploring a new terrain- backwoods rural abandonments. Almost everything I've explored up until now has been urban, and I'm familiar with the hazards and risks of urban abandonments. However, the abandonments I'll be exploring this weekend (there's a whole resort full) are known for being extremely sketchy. They are deep in the Northwoods of Wisconsin, and some are along the backroads. This is the type of area where shotgun- wielding loners chased my boss, mother bears are known to roam, and cell phone service is spotty at best. So, any tips for this different terrain? How much different is a backwoods rural exploration from a inner city exploration?
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| | | Re: Backwoods Rural Exploring < Reply # 2 on 7/12/2017 6:01 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Completely different thing to be honest. Biggest things I'd mention: -making sure you know exactly where you are going. -leaving a map of that location with friend/family with a 'if I'm not back or call by X time, call the police' note. In case of no cell service, it can save your ass. On your person: -bring a good blowout/trauma kit and know how to use it. This includes quikclot, a SAM split, and Izzy wrap, plus other stuff. BUT if you get injured, a kit like this can and will save your ass. -extra batteries -reflective/high visibility paracord and or trail marker tacks in case it gets dark. That way you can still find your way back to your vehicle by following the reflective stuff -bear/wildlife defence at minimum bear spray and/or an air horn -map and lensatic compass (if you know how to use one) or GPS -bug spray -gaffers tape. Useful for a million things, including closing the gaps on your clothes (ankles and wrist for example) to keep ticks/whatever out.
In your vehicle: -extra batteries, food, water, survival stuff to stay in your vehicle. -extra fluids for the vehicle, can or two of fixaflat, a good jack, prepped spare, etc. -overnight kit just in case (minimum of a space blanket, some kind of heat control, extra water, etc) -shovel, saw, come along, etc to get unstuck or clear a trail -bug netting (personal or area) Personally, and take this from a guy in a tiny spot in Alaska, there other things as well. -I have a 5w UHF radio on me, plus a high output one built into my truck just in case. -Firearm on my person, plus a long gun in the truck or on me as well. -just added a military signal roll to the truck -larger medkit in the truck plus food, water, propane stove, survival kit, etc. -a bunch of other stuff that likely isn't too relevant outside AK
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| skatchkins
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| | | | Re: Backwoods Rural Exploring < Reply # 3 on 7/12/2017 3:06 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | For these types of situations, I ALWAYS have my camera out, visible around my neck. If someone sees you first, they can make non-threatening assumptions hopefully first. I have found this, plus even a nicer (polo with a collar) shirt helps them arrive at maybe not why you're actually our there, but what you probably aren't out there for. Like the cowboy who didn't know what the hell we thought we were doing, but also knew we weren't the cattle rustlers returning for more of his livestock. IMO also, if spotted, fight your instinct to turn and hide and walk towards a property owner with a touristy wave and a handshake ready if you can sneak it in before any other words are exchanged. Ask a question to get them thinking a different route, like "Man this place is great, I've been trying to figure out some history of the area, do you know how long ago this was built?" You could have also been following some deer out for photos and gotten sidetracked. I'd say member, Peptic Ulcer, has this stuff pretty down pat too. Although he's a little more creative in his stories. It doesn't hurt either to have a couple local names at hand, like a nearby ranch, hill name, anything to show you are actually there to learn and explore. Topo maps are great for that, including finding structures that you can't Google Earth through the trees to actually see.
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| | | | Re: Backwoods Rural Exploring < Reply # 4 on 7/12/2017 3:17 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Run if you hear banjos playing... Posted by skatchkins For these types of situations, I ALWAYS have my camera out, visible around my neck.
| When I'm carrying a cam and lense worth a couple grand unless I'm shooting it stays stowed. One trip is all it takes... and a face full of cam won't help your looks any. I make eye contact a priority. Never had any issues... but than I've always been lucky like that. Only time the cam is in my hands and I'm not shooting (never wear them on my neck, but do keep a tether on it) is when I want a weapon. I wouldn't hesitate to put a pro cam into a bad guy's head, it wouldn't hurt it Keep tripods out of sight when not in use. They can been misinterpreted as a rifle. Been there, done $that$
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| | | | Re: Backwoods Rural Exploring < Reply # 7 on 7/17/2017 4:01 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by 2Xplorations Not being prejudice towards city dwellers or anything but if you have to mark your trail to find your way back to your car, youre just not ready for the bush. Also Im all for being prepared, carry as much junk (junk=weight) as you want but the best thing you can carry is knowledge and experience. You cant buy those at REI or the Army Navy surplus outlet. Spend time in the backwoods learn how to navigate and travel. The simple fact is most of the stuff you can find to explore in rural areas is near a road so a wilderness expedition type assault effort probably wont be required. Just a lot of walking if you cant drive in. Good luck. Wear good boots.
| Truth. Better memorize the area before you go in. Water is the most important item and the heaviest. Don't bring useless junk. Bush towel, walking stick, hat, shades, no shorts, long sleeves. High top lace up boots; protect your ankles. You can't afford to be incapacitated by an injury; think before you move. Never expect to be rescued if you fuck up.
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| | | Re: Backwoods Rural Exploring < Reply # 8 on 7/17/2017 9:48 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by blackhawk
Truth. Better memorize the area before you go in. Water is the most important item and the heaviest. Don't bring useless junk. Bush towel, walking stick, hat, shades, no shorts, long sleeves. High top lace up boots; protect your ankles. You can't afford to be incapacitated by an injury; think before you move. Never expect to be rescued if you fuck up.
| True, BUT being able to navigate/find your way out if you get lost or turned around is also a vitally important skill. Lots of people have gotten turned around and ended up dying/starving/whatever within a few miles of a major road because they couldn't find their location. So both are important. Knowing the target area and truly understanding how to find your way out with a minimum of gear if something does happen. +1 on water. You can go for weeks if needed without food, but trust me when I say that the 3 days without water is spot on. Out of personal experience, I can say that I'd have made a deal with the devil and murdered someone for a cup of water after 3 days. (I was in the hospital NPO, so despite IV hydration/nutrition, I was still having the GI side issues of severe dehydration/lack of food) Useless junk is... useless. Ounces make pounds, and pounds make pain if you have to hump it out. Is also why I leave the heavier stuff in the truck and take the safe minimum in with me. GOOD high top boots. Cheapo walmart ones will fail you in an emergency. If you are serious about stuff like this, get a good set of Danner, Red Wing, etc and break them in properly. Not doing so will lead to bloody feet and agony walking. Btw, that does remind me. Grab a pack or two of moleskin for the bag. Helps a ton if you have to do long hikes/rucks. Just cut a strip of it and put it on the back of your heels/ankles. Saves a lot of wear and tear on your skin. Most of all, understand and know what you are doing. Even experts can and have gotten killed over silly shit they forget or skip. If you aren't 110% sure of your skillset, bring someone who knows. Mostly I say this about Alaska, but nature in general fits it. Respect the land and understand it, or it'll kill you.
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