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Leo Neblung
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| | | Re: Looking for tips for shooting in abandonments < Reply # 3 on 8/2/2016 6:48 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by red utricle What's so great about using a tripod? The primary use of tripods in UE photography is to allow you to keep the camera still during long exposures. What's the best way to get photos in the very dark places? The best way to take photos in low light conditions is to use a tripod. If it is very dark, you should even use the bulb mode and/or use a flashlight to illuminate the room or area. I'd advise caution using your flashlight if you don't want other people to know you are in the building. Should the majority of photos be left unedited or is it really just a matter of opinion? Everything is a matter of opinion, but thats not to say we can't debate and reason one way or another. Many contemporary photographers (*not photojournalists) consider post processing a useful part in creating a photograph. Many pioneers in photographer also held this philosophy (see: Ansel Adams). The fact is that there is no way to take a photo objectively. Just in the decision of pointing the camera at a subject you begin to take a subjective view, skewing the objectivity of reality to show the audience what you think is important, and in a way that they may not see it. This continues with framing and lighting of the subject, and with the in-camera processing of the image that you don't have any control over. What is better for editing, photoshop or lightroom? (I have both) Photoshop is used for heavy editing, like removing things from the image, or completely inventing a part of the scene. Many people like Lightroom as a more streamlined workflow for quick editing that doesn't require making new adjustment layers and masks. Also any tips for editing would be great. Find an aesthetic you like, and see if there are any tutorials on the web that demonstrate how to achieve it.
| Thank you, this information is great, it has really helped me.
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| OkapisRule
Location: Atlanta, GA Gender: Male Total Likes: 99 likes
| | | | Re: Looking for tips for shooting in abandonments < Reply # 8 on 8/3/2016 12:36 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Off camera flash can also look great, but it's usually a pain to lug a flash system around, and you probably wouldn't want to invest in one unless you take a lot of model pictures. (It costs about $100 for a basic setup with umbrella, stand, and cord, not counting the flash.) The main reason on camera flash looks bad, even if it's a speedlight mounted on the top of the camera, is that the shadows fall straight away from the camera, making the subject look very flat. This can be avoided by bouncing the flash off the ceiling instead of pointing it forward, but this is not always an option, such as if the ceiling is too high or the wrong color.
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| Leo Neblung
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| | | Re: Looking for tips for shooting in abandonments < Reply # 9 on 8/3/2016 12:55 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by OkapisRule Off camera flash can also look great, but it's usually a pain to lug a flash system around, and you probably wouldn't want to invest in one unless you take a lot of model pictures. (It costs about $100 for a basic setup with umbrella, stand, and cord, not counting the flash.) The main reason on camera flash looks bad, even if it's a speedlight mounted on the top of the camera, is that the shadows fall straight away from the camera, making the subject look very flat. This can be avoided by bouncing the flash off the ceiling instead of pointing it forward, but this is not always an option, such as if the ceiling is too high or the wrong color.
| Yea an off camera flash wouldn't make much sense to use for my purposes, but I'm glad I'm getting this information about the on camera flash. I will likely just try using my flashlight to light up the photos in the darkest places, and attempt to use my tripod in places with some light.
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| Leo Neblung
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| | | Re: Looking for tips for shooting in abandonments < Reply # 11 on 8/3/2016 1:01 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by blackhawk Start shooting RAW images. Post processing is always needed but you gain +/- at least 3 f/stops worth of leeway for exposure and WB correction as well as the ability to change picture style after the shoot. You don't have to shoot in very dark areas many times at sites and sometimes your time is better spent skirting these areas when headhunting for keepers.
| I don't have much experience or knowledge with the different settings and functions on my camera, but maybe you can help me here... How do I shoot in RAW images? And what do you mean by "picture style"?
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| red utricle
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| | | Re: Looking for tips for shooting in abandonments < Reply # 12 on 8/3/2016 2:16 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | If you go into the quality settings in your camera menu, you can select to shoot in RAW or RAW & .jpg I beleive blackhawk meant picture style by the in-camera processing settings, such as 'neutral','landscape','portrait'. These are permanently applied to .jpg, as the RAW image is only adjusted by an .xmp (metadata) file. It may sound kind of confusing, but essentially a RAW image file is all of the data that comes directly from the camera sensor (lossless compression). Unfortunately these files are really large, so usually we use .jpgs or other file types to store (lossy) compressed images. The lossy compression reduces data in the file that isn't essential, like the details in the darkest shadows or the brightest highlights. However, if you shoot RAW, you can go back and recover these details in Lightroom or photoshop. If you mess up a shot and over/under expose, you can often recover it in post processing. Furthermore, noise reduction is vastly superior using RAW images, so if you take a super long exposure, you can get an even better image with processing. As a rule of thumb, I would always shoot raw if you are shooting long exposures.
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| Leo Neblung
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| | | Re: Looking for tips for shooting in abandonments < Reply # 15 on 8/3/2016 2:53 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by red utricle If you go into the quality settings in your camera menu, you can select to shoot in RAW or RAW & .jpg I beleive blackhawk meant picture style by the in-camera processing settings, such as 'neutral','landscape','portrait'. These are permanently applied to .jpg, as the RAW image is only adjusted by an .xmp (metadata) file. It may sound kind of confusing, but essentially a RAW image file is all of the data that comes directly from the camera sensor (lossless compression). Unfortunately these files are really large, so usually we use .jpgs or other file types to store compressed images. The compression reduces data in the file that isn't essential, like the details in the darkest shadows or the brightest highlights. However, if you shoot RAW, you can go back and recover these details in Lightroom or photoshop. If you mess up a shot and over/under expose, you can often recover it in post processing. Furthermore, noise reduction is vastly superior using RAW images, so if you take a super long exposure, you can get an even better image with processing. As a rule of thumb, I would always shoot raw if you are shooting long exposures.
| Thank you, I'll try putting this information to use, and ill message you if I have any questions relating to what you've told me
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| | | | Re: Looking for tips for shooting in abandonments < Reply # 16 on 8/4/2016 1:14 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by red utricle If you go into the quality settings in your camera menu, you can select to shoot in RAW or RAW & .jpg I beleive blackhawk meant picture style by the in-camera processing settings, such as 'neutral','landscape','portrait'. These are permanently applied to .jpg, as the RAW image is only adjusted by an .xmp (metadata) file. It may sound kind of confusing, but essentially a RAW image file is all of the data that comes directly from the camera sensor (lossless compression). Unfortunately these files are really large, so usually we use .jpgs or other file types to store (lossy) compressed images. The lossy compression reduces data in the file that isn't essential, like the details in the darkest shadows or the brightest highlights. However, if you shoot RAW, you can go back and recover these details in Lightroom or photoshop. If you mess up a shot and over/under expose, you can often recover it in post processing. Furthermore, noise reduction is vastly superior using RAW images, so if you take a super long exposure, you can get an even better image with processing. As a rule of thumb, I would always shoot raw if you are shooting long exposures.
| Exactly. An -excellent- explanation Downside to RAWs are you need to edited them and you need more storage space for the RAW files than jpegs. Canon's DPP app is a fast, powerful tool perfect for fast editing RAWs if you shoot with a Canon. It isn't a ram or CPU hog and doesn't lose images; it always permits you to revert to the original image. It allows for custom color/contrast curves, batch processing, and more.
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