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| | | | Re: If religion is good, why does it cause so much bad? < Reply # 10 on 8/15/2014 9:17 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by splumer I think religion on an individual basis might be a positive; on a large scale it is a negative.
| This is a profound thought, but I don't agree with it solely based on the fact that the opposite is also true --- it's completely in the eye of the beholder. I think we make the mistake of generalizing "large scale" or better yet, "organized religion", as a homogenous group of people that have reached a consensus on values, tradition, and world-view --- these are things all organized religions have historically and contemporarily grapple with. I would argue the only negative thing religion has brought us is also the only positive thing; it inspires people to think critically about what they value and rely upon in this life and in some cases, have faith in things they don't necessarily understand, whether they are religious or not. If those values are negative, it's not the religion's fault as much so as the people that chose to interpret faith in such a negative manner. Just my 2 cents.
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| | | | Re: If religion is good, why does it cause so much bad? < Reply # 13 on 8/27/2014 6:14 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Faith is not exactly rational, but necessary for survival in most cases. I wouldn't say that I understand with a huge degree of precision why a solid, which is mostly "not matter," is "solid," but I have to have faith that it is. Of course, that faith would have been easy if I didn't know some facts that aren't plainly observable.
I also have faith that people are good. There is plenty of evidence to contradict that belief, but I prefer to live my life with that belief, because it helps shape my attitude and interactions with others, in what I think is a positive way.
Related: I saw someone looking for a definition of religion for a class this morning. I proposed "Religion is a system of beliefs so strongly held that they are resistant to actual experience, observation, or logic." Obviously the reasons for maintaining those religious beliefs tie into what I was saying above: They serve the believer in some way, even if they don't make sense to a rational observer.
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| | | Re: If religion is good, why does it cause so much bad? < Reply # 16 on 12/7/2014 5:09 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | religion/faith has never been about good. It has been about control. When the concept of god (or gods the further back you go) was created in the absence of any scientific reality. What was all that stuff in the sky at night? No one thought that they were other stars like the one during the day, so it was blamed on god, or again gods of the sky, of the night, etc. As history went on, there were a few enterprising chaps that realized that hey wait a minute, these saps actually buy into this shit. Well, let's simplify the entire thing... Pantheism gave way to monotheism. Did you realize that the entire christian faith has been ripped off from the ancient egyptian? How's that for a big fat sack of laugh laugh laugh? Anyways, so as time has gone on, faith is about control. Controlling what you think, how you think, what you do, how you reason (or choose not to) all in the name of an invisible friend. Faith and religion are bad because it takes an otherwise rational person and convinces them that the irrational is in the drivers' seat of the world around them. that's it in a nutshell... i could probably do better on my case, but I just woke up and am eating tofu. Sue me.
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| | | | Re: If religion is good, why does it cause so much bad? < Reply # 17 on 12/8/2014 8:34 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Samurai religion/faith has never been about good. It has been about control. When the concept of god (or gods the further back you go) was created in the absence of any scientific reality. What was all that stuff in the sky at night? No one thought that they were other stars like the one during the day, so it was blamed on god, or again gods of the sky, of the night, etc. As history went on, there were a few enterprising chaps that realized that hey wait a minute, these saps actually buy into this shit. Well, let's simplify the entire thing... Pantheism gave way to monotheism. Did you realize that the entire christian faith has been ripped off from the ancient egyptian? How's that for a big fat sack of laugh laugh laugh? Anyways, so as time has gone on, faith is about control. Controlling what you think, how you think, what you do, how you reason (or choose not to) all in the name of an invisible friend. Faith and religion are bad because it takes an otherwise rational person and convinces them that the irrational is in the drivers' seat of the world around them. that's it in a nutshell... i could probably do better on my case, but I just woke up and am eating tofu. Sue me.
| Let's specifically talk about Gnosticism and the destruction of the way of Jesus... The Catholic Church as we know it was born when church leaders realized the Gnostic concept that everyone was a child of God (and thus could interact with Him at will, as per the Gospel of Peter) was going to destroy the Church hierarchy and thus, all the wealth they had (and will) acquire. The moral here? Any religious belief is easily manipulated by the epic power struggle between the wealthy who benefit from religious hierarchy and the 'faithful' who are (for the most part) poor and dependent upon religion for meaning in life. Nearly every inter-faith conflict (be it violent, spiritual, or academic) is driven by such a narrative.
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