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/-/ooligan
Location: Las Vegas area Gender: Male Total Likes: 278 likes
When in danger, when in doubt, RUN IN CIRCLES, SCREAM AND SHOUT!
| | | Re: Hurry up to visit Detroit... < Reply # 9 on 6/1/2014 9:15 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | While certainly there has been some decent progress over the past decade, each mayor, city council, etc. over the past 20 years has talked about how they're making it a priority to remove abandoned, eyesore/nuisance buildings. For example, when I moved to Detroit in 1997, there was a lot of specific talk about how Michigan Central Terminal had to either be redeveloped or demolished, & an ultimatim was given to the property owner (Manny Maroun) that if he didn't take action within a couple months, Detroit would demolish it & bill him. Since I could easily see MCT out of my living room window, I was looking forward to being a daily witness to the redevelopment, or sad witness to the tear down. But ol' Manny apparently knew he could safely ignore anything the City of Detroit said, and 17 years later... Tearing down abandoned houses is relatively easy but if it's a funding matter of doing that versus having a couple more police on the streets or spending the $$ on repairing EMS rigs, most people would prefer that. I think most of the houses that've been torn-down have been a result of federal grants & donations from corporations. Problem with taking legal possession of an abandoned commercial building with the plans of tearing it down is once you take control, you're responsible for the proper hazmat remediation -- lead paint, asbestos tiles & insulation, etc. PLUS any ground contamination, so it's infinitely cheaper for the city to just do nothing other than trying to send out legal notices.
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| DSomms
Location: Detroit Gender: Male Total Likes: 182 likes
| | | Re: Hurry up to visit Detroit... < Reply # 10 on 6/2/2014 2:40 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by /-/ooligan While certainly there has been some decent progress over the past decade, each mayor, city council, etc. over the past 20 years has talked about how they're making it a priority to remove abandoned, eyesore/nuisance buildings. For example, when I moved to Detroit in 1997, there was a lot of specific talk about how Michigan Central Terminal had to either be redeveloped or demolished, & an ultimatim was given to the property owner (Manny Maroun) that if he didn't take action within a couple months, Detroit would demolish it & bill him. Since I could easily see MCT out of my living room window, I was looking forward to being a daily witness to the redevelopment, or sad witness to the tear down. But ol' Manny apparently knew he could safely ignore anything the City of Detroit said, and 17 years later... Tearing down abandoned houses is relatively easy but if it's a funding matter of doing that versus having a couple more police on the streets or spending the $$ on repairing EMS rigs, most people would prefer that. I think most of the houses that've been torn-down have been a result of federal grants & donations from corporations. Problem with taking legal possession of an abandoned commercial building with the plans of tearing it down is once you take control, you're responsible for the proper hazmat remediation -- lead paint, asbestos tiles & insulation, etc. PLUS any ground contamination, so it's infinitely cheaper for the city to just do nothing other than trying to send out legal notices.
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| They've been demolishing houses at a pretty good clip. That's been their primary focus. Aside from the Brewsters, we haven't really lost any locations to demo lately. If it doesn't have direct proximity to downtown, I'm just don't think the plan they've laid out will make any bit of difference for explorers.
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| Sinister1
Location: Daytona Beach Florida Gender: Male Total Likes: 0 likes
| | | | Re: Hurry up to visit Detroit... < Reply # 13 on 6/5/2014 5:16 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | I was in Detroit a couple weeks ago, and like a bunch of cities it has fallen due to the economy. Some of the old structures are beautiful, too bad that no one will take responsibility of them and cleaning the mess. Not sure of the church name, but I saw the steeples being rebuilt, a good site to see.. I drive truck for a living, and seeing what was the heart of the country fall apart is really sad. The rust belt is getting rustier, i see oil wells sitting dead, roadways falling apart and old family homes that are abandoned with mobile homes next to them because they are cheaper. We need to do something as a country, before we become a third world nation... Until then exploring opportunities are massive.... a few pics from my drive through.. S1
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