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bandi Lippy Mechanic Bastard
Location: Trent Hills, ON Gender: Male Total Likes: 734 likes
A liminal mind is all I've ever known.
| | | | Hahahahahahahahahahaha... < on 2/27/2013 5:19 PM > | Reply with Quote
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| Agent Skelly Web Sheriff
Location: Oregon Territory Gender: Male Total Likes: 31 likes
Prenez De L'Avance Avec Chrysler!
| | | | | | Re: Hahahahahahahahahahaha... < Reply # 10 on 2/28/2013 9:15 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Okay, I'm going to explain the background on this now, but I am sure Bandi and others will still won't care. The "enthusiast" lineup is the Wranger and Wrangler Unlimited. Those can be customized to their desires and what not and actually are at maximun production capacitiy due to sales at Toledo Assembly. Because of the increased popularity of Subaru, Chrysler decided to go after that market using Jeep. So they created some "ligher, Sportier Jeeps" like the Patriot and Compass. I have no problem with those Jeeps because they still pass the Rubicon Test with a skilled driver, gaining the trail rated badge with that option. Even without that option, the non-Trail Rated Compass And Patriot are great "highway jeeps" And actually, they also are at max production to due to sales. I have no problem with this strategy as statistically, a first time Jeep buyer usually buys another Jeep up the ladder later. And this isn't the first time this ideas was developed; this goes back to AMC with the development of actually the Eagle. The Liberty on the other hand, which the "Cherokee X" is going to replace was a bastard child from the beginning. Originally, the Liberty was going to be looking simlar to its XJ brethern, but with a newer engine and a IFS system done in Jeep Style. However, during the German occupation of Chrysler by MB, the CEO of DalmlerChrysler was freaked out by the review from Car & Driver on the RAV4, which described as a "Cute SUV". He thought it was the direction all SUVs would be going in 5 years so he requested a re-design of the "KJ", which actually the development team at the old Jeep/Truck Engineering Divison on Plymouth Road in Detroit refused and many employees left the company in protest. What happened was a new development team was created for the "KJ" project using recently laid off Ford engineers who are mostly "yes" men and came up with the KJ Liberty. The KK continues the bastard blood actually by trying to be a "Cute XJ" but falls flat in Sales. As for the Cherokee X, I think its got merit. Sure its not going to the same as the legendary XJ but that was a different time in cars. Back then, everyone thought AMC was nuts by developing a Unibody Jeep thinking it won't be as awesome as the CJ or Grand Wagoneer. But 17 years of the XJ sales proved that wrong. With the Cherokee X, people are already saying its looks are "not Jeep-like" Same with the XJ. And whats interesting is that it apparently will have both AWD and 4WD in the same transfer case...that would give it a better advantage over Subaru which is AWD only and would interest me as someone who wants a "communter vehicle that can also go up winter roads" Rumored MPG is 20/30 which would be awesome.
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| bandi Lippy Mechanic Bastard
Location: Trent Hills, ON Gender: Male Total Likes: 734 likes
A liminal mind is all I've ever known.
| | | | Re: Hahahahahahahahahahaha... < Reply # 12 on 2/28/2013 3:34 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by jeepdave I'm not pissed that they built it, I'm pissed that they think it deserves the Cherokee name. I give it a production run of 3 years. And then I'm betting it will be scrapped. Sorry.
| ^This. It's like what VW did to the current style Jetta... it should have been a new model, not a cheaped-down replacement for a well built car that was selling like crazy to people who loved them. The new Jettas, although good, are pretty damn basic and plain compared to the previous 2 generations, and should have been called a Fox or something, while the Jetta could live on being a premium-ish car. Yes, the 2011+ Jettas are selling like crazy, but most previous Jetta owners have upgraded to Golfs or Passats because they don't want to downgrade their current car to something more basic. And I KNEW you would defend this piece of uhhh... unique vehicular excrement till the bitter end, Skelly You should get a sales job at Chrysler.
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| A. Lien
Location: Fantasy Island B.C. Gender: Male Total Likes: 17 likes
Abductees Anonymous all welcome
| | | Re: Hahahahahahahahahahaha... < Reply # 16 on 3/1/2013 6:08 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | I agree, it's a massive disgrace to Jeep and AMC to call it a Cherokee, and just stupid marketing. There are a lot of people who like or liked, or touched themselves when near a Cherokee, (especially after dragging it over some nasty non road) I liked all 3 of mine, mediocre vehicles that they were. So this is messing with fans and customers in a big way. Build your CUV clone, impractical over styled stupid yuppy yawn mobile, with near zero off road capability and miserable visibility if you must follow the sheep, but find a douchey name, and leave the Cherokee to wander free from roads and corporate idiocy. (Now I'm gonna read Skelly's post )
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| Ricky_from_TV
Location: Peterborough, Ontario Gender: Male Total Likes: 156 likes
I'm going to try and refuckulate it
| | | Re: Hahahahahahahahahahaha... < Reply # 18 on 3/6/2013 4:35 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by bandi
^This. It's like what VW did to the current style Jetta... it should have been a new model, not a cheaped-down replacement for a well built car that was selling like crazy to people who loved them. The new Jettas, although good, are pretty damn basic and plain compared to the previous 2 generations, and should have been called a Fox or something, while the Jetta could live on being a premium-ish car. Yes, the 2011+ Jettas are selling like crazy, but most previous Jetta owners have upgraded to Golfs or Passats because they don't want to downgrade their current car to something more basic.
| Yes! Having been exposed to a lot of MK2 stuff, the old jettas are quite nice they have excellent fit and finish - they feel solid. the new Jetta feels like the car for everyone with a bit of money the lower models *Gasp* i'd almost rather have something north american. Not to get off topic but i love the new Dart. as for the new jeep - Bandi i thought or wished that you were joking when you showed me that picture a couple weeks ago
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