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kkor
 
location:
NC
Gender: Male
 |  | What is your code of morals while UE'ing?
< on 8/22/2011 12:21 AM >
|  | | | Been having issues with some of my current group. Some are ok breaking locks, some are ok taking stuff... I don't take anything and I've cut a lock once but really felt bad and haven't done it again.
What do you guys consider ok? Would you cut the lock on an abandonment, would you harm any part of the building getting in? I just have a hard time justifying and calling something exploring if something gets messed up.
As for taking stuff... seen a ton of cool things I would love to display. Pool sticks from a hotel bar last night actually. Just can't really make myself take anything though even if other people think it's trash.
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Passenger
  
Gender: Female
What would you do if your life exceeds your dreams?
| | Re: What is your code of morals while UE'ing?
<Reply # 1 on 8/22/2011 12:37 AM >
| | | | You are going to get a million different answers from this board! Such a diverse bunch of people. I personally never cut a lock. Never take anything to break in with . I do my intel so I know if it has an open point of entry. If no poe, than I do not bother.
Why... because I do not want to get caught with tool and go to jail for taking a photo.
I know a nice explorer that took a map of a location with him and got caught. He got into even more trouble for having the map. This lead to the officials taking his computer and that caused jail time.
I say to be responsible and listen to that little voice inside of you.
What you do today affects the rest of your life.
Sometimes being cool is not so cool when you are alone and have regrets.
What would you do if your life exceeds your dreams? |
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secretdestroyers
 
location:
Baltimore
Gender: Male
| |  | Re: What is your code of morals while UE'ing?
<Reply # 2 on 8/22/2011 12:37 AM >
| | | | i'm going to point you to one of many threads on the subject of UE ethics
http://www.uer.ca/...urrpage=1&pp#post4
do people do things that are wrong? yes. should you do the same things? that's up to you.
SD
F this I"m going exploring! |
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Loki
 
location:
Melbourne, Australia
Gender: Male
| | Re: What is your code of morals while UE'ing?
<Reply # 3 on 8/22/2011 1:06 AM >
| | | | Just imagine how you're going to explain your choices to a judge who has the power to give you a criminal record. Then decide if you want to be involved with forced entry and theft.
Wank | Wank | Wank | Wank | Wank | Wank |
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TicTac
location:
Philly
Gender: Male
| | Re: What is your code of morals while UE'ing?
<Reply # 4 on 8/22/2011 2:53 AM >
| | | | I typically take a small souvenir home, usually something that won't be missed. As for damaging a building, the only thing I've done is knock a doorknob off of a second-story entrance. We sealed the door when we left
The Viaduct runs through the Callowhill Loft District, which is overrun with hipsters. This is just another one of those things a hipster would probably do.
-Byberian Fanman |
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Captain_Slow
 
The infamous Buttram Manfist
location:
Dallas, Tx
Gender: Male
Obviously capable of mediocre things.
| | Re: What is your code of morals while UE'ing?
<Reply # 5 on 8/22/2011 5:58 AM >
| | | | Personally, I'm just here to find places to strip of copper then burn down.
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Steed
 
location:
Edmonton/Seoul
Gender: Male
Your Friendly Neighbourhood Race Traitor
| | | Re: What is your code of morals while UE'ing?
<Reply # 6 on 8/22/2011 6:02 AM >
| | | | There's not really much any of us can do if someone else exploring with us is doing things we disagree with. We can tell them why it's a bad idea, but our only other recourse is to stop inviting them along.
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jeepdave
location:
Anderson, SC
Gender: Male
It's also a gun.
| | Re: What is your code of morals while UE'ing?
<Reply # 7 on 8/22/2011 6:22 AM >
| | | | Don't do anything while UE'ing that you wouldn't want posted on youtube. I'm watching you.
Naw, just use your gut. If it doesn't feel right, don't do it. If you're in a place that will be demoed within the week, and see a neat little sign or trinket that you want to save, don't let your ethics condemn that piece of history to a trash pile. But don't scrap out all the copper of a abandonment that has decades of life left in it. Put yourself in the shoes of the property owner and that can often dictate what you should do and what you shouldn't. If it is owned by the city or some big corp that is gonna re-purpose the land in a month, don't feel bad knocking down a door or window to see it before it is gone. Just remember what the consequences could be for you and your buddies. My 2cent.
Ezekiel 25:17 |
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Ohm Yeux
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<Reply # 8 on 8/22/2011 7:07 AM >
| | | | I've only ever left somewhere with something I didn't start with once, it was a construction site with loads of coffee, tea and milo sitting around, plus some sweet company tshirts. I sampled some tea and someone I was with took a shirt and big tin of milo, which doesn't bother me. Anything of real value would bother me however, and I don't plan on breaking anything to get into somewhere. I'd prefer to leave 0 trace of ever having been somewhere (save for the photos!).
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MutantMandias
Perverse and Often Baffling
location:
Atlanta, GA
Gender: Male
Are you a reporter? Contact me for a UE interview! Also not averse to the the idea of group/anal.
| | | Re: What is your code of morals while UE'ing?
<Reply # 9 on 8/22/2011 11:22 AM >
| | | | I tend not to even move things from where they lay... except maybe to grab some cloth or paper or something to keep the girl from screaming.
mutantMandias may cause dizziness, sexual nightmares, and sleep crime. ++++ mutantMandias has to return some videotapes ++++ Do not taunt mutantMandias
mutantMandias is something more than human, more than a computer. mutantMandias is a murderously intelligent, sensually self-programmed, non-being |
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Monkeybrainzzz
location:
Cartersville, Georgia
Gender: Male
| | Re: What is your code of morals while UE'ing?
<Reply # 10 on 8/22/2011 11:44 AM >
| | | | I'm definitely against B&E and theft just because to me it's obviously not worth the consequences. The thrill of the explore itself and the pictures are enough to take back with you. I'd rather get caught and fined than caught and jailed (although not getting called is the best option here). However; if the building was going to be leveled and trashed, I would not frown upon anyone who wished to save any artifacts from being erased from history, you would just have to decide if it's worth the risk.
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Yankee Traveler
location:
Greenfield, MA
Gender: Male
| | | Re: What is your code of morals while UE'ing?
<Reply # 11 on 8/22/2011 12:23 PM >
| | | | I've never forced entry (insert rape joke here). If the place I'm in is falling down or going to be demolished, I don't have a shred of guilt taking stuff out of it. Otherwise, I barely even move anything.
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KingJalopy
location:
Tulsa, OK
Gender: Male
I love manholes
| |  | Re: What is your code of morals while UE'ing?
<Reply # 12 on 8/22/2011 12:30 PM >
| | | | My code?
Fuck bitches, get money.
This is not entirely exclusive to UE. But mostly.
Also, bros before hoes.
Drains, drains, drains, drains, drains. |
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Squidgit
location:
Brighton Ontario
Gender: Female
There is not a sprig of grass that shoots uninteresting to me
| | | Re: What is your code of morals while UE'ing?
<Reply # 13 on 8/22/2011 1:08 PM >
| | | | Look around... enjoy... take pictures... enjoy.... leave.
The richness I achieve comes from Nature, the source of my inspiration. |
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diehard
location:
Ottawa, ON
Gender: Male
| | Re: What is your code of morals while UE'ing?
<Reply # 14 on 8/22/2011 1:34 PM >
| | | | The only thing you can control is what you do and what price you're willing to pay if you get caught.
Whether an item is going to be missed or not, are you willing to face a theft charge if you get caught? Only you can answer that question.
Are you willing to face a B&E charge if you get caught breaking that lock, cutting chain link fence, or whatever? That's all yours.
Personally, I travel a lot to the US, including family vacations every spring. A theft or B&E charge screws that up for me and my family, so I'll stick with the trespassing fine.
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Monkeybrainzzz
location:
Cartersville, Georgia
Gender: Male
| | Re: What is your code of morals while UE'ing?
<Reply # 15 on 8/22/2011 1:59 PM >
| | | | Posted by diehard
The only thing you can control is what you do and what price you're willing to pay if you get caught.
Whether an item is going to be missed or not, are you willing to face a theft charge if you get caught? Only you can answer that question.
Are you willing to face a B&E charge if you get caught breaking that lock, cutting chain link fence, or whatever? That's all yours.
Personally, I travel a lot to the US, including family vacations every spring. A theft or B&E charge screws that up for me and my family, so I'll stick with the trespassing fine.
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This pretty much sums it up. Just use your brains.
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Esoterik
location:
Kansas City
Gender: Male
| | Re: What is your code of morals while UE'ing?
<Reply # 16 on 8/22/2011 3:01 PM >
| | | | I was in an old school last week that, among left behind rummage sale stuff, was a nice trunk-mounted bicycle rack. I didn't take it though...not because of ethics, I just forgot. 
“You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons.” |
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KingJalopy
location:
Tulsa, OK
Gender: Male
I love manholes
| | | Re: What is your code of morals while UE'ing?
<Reply # 17 on 8/22/2011 3:26 PM >
| | | | Be sure to pick up all copper you see laying around, or in the walls, the stuff is pretty valuable.
I make sure to draw shitty penis murals on any wall that hasn't been vandalized, this way the potential vandals will know not to mess with that wall.
If there's glass, smash it, if you don't someone else will, and what's the fun in that?
If it's abandoned nobody owns it right? Take it! It's FREE!!!
I try to make a lot of noise as well, it's good to let any potential crack head zombies dwelling within know I'll be visiting today.
Sorry, I'm bored.
Drains, drains, drains, drains, drains. |
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bRokEnCHaRacTer
location:
Vienna, Old Europe
bRokEnVIEW.net
| | | Re: What is your code of morals while UE'ing?
<Reply # 18 on 8/22/2011 3:33 PM >
| | | | Don't break things, don't steal things ;)
brokenview.net (Everything) | brokenview.org (Portfolio) |
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MutantMandias
Perverse and Often Baffling
location:
Atlanta, GA
Gender: Male
Are you a reporter? Contact me for a UE interview! Also not averse to the the idea of group/anal.
| | | Re: What is your code of morals while UE'ing?
<Reply # 19 on 8/22/2011 3:39 PM >
| | | | Always jump on top of any pipes coming out of the ground and squat down. You might get sent to a bonus world.
[last edit 8/22/2011 3:39 PM by MutantMandias - edited 1 times]
mutantMandias may cause dizziness, sexual nightmares, and sleep crime. ++++ mutantMandias has to return some videotapes ++++ Do not taunt mutantMandias
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