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Re: Rooftopping tips and advice.
<Reply # 40 on 4/1/2012 1:16 AM >
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Of course, that's one of the basics: keep the place clean and whole. But if a getting a little bruised means I can access some place I normally could not, I wouldn't hesitate a second.
It's funny though, you sound exactly as one of my friends, so I understand what you are getting at. No place in the world is worth dying for. But I think that you are the only person who can accurately guess whether or not you can do something. Being careful is very important, but don't let it spoil your fun either


Risk is a factor in no matter what you do. It's inseparable from being with a finite life span.
Doesn't matter if it's roofs, stairs, ladders, RRs, etc. all pose additional inherit risks.

For the adrenaline junkie this is the cardinal rule:
I don't try anything, I just do it.
Failure is not an option, know your limits, and when to stop.

Baby steps before leaps of faith.
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<Reply # 41 on 4/1/2012 1:56 AM >
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So I'm unclear on the fire escape problem. Does anyone else take them or was it just a bad call?

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<Reply # 42 on 4/1/2012 2:10 AM >
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Posted by Weirdling
So I'm unclear on the fire escape problem. Does anyone else take them or was it just a bad call?


Bad call if you get arrested (or worse) in a active residential zone. New trespassing laws are on the books on many states that could elevate this to a felony level crime.
If no one is living there, all you need to be concern with is the structural integrity of the fire escape.

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<Reply # 43 on 4/2/2012 7:40 AM >
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Bad call if you get arrested (or worse) in a active residential zone. New trespassing laws are on the books on many states that could elevate this to a felony level crime.
If no one is living there, all you need to be concern with is the structural integrity of the fire escape.




I'm currently infiltrating an "active residential zone" now.
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Re: Rooftopping tips and advice.
<Reply # 44 on 4/2/2012 8:04 AM >
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Posted by Rhino604
As a retired tower crane mechanic, for the longest time I didn't care much to sneak onto rooftops since I've been on the top of a large portion of the new highrises in Vancouver and surrounding area; higher, in fact!



I'd be very interested to hear more about your thoughts and experiences with cranes.



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<Reply # 45 on 4/18/2012 11:54 PM >
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I'd be very interested to hear more about your thoughts and experiences with cranes.





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<Reply # 46 on 4/19/2012 12:22 AM >
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How difficult is it to pull down a fire escape from street level? Any specific tools needed? Once I do get it down, how do I put it back up when I get to the top or when I leave?

I know one place that has absolutely zero access, but there's a nice looking fire escape that has a ladder pulled up to the second floor.

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Re: Rooftopping tips and advice.
<Reply # 47 on 4/19/2012 12:29 AM >
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How difficult is it to pull down a fire escape from street level? Any specific tools needed? Once I do get it down, how do I put it back up when I get to the top or when I leave?

I know one place that has absolutely zero access, but there's a nice looking fire escape that has a ladder pulled up to the second floor.


It might be easier just to climb up to it. Park a vehicle under it and then climb on top. I do that with my scooter sometimes to get over fences, and nobody is ever suspicious.

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<Reply # 48 on 4/19/2012 1:21 AM >
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How difficult is it to pull down a fire escape from street level? Any specific tools needed? Once I do get it down, how do I put it back up when I get to the top or when I leave?

I know one place that has absolutely zero access, but there's a nice looking fire escape that has a ladder pulled up to the second floor.


High chances that the fire escape won't be accessible from the outside in, and definitely not from the street level. You'd have to get inside the building by the regular access door (maybe during business hours if it's that type of a building) and then find the fire escape doors from the inside. Look for the green 'Exit' signs, they'll lead you where you want to go.

That's only just getting into the fire escape though. You never know, you head all the way up and the roof just may be locked. But it's worth a shot; I've encountered a roof where it was just open!

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<Reply # 49 on 4/19/2012 4:39 AM >
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you take a wet newspaper and tie a string/light rope around it. Throw it between the rungs of the fire escape, let it tangle itself, and pull it down. Does not work if rusted.

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<Reply # 50 on 4/19/2012 4:58 AM >
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Posted by shotgun mario
you take a wet newspaper and tie a string/light rope around it. Throw it between the rungs of the fire escape, let it tangle itself, and pull it down. Does not work if rusted.


That is actually quite clever.
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<Reply # 51 on 4/19/2012 1:50 PM >
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I guess I've lucked out, all the ones in my city can be reached standing and pull down easily. It's the fact that every single one of them is in the city center, a widely traveled area, and you're always visible. I only had the gahl to do it once and damned near got busted. I just happened to get the fuck out quick enough.

So what I struggle with is infiltrating buildings with interior roof access.

What exactly do you do when you waltz into a place and head up? Here's my concerns.


  • Check in desk/secretary--how do you handle it?



  • Do you take the elevator then switch to stairs?



  • Actual access to the roof...where is it, how do you?


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Re: Rooftopping tips and advice.
<Reply # 52 on 4/19/2012 2:20 PM >
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I guess I've lucked out, all the ones in my city can be reached standing and pull down easily. It's the fact that every single one of them is in the city center, a widely traveled area, and you're always visible. I only had the gahl to do it once and damned near got busted. I just happened to get the fuck out quick enough.

So what I struggle with is infiltrating buildings with interior roof access.

What exactly do you do when you waltz into a place and head up? Here's my concerns.


  • Check in desk/secretary--how do you handle it?



Over here the desk is usually manned by a security guard. If he stops me, I ask if there's a washroom.

Posted by Weirdling

  • Do you take the elevator then switch to stairs?



Here's a better idea: hit the stairs to get you out of the lobby, then switch to elevator as high as it'll take you.

Posted by Weirdling


  • Actual access to the roof...where is it, how do you?



I have a feeling it's different in Korea, but almost all rooftop access is through the stairwells.

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Re: Rooftopping tips and advice.
<Reply # 53 on 4/19/2012 3:58 PM >
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Posted by Weirdling
So what I struggle with is infiltrating buildings with interior roof access.

What exactly do you do when you waltz into a place and head up? Here's my concerns.


  • Check in desk/secretary--how do you handle it?


Lobby security can usually be walked past without worry, especially during business hours. Just don't look like a scrub, act like you belong. Age trumps youth, here.

Apartment security/doors are best handled by blending in with a small group and "yoinking in" behind them.

Alternatively, I've had luck using the directory: Pick a name on one end of the board, call a number on the opposite end of the board and say you're trying to make a surprise visit to the name. I honestly hate how well this works.

Also, holding an imaginary cell phone conversation with a tenant until someone else comes. "Oh, nevermind, someone's just let me in. I'll be right up."

Posted by Weirdling

  • Do you take the elevator then switch to stairs?


I prefer to take the elevator up to a few floors below the top. Get out, find the stairs marked "Roof Access" and hoof it the rest of the way. Sometimes the door will lock behind you, so try and make sure you're in a stairwell marked with access before you commit. (The stairwell doors on the ground floor will let you back out, but it's a long way around if you've picked the wrong stairwell.)

Having a partner to let you back out is sometimes useful as well, because sometimes the "No Roof Access" signs lie.

Posted by Weirdling

  • Actual access to the roof...where is it, how do you?


It's usually at the top, but don't discount sub-roofs.

Most of the roof access doors I've come across have been locked, so if possible, you'll want to have a way around that once you get there. Sometimes you get lucky, though, and the roof is wide open.

Alternatively, I've been part of some extremely sketchy hatch access on top of a stairwell.

I've been on a good bunch of roofs and only one time have I been kicked off. In that case, we'd come in with the intention of by-passing a lock to find that someone else had kicked the door open earlier in the day. Security was making regular stops.

Don't give anyone any reason to talk to you.

If you do end up having to speak, know when to quit and come back another day. Leave voluntarily before things get heated, even if only to "call your friend and have them come down."

Don't overstay your welcome.

Bring a beer or something to enjoy at the top.


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<Reply # 54 on 4/19/2012 6:28 PM >
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Thanks, this is all some damned fine advice.

How do you hide or ignore the fact that you've got a backpack and tripod, and for that matter a backpack that does not fit the tripod?

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<Reply # 55 on 4/19/2012 6:43 PM >
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Get a bigger backpack and/or a smaller tripod.

I bought an inconspicuous backpack from a thrift store specifically for roofing/active structures. It's not uncommon in the office, as people commute a lot on bikes or public transportation (in a city). It's not covered in dirt/shit as it only ever gets used for this kind of thing.

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Re: Rooftopping tips and advice.
<Reply # 56 on 4/20/2012 3:37 AM >
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A little off the current topic of conversation right now, but I feel the need to say it.
I had a spare during my second hour today, so what do I do, you ask? I take a buddy of mine (hi Brandon!) and head up onto the roof of the school. This is a pretty routine climb for me, as I've done it before, many times. Anyways, there's a type of step (i.e a sturdy metal post) that is actually about waist height, used as part of a little decorative fence. Anyways, I take the usually run it takes to hop up onto this thing... Only my foot slips when it comes into contact. It goes to one side and my other foot goes to the other, and I land square on... You guessed it, the boys. And as an added 'Fuck you' from karma, as I fell off the post, I managed to mash my face into the concrete. I actually blacked out for a minute or two.
When I came too, I immediately headed for the bathroom, concerned for the well being of my future children, and sure enough, I have cuts and bruises all over my dick and testees. The pain of the road rash on my face pales in comparison.

The moral of this story?
Sometimes the worst things that can happen, happen at less than three feet off the ground. All it takes is one slippery pipe.


Also, those little octopus tripods are quite good, mainly because you can move them around inconspicuously.
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Re: Rooftopping tips and advice.
<Reply # 57 on 4/20/2012 5:19 AM >
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Hell, most of my worst injuries happen on flat concrete.

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<Reply # 58 on 4/20/2012 5:55 AM >
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Posted by Steed
Hell, most of my worst injuries happen on flat concrete.


Going by my own experiences as well, I don't doubt it one bit.
No offense.

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<Reply # 59 on 6/1/2013 2:50 AM >
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There's really no way to guarantee a success on a roof. For example, on one day, me and a friend went on a simple, 1 story elementary school roof. Easy. Next day, while riding in car past the school, I see 3 kids about 13 years old forced to lay down on the ground with their hands over their heads by 3 cops with bullhorns, because they just happened to get unlucky (When me and my friend were on the roof the previous day, a random guy threaten to call the police the next time we went on.) Well, he stayed true to his word, and the kids who came the next day were just really unlucky. So yeah, avoid really low roofs in neighborhoods full of bitchy people and bored cops.

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