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jebking
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< on 5/21/2009 4:40 PM >
|  | | | recently i found a fairly newish kind of abandoned house. It was supposed to be a model home for a suburban community but someone apparently just left it. So anyways theres like no way into the house. The doors are jammed, the windows are boarded up, and there nothing to climb on. i noticed that the plywood has screws and not bolts in it. Has anyone ever tried taking a universal screwdriver with them (eg. retract-a-bit) and unscrew the whole board?
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meshif
    
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| | Re: Boarded up windows?
<Reply # 1 on 5/21/2009 5:39 PM >
| | | | Actually, I considered doing that the other day. Then I remembered that it would step it up from a simple trespass to an all out b&e. No good.
Edit: there's a good sticky regarding this in the Ontario forum. I would suggest you go check that out to get an idea of what u can and cant get away with here.
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AnAppleSnail
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Gender: Male
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<Reply # 2 on 5/21/2009 6:23 PM >
| | | | It's not -hard- to remove boards, but it's also not wise. Especially at a 'model' house. Of course, if you're arrested with screwdriver and camera in hand, suppose they find this post? "Premeditated" is an ugly thing to tack on. I'd suggest going elsewhere, where you don't need tools for entry. Good luck.
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Once and once only I walked up to a building with tools because I wanted to secure an entrance some squatter had opened. I did it in the middle of the night, alone and with all the stealth my sneakers could give, after scoping the area for a half hour for security, then sitting and listening for another half hour; because all the security guard would see is me with tools and a half-broken barricade... I strongly suggest you get in on a local meetup to meet people, and avoid places you have to make doors for.
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N1Hawk
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Ajax, Ontario, Canada
Gender: Male
| | Re: Boarded up windows?
<Reply # 3 on 5/21/2009 6:26 PM >
| | | | Apple is right, never try to gain entry in to a place that you need tools to get into. That is B&E and also it will get you in more trouble with the police if they catch you!
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Brind
 
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Kitchener, ON
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Boarded up windows?
<Reply # 4 on 5/21/2009 6:28 PM >
| | | | Just be smart.
Sure, unscrewing a board can be fine, but don't be stupid about it, and make sure everything is sealed again when you leave. Don't do anything irreversible to gain entry.
The number of cool places we see on this site would greatly diminish if people only went where there were open doors and obvious entrances.
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willskith
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| | | | Re: Boarded up windows?
<Reply # 5 on 5/21/2009 6:31 PM >
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Very useful.
Only unscrew it far enough so you can peel it back and crawl in. If its newly abandoned, chances are the window behind the board is still in tact, so you better be comfortable with breaking some stuff if you are going to put in the effort of getting the screws out.
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IDChris
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| | Re: Boarded up windows?
<Reply # 6 on 5/21/2009 10:29 PM >
| | | | Don't forget the fact that once you get the board off, you still have to deal with a locked window. Boards help with vandalism as well as security.
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jebking
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Newmarket, Ontario
Gender: Male
poop on a pumpernickel
| | Re: Boarded up windows?
<Reply # 7 on 5/21/2009 11:43 PM >
| | | | it was abandoned pretty recently but the windows on the second story already have holes from rocks in them, i couldn't open the back door even though the handle could turn all the way. I was just about to break the thing down until i realized that i would get in some deep doo doo if i was cought. So yeah i never really thought about B and E... ill try to be more careful
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Insitor
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Gender: Male
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| | Re: Boarded up windows?
<Reply # 8 on 5/22/2009 2:37 AM >
| | | | Wouldn't unscrewing all those screws take a ridiculously long amount of time?
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Gender: Male
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| | | Re: Boarded up windows?
<Reply # 9 on 5/22/2009 2:40 AM >
| | | | We've taken out an entire window to get OUT of an abandonment before.
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AnAppleSnail
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Charlotte, NC
Gender: Male
ALL the flashlights!
| | | | Re: Boarded up windows?
<Reply # 10 on 5/22/2009 4:46 PM >
| | | | Posted by jebking
it was abandoned pretty recently but the windows on the second story already have holes from rocks in them, i couldn't open the back door even though the handle could turn all the way. I was just about to break the thing down until i realized that i would get in some deep doo doo if i was cought. So yeah i never really thought about B and E... ill try to be more careful
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Houses aren't that hard to climb. Doesn't it have a porch with windows above the roof? Broken windows often open easily, although climbing in windows is pretty iffy, as far as the hey-what-are-you-doing-there test goes.
Posted by Insitor
Wouldn't unscrewing all those screws take a ridiculously long amount of time?
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Posted by TheVicariousVadder
We've taken out an entire window to get OUT of an abandonment before.
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Unscrewing boards? Depends on how many screws. Sometimes there are 4 screws, which takes about 2-3 minutes, and sometimes it's more. Plan on about a minute per screw, and a 4x8 sheet of plywood is actually pretty awkward to hold while you get the last one out. Ratchet tool for anything is more noise than you want to make though - patterned noise is the worst for stealth. Although my dad mentioned that when on stage crew he could mute his ratchet tools with grease, or vaseline if it's warm out. It can be done with a bit of speed, but B&E is still not a good idea. It's a house in a neighborhood, likely with an awful lot of clear space around.
Word to the new: A board removed and sitting on the ground while you're inside is suspicious. You can either think of ways to close the board behind you, or you shouldn't consider this an option.
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| | | Re: Boarded up windows?
<Reply # 11 on 5/22/2009 5:03 PM >
| | | | Posted by AnAppleSnail
Unscrewing boards? Depends on how many screws.
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Oh, no. I mean the entire window. We didn't break or damage the window. We just unscrewed the hinges and pulled the whole thing out; left it in the hallway. The location is going to be demo'd soon anyways; like less than 15 days. But it was the only way we could have escaped without being caught. I was like hey now if we get caught this is technically is breaking & entering unscrewing a window & leaving.
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willskith
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Gender: Male
| | | | Re: Boarded up windows?
<Reply # 12 on 5/22/2009 6:05 PM >
| | | | Taking out an entire board is a stupid idea. Even if the board is new, it should bend enough to get through if you only unscrew it a little more than half way. If done correctly it will fall back in place after you go through it.
This is the only picture representation I can offer. You can barely see the light leaking through the board. The frame was rotten enough that I could tear the board right out without unscrewing anything. I peeled it back half way, and once we were through, you couldnt tell that it was ever opened.
EDIT: Removed bad image link.
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IDChris
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Southern Idaho Wasteland
Gender: Male
| | Re: Boarded up windows?
<Reply # 13 on 5/22/2009 6:51 PM >
| | | | There's a person I know who worked with a structural mover for a few years and he had to secure houses and other buildings.
To frustrate those who do remove screws, he would use different drive screws. A #2 and #3 phillips, a square drive, and a pin torx in the same window, or they would run carriage bolts through the plywood to backers on the inside.
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jebking
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Newmarket, Ontario
Gender: Male
poop on a pumpernickel
| | Re: Boarded up windows?
<Reply # 14 on 5/23/2009 12:29 AM >
| | | | i have a universal screwdriver so that shouldn't be a problem... i just don't understand why the people didn't just use a nail gun. Anyway maybe i can come back at night, unscrew half of it, then come back the next day without the screw driver, then come back again that night and screw it back in?
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<Reply # 15 on 5/23/2009 1:18 AM >
| | | | if yo are really intent on unscrewing the boards just bring a screw gun or a portable drill.. That will take about 4 minutes if you know what you are doing compared to 1/2 an hour or more with a screwdriver. make sure you bring bits and use the right size
and to be extra sneaky don't unscrew the top row of screws. this way you can just lift the board and crawl in and gravity will assist you in keeping it on the down low
don't forget to close it back up when you are done.. the main reason we keep stuff sealed is so that vandals and graffers won't get in and get the location some unwanted attention
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jebking
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Newmarket, Ontario
Gender: Male
poop on a pumpernickel
| | Re: Boarded up windows?
<Reply # 16 on 5/23/2009 1:54 AM >
| | | | hmmmm a drill? this house has a few around it, the drill might make enough noise to make someone call the cops at night. I wouldn't have much of an explanation if i was found with a drill, a case of drill bits, unscrewing plywood from a window.
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coopersvictim
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Chicago, IL
Gender: Female
scuggs
| | | Re: Boarded up windows?
<Reply # 17 on 5/23/2009 2:55 AM >
| | | | Posted by TheVicariousVadder
We've taken out an entire window to get OUT of an abandonment before.
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Hah, that's awesome. I bet it was a bitch to take the whole thing out.
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jebking
location:
Newmarket, Ontario
Gender: Male
poop on a pumpernickel
| | Re: Boarded up windows?
<Reply # 18 on 5/23/2009 3:37 AM >
| | | | no.....moving a fridge through a closet sized door.... THAT is a bitch
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Cerealx59
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Minneapolis Minnesota
Gender: Male
There is always a Path.
| | Re: Boarded up windows?
<Reply # 19 on 5/23/2009 5:32 AM >
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Breaking the window which is surely behind that board would be considered vandalism. Which I don't think is something anyone here condones.
A screwdriver could very easily be considered a "burglars tool" and if caught could lead to some not so friendly jail time.
It sounds to me like there are too many charges being racked up already, and you haven't even done anything yet.
If it is beyond the standard "trespassing", I would call it too risky.
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