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robk700
    
location:
Los Angeles / D.C.
Gender: Male
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SoCal,
I'm going to do a my first spring hike to Big Horn Mine this Sunday the 22ed. 2 miles of underground tunnels. Fairly safe though. Some sections will be flooded with 4-8 inches of water. Anyone interested in coming along? The trail head is off the east side of the 2 near Wrightwood. About 1.25 hours from downtown LA. Thinking noon meet up at trail head. About 2 miles from parking lot.
Rob
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bryguy17
 
location:
san luis obispo/fullerton
Gender: Male
Welcome to SLOcal
| |  | Re: Big Horn Mine
<Reply # 1 on 3/17/2009 6:30 AM >
| | | | why do you say the tunnels are safe? just curious. usually 4-8in of water and unnatural tunnels tend not to mix well...
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jratter
location:
Huntington Beach
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 2 on 3/17/2009 9:51 AM >
| | | | I would say any tunnel or cave in that range should be suspect. With all the quakes we have, geologist compare the San Gabriels to a broken box of china.
I just found this site:
http://23b.org/gal...-Mine/aag.jpg.html
Look at the crazy reinforcement along the ceiling and the blocking holding things up. It sounds interesting though, and I have done dumber things.... PM me.
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Shockwave
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 3 on 3/17/2009 7:39 PM >
| | | | I think I might be able to do this. Synonyx, since you will be in town do you want to hit this up?
don't talk shit about total |
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robk700
location:
Los Angeles / D.C.
Gender: Male
| | Re: Big Horn Mine
<Reply # 4 on 3/17/2009 7:56 PM >
| | | | Posted by bryguy17
why do you say the tunnels are safe? just curious. usually 4-8in of water and unnatural tunnels tend not to mix well...
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Any mine is a dangerous place to explore. Compared to caves which have been around for tens of millions of years they are man made often with safety lacking as a priority. I have been to numerous mines over the years and am often amazed at what people choose to explore. I just mean compared to other mines I personally feel safer. This is mostly due to the lack of vertical shafts which can scare the crap out of me. Even just navigating around. If any collapse were to occur, which is a 10000-1 chance, while being visited, pretty much all the tunnels circle back to main arteries. Also, even with 2 miles of tunnels, after visiting maybe 10 times, my first was the only time I felt like I might get turned around. There are even maps online if you feel the need. Again, no mine is completely safe and you will always enter at your own risk.
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bryguy17
location:
san luis obispo/fullerton
Gender: Male
Welcome to SLOcal
| | | Re: Big Horn Mine
<Reply # 5 on 3/18/2009 5:25 AM >
| | | | well yeah. I realise that no mine is safe, that's why I asked.
I too explore mines, but I prefer the dry ones. water=erosion=weakened structure. water and being underground are generally things you don't want together.
but then again, if you feel safe, and know what you're doing, by all means. take some pictures too 
also, seeing the pictures linked by jratter, I've definitely seen worse. try a tunnel dug into loose tailings. sketchy shit right there...
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big dave
  
location:
SoCal
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 6 on 3/18/2009 7:24 AM >
| | | | Ok he posted to see if anyone wanted to come along, not for mining police to interrogate him.
An armed society, is a polite society. So lets get to it! |
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cr400
location:
Los Angeles, CA
Gender: Male
| | Re: Big Horn Mine
<Reply # 7 on 3/18/2009 4:26 PM >
| | | | Posted by big dave
Ok he posted to see if anyone wanted to come along, not for mining police to interrogate him.
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Ha! Ha! Mining police, maybe they can take over the search for Osama Bin Loser?
You can see a million miles tonite, but you can't get very far.
Honorary member of UER lifetime acheivement award winning, 2Xplorations and Guide Services, Texas. |
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robk700
location:
Los Angeles / D.C.
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 8 on 3/18/2009 6:18 PM >
| | | | Lol. Thanks Dave.
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robk700
location:
Los Angeles / D.C.
Gender: Male
| | Re: Big Horn Mine
<Reply # 9 on 3/18/2009 7:02 PM >
| | | | Damn! Sorry fellas. I just read an update of current trail conditions. To my very great surprise there is still ice along the path. An ice axe plus other safety equipment should be used. I'm greatly sorry for anyone who wanted to go but I can't do it if there is still ice. I did it once and nearly lost my life. Will not take others on that same foolish adventure. I promise this will happen but the trail needs to melt for a few more weeks. I will then personally go up there and do the hike before trying to set up another date. It's kinda funny that with all the concern over the mine it's the trail that stops me. Again, so very sorry to those that expressed interest. I'll be sure to update.
Update: If anyone wants to do the bridge to nowhere this weekend, instead, hit me up. Water levels on the trail are fine currently. It's a moderate 8 mile hike, though, round trip.
[last edit 3/18/2009 7:10 PM by robk700 - edited 1 times]
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SirJinx
location:
Los Angeles Area
Gender: Male
| | Re: Big Horn Mine
<Reply # 10 on 3/19/2009 2:58 AM >
| | | | Posted by robk700
Damn! Sorry fellas. I just read an update of current trail conditions. To my very great surprise there is still ice along the path. An ice axe plus other safety equipment should be used. I'm greatly sorry for anyone who wanted to go but I can't do it if there is still ice. I did it once and nearly lost my life. Will not take others on that same foolish adventure. I promise this will happen but the trail needs to melt for a few more weeks. I will then personally go up there and do the hike before trying to set up another date. It's kinda funny that with all the concern over the mine it's the trail that stops me. Again, so very sorry to those that expressed interest. I'll be sure to update.
Update: If anyone wants to do the bridge to nowhere this weekend, instead, hit me up. Water levels on the trail are fine currently. It's a moderate 8 mile hike, though, round trip.
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Bridge to Nowhere - be prepared to wake up at six and not return until 5 or 6. Just letting you know, it's a long ass fucking walk. Definitely cool to see of course, but if you go on a weekend you're going to run into a crapload of bungee jumpers on the bridge. Won't make for a good photo op. Just my opinion.
You can also try the Dawn Mine in Altadena but as of 2 weeks ago, it was flooded with about 2 feet of freezing water. Trail takes about 3 to 4 hours round trip if you do it leisurely. You can do it quicker if hustling. Make sure you have some kind of water boots or be prepared to freeze your feet up. Ever had your feet in frozen water? Your toesies cramp up pretty awful.
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SirJinx
location:
Los Angeles Area
Gender: Male
| | Re: Big Horn Mine
<Reply # 11 on 3/19/2009 2:59 AM >
| | | | Oh yeah almost forgot, there's a vertical shaft in the Dawn Mine, better watch your ass bigtime in there. It's on the right about 50 feet in. You might miss it if you're not checking the water very well and it will be a big fucking doozy if you do.
Ever fall into a pit of ice cold water? Your balls shrivel up to the size of chick peas.
[last edit 3/19/2009 3:01 AM by SirJinx - edited 1 times]
People are weird. |
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robk700
location:
Los Angeles / D.C.
Gender: Male
| | Re: Big Horn Mine
<Reply # 12 on 3/19/2009 3:41 AM >
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I've done the bridge at least 12 times since college. You're right about the photo ops potentialy being threatened by jumpers. It is not a 12 hr. hike, though. The most I took was 3 hrs. one way. It gets realy nasty at dark though if u don't plan right. Dawn mine is pretty small. The flooded pit and waterfall are pretty. The pit kinda gives me the shivers when i think about the girl that drowned in it decades ago. The trail itself is what makes that hike though. Too many ticks this month for me to do that one, though. After la's rainy season millard's canyon's cool dark and wet trail breeds them by the millions. This time last year I came back with 5. And I only sat down 4 times. Tons of poison oak too. Suppose u could get there by doing the mule trail twice but I prefer the full circle.
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robk700
location:
Los Angeles / D.C.
Gender: Male
| | Re: Big Horn Mine
<Reply # 13 on 4/27/2009 11:13 PM >
| | | | Going tomorrow for sure. Ice has melted and path is clear. I have a non UER friend I owe the trip to so going regardless.
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