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arigato
 
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Gender: Male
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|  | | | Nice job, controleman - now the Dow's going to be shut up tighter than a nun's cunt again, you blabbermouth.
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metawaffle
     
King of Puns
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Brisbane!
Gender: Male
Purveyor of Fine Lampshades
| |  | Re: article in the mirror
<Reply # 1 on 1/31/2009 2:20 PM >
| | | | What's all this about, then? (for those of us who aren't controleman)
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arigato
location:
montréal
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 2 on 1/31/2009 2:24 PM >
| | | | http://www.montrea...12909/sports4.html
All this "don't leave anything but footprints, don't take anything but photos" stuff is swell, but how about this one - "don't take the media on tours".
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controleman
  
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Montreal
Gender: Male
| | | Re: article in the mirror
<Reply # 3 on 1/31/2009 2:25 PM >
| | | | Posted by arigato
now the Dow's going to be shut up tighter than a nun's cunt again, you blabbermouth.
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No prob! 
edit: Dow's like the ''charrue des explorateurs'', it's impossible to lock it tightly. Maybe you're just one more urban tourist in this city.
[last edit 1/31/2009 2:42 PM by controleman - edited 1 times]
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Katetron
location:
Middlesex New Jersey
Gender: Female
melting your brains
| |  | | Re: article in the mirror
<Reply # 4 on 1/31/2009 2:39 PM >
| | | | all i know is that i saw beer pong in the same page as that so im pretty disappointed
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maZe
location:
Montreal/Moncton/Ottawa
Gender: Female
"All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed" - Sean O'Casey
| |  | | Re: article in the mirror
<Reply # 5 on 1/31/2009 4:04 PM >
| | | | Posted by arigato
Nice job, controleman - now the Dow's going to be shut up tighter than a nun's cunt again, you blabbermouth.
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Ho Hi. I haven't read anything from you in forever and then - BANG! you slam Controle-Man. Hmm...
Last I did, I found a complex of 60 soviet abandoned buildings in Germany and two days before, I was playing with human bones with Controle_man 30 meters under Paris.
What have YOU explored lately? The Dow?
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Mickael
Moderator
location:
Canada
Gender: Male
| | Re: article in the mirror
<Reply # 6 on 1/31/2009 4:22 PM >
| | | | Posted by maZe
Last I did, I found a complex of 60 soviet abandoned buildings in Germany and two days before, I was playing with human bones with Controle_man 30 meters under Paris.
What have YOU explored lately? The Dow?
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Some people like media exposure, some people don't.
I'm not sure that attacking him on his exploration record is a good thing to do.
I haven't explored "60 soviet abandoned buildings in Germany" or "played with human bones 30 meters under Paris" lately, mostly due to the fact that I am a full time university student and, being a student, I don't have the money for a trip to Europe.
Does that make me a bad explorer ?
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BobbyWhiskey
location:
Montreal/Sherbrooke
Gender: Male
| | | Re: article in the mirror
<Reply # 7 on 1/31/2009 4:32 PM >
| | | | Posted by arigato
Nice job, controleman - now the Dow's going to be shut up tighter than a nun's cunt again, you blabbermouth.
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There is a 3meter by 10 meter hole in the wall, you call that closed? There will always be entrance to the dow, even after some idiots throwed bricks from the roof.
Anyway, its soon gonna be transformed into condo...
I think its a good idea to show other people what urban exploring is, so we are not mistaken with vandals or graffiti artists.
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micro
Gender: Male
Slowly I turned
| | Re: article in the mirror
<Reply # 8 on 1/31/2009 5:01 PM >
| | | | Posted by Mickael
Some people like media exposure, some people don't.
I'm not sure that attacking him on his exploration record is a good thing to do.
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Maybe, but I've found that the people who complain the loudest about media exposure are often the ones who explore the least.
As for Dow, it's no big secret that the place gets frequented by all types of people. An article in The Mirror will change nothing at all.
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maZe
location:
Montreal/Moncton/Ottawa
Gender: Female
"All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed" - Sean O'Casey
| | | | Re: article in the mirror
<Reply # 10 on 1/31/2009 6:39 PM >
| | | | The thing that gets me is that people that are keen usually at throwing a rock at explorers that speak to the medias are the ones that are the biggest (or at least seems like) armchair explorers.
Less talking, more walking is all I'm saying.
Mechfreak57 in the UER chat : "George W. Bush is not perfect. He fucked up the borders and Irak is a shit storm but he's the best we've got. "
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Charlie_Dunver
location:
Montreal
Gender: Male
| | | Re: article in the mirror
<Reply # 11 on 1/31/2009 6:45 PM >
| | | | Very highly unlikely anything will change. There are community groups that distribute petitions, do interviews in the media, and hold street concerts in order to get a little necessary change on their street and it is next to impossible to get the time of day with someone at City Hall.
Chances are more than excellent that anyone involved with Dow is even reading Mirror are very slim. They don't give a shit. When the time comes to make some money they will act. In the meantime, they don't give a shit.
Sometimes hard to believe that these locations are so insignificant to the people that own them, isn't it?
CD
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SPEK Photo
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Where you were not.
"Chere cachère!"
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<Reply # 12 on 1/31/2009 8:03 PM >
| | | | I use free newspaper like Voir and Mirror mainly as floor mats in my car.
Pour fins d'archives.
WWW.EXPLORATIONURBAINE.CA |
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Ratsters
location:
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 13 on 1/31/2009 9:09 PM >
| | | | God it's like there is only one place to explore in this big city, have you seen my latest post on “Déchéance a Westmount”, I'm not talking about some boondocks place here.... even the Queen of Westmount has “Exploration Urbaine” to be made...
so as Maze said... Out you go and explore...
Cheers
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controleman
location:
Montreal
Gender: Male
| | | Re: article in the mirror
<Reply # 14 on 2/1/2009 12:06 AM >
| | | | Alright, on va mettre un truc au clair. Entre le fait de parler de Dow ou d'avoir plein de sites qui donnent l'adresse et des images qui d'une quelconque façon dirige vers un point d'entrer, lequel est le pire? Quand ya des vidéos sur youtube, flickr, des toooonnes d'articles, des documentaires, et j'en oubli surment, qui présentent déjà l'exploration urbaine, pourquoi quelqu'un viendrait chialer? Oh, je parle de Dow! Wait, non c'est surment pas ça le problème, tout le monde connait Dow anyway. C'est surment parce que le fait d'avoir un article va insiter les jeunes à venir dans nos lieux qu'on garde secret par simple avidité. Ha non, c'est vrai, j'y ai pas pensée avant, mais les jeunes vandales sont exactement le public cible de La Presse, The Gazette, Concordia, McGill et Mirror, où avais-je la tête tout ce temps là. Tu m'a éclairé Aristocartototo! Les jeunes vont aller faire une recherche sur google après et sa va être de ma faute si ils tombent sur les sites publics. Fuck off.
Ta lu l'article, appart les erreurs que ya dedans tu trouve que sa porte atteinte à la réputation des explorateurs? Ok, sa parle d'une fille morte, whatever, je sais même pas où ils sont allé cherché ça. Autrement? Ta déjà penser que sa pouvait peut-être aussi devenir positif comme répercutions, ou tu vois juste ton ptit doweener?.
Ha pis au fait, sa fait 5 ans que je vais à Dow, j'ai dut y aller environs 150 fois et j'ai jamais eu de problème pour entrer à l'intérieur. J'ai déjà aider la police a pogner du monde pis j'leur ai montrer par où entrer. Rien à battre, on peut encore entrer maintenant. Si tu pense que c'est un article du genre qui va changer de quoi, tu te mets le doigt dans l'oeil jusqu'au plus profond de ton anus. Pauvre explorateur urbain, que va tu faire si tu dois t'étirer un peu pour entrer à Dow, la fin du monde, faudrait pas que je déchire mon vernis à ongles pour passer!
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baleze
location:
Montreal
Gender: Male
I don't really hate children. I just can't finish a whole one.
| | Re: article in the mirror
<Reply # 15 on 2/1/2009 12:12 AM >
| | | | For anyone who's only vaguely aware of how the Montreal UE community works, I might understand how this article looks like some pompous ego trip. But anyone who's met controleman only once will agree he's the most modest guy out there. If for some reason, the journalist thought it'd be a good idea to put controleman's big hairy face on 2 out of 4 pictures, it sure wasn't his idea. Remember that a journalist that wants to write an article about UE will always end up sending tons of emails. In fact, I'm quite happy that controleman stood up for this and decided to bring that Mirror guy at the Dow instead of some prick emptying fire extinguishers at an active warehouse of something.
http://www.flickr....otos/30228457@N05/
http://baleze.deviantart.com/
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uem-Tux
Iron Wok Jan
location:
Montreal
Gender: Male
UE Geek
| |  | | Re: article in the mirror
<Reply # 16 on 2/1/2009 5:12 AM >
| | | | I find it quite hilarious how worked up people get about media attention. I imagine that most of us learned about UE through some form of media. Whether it was a zine, website, or newspaper. Putting freely accessible information about urban exploration into the infosphere is what most of us, um, do. So decrying it just because it involves a newspaper is pretty silly.
I find the paranoid keep-everything-secret mentality that has developed in our community over the last few years disappointing. I mean, I agree that discretion is important with things like entrances, but I think a lot of people really blow media attention out of proportion.
Urban Exploration Montreal
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XBEN
location:
Nouveau-Québec
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 17 on 2/1/2009 5:51 AM >
| | | | This is a chance that this article was realized with the contribution of controleman ... Just imagine the result if Erick Leijon would have done the interview with a person improvised urban explorer!
''Toutes les grandes personnes ont d'abord été des enfants.''
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Intrinsic
location:
Collingwood
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 18 on 2/1/2009 5:56 AM >
| | | | I think that the article sheds a light on the hobby and the positive aspects of it. From the public's point of view, it says, "We mean no harm". From a property owner's point of view, it says, "Lock it up tight. We're a liability to your insurance."
I can't say it was a negative article or that we should be quick to criticize ControlMan. If it wasn't him, it would have been some other UE.
Edit: je ne parle pas de français.
[last edit 2/1/2009 6:00 AM by Intrinsic - edited 1 times]
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cheeeze
location:
127.0.0.1
Gender: Male
| | Re: article in the mirror
<Reply # 19 on 2/1/2009 6:18 AM >
| | | | serieux ca fait pitie cette conversation...
peut-etre c'est moi qui 'fit' pas dans le moule de UER ou je sais pas.
On s'en fou carrement que t'as eu la chance de voir un complexe de 60 batiments en Allemagne ou que tu as seulement visite le Quebec et ses environs... Dans le sense que tant mieux pour toi si tu peux voyager ou non, on a chacun nos occupations et nos motivations et restrictions..
je trouve l'atmosphere un peu tendu ici...
Comme s'il y avait un esprit de course ici a reussir a demasquer les vrai explorateurs urbain, et les meilleurs en plus!!
ALLO?????????????????????????? Il sagit bien de batiments abandonnés la???
Ma motivation premiere est la photo et le fait de voyager et se balader, pour certain c'est autre chose. Mais la pourquoi en faire un plat ?????
Tant qu'a moi ici la seule regle en vigueur qui peut differencier un vrai explorateur d'un faux, c'est le 'full member' status. Pour le reste j'ai de la difficulte a suivre certains..
Il sagit seulement d'avoir gagne une confiance, prouver qu'on est pas la pour trasher et demontrer une certaine responsabilite en partageant et en visitant ces lieux. Pour le reste on s'en fou!
Controleman a le droit aussi de faire publir cet article si ca lui plait. Je peux juste comprendre que ca derange certains car il y a eu recemment beaucoup de suppose explorateurs qui ont fait de la 'marde!' Et le fait de parler de l'exploration et en plus de donner l'exemple d'un lieu ne peut que motiver ces suppose explorateurs... Mais bon.. qu'est-ce qu'on peut y faire.. Ils vont se faire prendre.. Et nous allons continuer la meme route.
Bonne exploration
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