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Draining and Winter
< on 9/7/2007 7:22 PM >
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I've been meaning to ask about this. having read the Approach..., and not seeing mention of it, I was hoping I could get some feed back on Draining in the winter - specifically, if anyone has done it, in the Western NY area.

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Re: Draining and Winter
<Reply # 1 on 9/7/2007 7:38 PM >
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I was going to ask the same thing.

If everything is frozen, I assume it would be less dry but possibly more slippery due to ice. Might me a little warmer inside the drain compared to the outdoors.

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Re: Draining and Winter
<Reply # 2 on 9/7/2007 8:18 PM >
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Most drains still receive a steady flow of water over the course of the winter so it's uncommon for them to freeze over.

The only thing that really changes is that feel a bit warmer inside relative to the outside air temperature. The air will also be free of the "fog" you sometimes get during the warmer months.

Occasionally you'll find that lids are frozen in place in which case you might need a mallet in order to loosen it.

Oh yeah, and obviously getting soaked inside a drain and later walking around outside in subzero temperatures can make for some less than comfortable moments.

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Re: Draining and Winter
<Reply # 3 on 9/7/2007 8:35 PM >
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Just to add to what Micro said, you can often find some pretty sweet ice formations where barely-melted water and sub-freezing air both enter the drain at the same point. It makes winter draining far more worthwhile, though unfortunately it's still pretty difficult to fight through the reluctance that sub-zero temperatures typically induce into the body and mind of even the hardcore drainer.

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Re: Draining and Winter
<Reply # 4 on 9/7/2007 10:38 PM >
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the other reason I didnt see mentioned for some drains not freezing over is that at a certain depth below ground, the temperature is regulated by the depth and doesnt drop below freezing... You may find that an outfall is frozen looking, but that as you venture further into the drain the drain itself is mostly running and somewhat warmer than where you entered.

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Re: Draining and Winter
<Reply # 5 on 9/8/2007 5:08 AM >
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When I was young I used to explore a ravine near my home and in the winter the most amazingly elaborate domes would form over the drain entrances. It was like a huge igloo.

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Re: Draining and Winter
<Reply # 6 on 9/8/2007 5:16 AM >
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Even in the coldest MO weather, our drains haven't frozen. When I drained in winter, it wasn't the draining that sucked so much as the walk home, because once I was on the streets, my wet shoes froze.

It seemed like a good idea at the time...
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Re: Draining and Winter
<Reply # 7 on 9/8/2007 5:29 AM >
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Re: Draining and Winter
<Reply # 8 on 9/8/2007 1:59 PM >
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since it's not frozen underground, has anyone found that there is more water flowing in the winter then?

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Re: Draining and Winter
<Reply # 9 on 9/9/2007 4:00 PM >
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One particular drain I know of has more water in the winter than any other month.

In the winter, the flood gate is open.

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Re: Draining and Winter
<Reply # 10 on 9/9/2007 5:11 PM >
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Posted by Urbex Tom
One particular drain I know of has more water in the winter than any other month.

In the winter, the flood gate is open.


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Re: Draining and Winter
<Reply # 11 on 1/15/2008 3:40 AM >
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Posted by Whittiker Owens
since it's not frozen underground, has anyone found that there is more water flowing in the winter then?


One thing is for sure, if there is snow or ice melting on the ground, things get wet.

Sometimes its a pain to navigate, but online data about the nearest river height/flow can give you a pretty good idea when the drains in your area will be at their wettest and driest.

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Re: Draining and Winter
<Reply # 12 on 1/15/2008 7:50 PM >
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One thing about winter is that there is a little less danger from flash-flooding, since a temporary passing storm generally is not a threat compared to hot days. And on hot days, the flow is generally pretty steady, even if it is higher than usual.

I just went draining the other day (it's winter, now). It's actually quite warm inside, and deep inside the drain/cave/thing, non-flowing water is barely colder than it would be in the summer time. It's quite the nice break from the winter cold, here in Minnesota. Of course, wear water-proof boots (or waders, if appropriate). I would rather explore underground than above-ground abandonments in the winter time. Up there, it's their time. Down here, it's our time!

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Re: Draining and Winter
<Reply # 13 on 1/23/2008 5:25 AM >
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We've slithered into the Fountain drain because if the ice was any closer to the top at the outfall a 12 pack wouldn't fit while a sixer would.

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Re: Draining and Winter
<Reply # 14 on 1/23/2008 5:35 AM >
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only water ive ever seen in a drain frozen even in 0 degrees F is right near loose man hole covers its ussually quite warm if you can park close. not that im an uber drainer or anything just my experiences

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