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robinson \|	So what type of trouble would you get into if caught? < on 1/3/2007 7:02 PM >

	Just curious... I'd really like to check out the DOW, as everyone on here seemingly has... lol Although now it's under someone's control... i'm just curious what type of problems i could encounter in terms of getting caught... is it just a small fine if you are over 18? can you goto jail... do most people just tell you to f-off and get off the property? I'm assuming it depends on how you talk to this person and how you are dressed? I'm mainly curious because i'd like to photograph this stuff and i'm like the furthest from a problem that these people could encounter... lol

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Re: So what type of trouble would you get into if caught?
<Reply # 1 on 1/3/2007 7:07 PM >

Posted by robinson
Just curious...

I'd really like to check out the DOW, as everyone on here seemingly has... lol
Although now it's under someone's control... i'm just curious what type of problems i could encounter in terms of getting caught...

is it just a small fine if you are over 18? can you goto jail...
do most people just tell you to f-off and get off the property?

I'm assuming it depends on how you talk to this person and how you are dressed?

I'm mainly curious because i'd like to photograph this stuff and i'm like the furthest from a problem that these people could encounter... lol

I think it all depends how you are with the officer and what was the situation involved you were in. Dow is harder to go inside theses days. They added plastic to almost every windows. Probably to remove asbestos?

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robinson \|	Re: So what type of trouble would you get into if caught? <Reply # 2 on 1/3/2007 7:47 PM >

	true true... I ask because i'm considering checking out the dow, but i'm thinking of taking a different approach in that, i'd ask leloft (which i assume owns the building) if i can enter at my own risk and "document" the area type thing... Dunno what the chances are that they will agree, but i figure it's a first step...

nostra-YOUPPI! Umpire location: Shahre:'on Kaybec Bonsoir et cest partie \|	Re: So what type of trouble would you get into if caught? <Reply # 3 on 1/3/2007 7:52 PM >

	speaking of the dow accessability i was parked on de linspecteur the other day and it looks like the ETS is using the old area around le salon le chevalier as office space there were people in there in the mid to late evening and it was lit up Montreal Expos 1969-2004 Forever Proud Lets Keep The Dream Alive

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Re: So what type of trouble would you get into if caught?
<Reply # 4 on 1/3/2007 8:11 PM >

Posted by nostra-YOUPPI!
speaking of the dow accessability i was parked on de linspecteur the other day and it looks like the ETS is using the old area around le salon le chevalier as office space there were people in there in the mid to late evening and it was lit up

I don't know what those guys would do if they catch us inside?

I'd so much be like ''what the .....''!

ArmyMan Gender: Male When there no more room in hell , deads will walk the earth ! \|	Re: So what type of trouble would you get into if caught? <Reply # 5 on 1/3/2007 10:52 PM >

	I already do le LEgal Aproach to get inside .... Ask the Secratary in the ETS front desk ... She tell me to go see A preson that I dont remember is title ...(what I do) Ask here to get inside to take picture .... The answer I got :You did the good thing to TRY to get inside BUT , Did you think I'm dress to get inside a abandoned building to make you a tour And insurance dont want this... Just leave my office , I got work to do ! Francais : Jai deja essayer l'approche l'égale pour entré a l'intérieur . Jai été a l'ETS , demander a la secrétaire , elle ma répondu d'aller voir une peronne dont je ne me rapelle plus le titre .... ( ce que jai fait ) Je lui ai demander poliment s'il etais possible d'aller a l'intérieur pour prendre des photos . La réponce fu : vous avez effectuer la bonne démarche pour essayewr d'entré , mais , Penser vous que je suis habiller pour aller vous faire faire un visite guider , et les assurance ne veule rien savoir de ca . Sorter de mon bureau , jai du travail a faire !!! When there's no more room in hell , the dead will walk the earth !

TaP location: Montreal, QC Gender: Male \|	Re: So what type of trouble would you get into if caught? <Reply # 6 on 1/4/2007 3:09 AM >

	i would be more scared to catch a nasty disease related to asbestos than get caught. dont be silly protect yourself. (à ne pas prendre hors contexte.)

robinson \|	Re: So what type of trouble would you get into if caught? <Reply # 7 on 1/4/2007 6:46 AM >

	cool no problemo... I find it a bit harder than it was back in the day to just go explore... at 29 if i get caught who knows wtf they'll do... either treat me like an adult and tell me to leave, or think i'm planning something... who knows....

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Re: So what type of trouble would you get into if caught?
<Reply # 8 on 1/4/2007 5:23 PM >

Posted by robinson
cool no problemo...

I find it a bit harder than it was back in the day to just go explore... at 29 if i get caught who knows wtf they'll do... either treat me like an adult and tell me to leave, or think i'm planning something... who knows....

You gotta be slick at getting in.. you gotta be fast, and you gotta remember.. fuck the police, and go in anyways and make sure you dont get caught. There's a million places to hide, and a billion places to run to if you got spotted around there. You can walk around the courtyard these days and nobody minds because there's even cars parked there, and once you get inside you shouldn't have anything to worry about.

cjb location: Sept-îles/Saint-John's/Corner Brooks/Montréal/Sydney Gender: Male \| \|	Re: So what type of trouble would you get into if caught? <Reply # 9 on 1/5/2007 12:05 AM >

	Just be careful not to get accused of industrial spying.... ehehe http://www.magazin...dossiers/index.htm

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Re: So what type of trouble would you get into if caught?
<Reply # 10 on 1/5/2007 2:06 PM >

You could be 19, 29, or 59. If you're over 18, the legal treatment is the same. Age makes no difference.
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Re: So what type of trouble would you get into if caught?
<Reply # 11 on 1/5/2007 2:14 PM >

Posted by mewthree

fuck the police, and go in anyways and make sure you dont get caught. There's a million places to hide, and a billion places to run to if you got spotted around there. You can walk around the courtyard these days and nobody minds because there's even cars parked there, and once you get inside you shouldn't have anything to worry about.

That sounds about right to me. The police are not going to go in to hunt you down. If they were called for whatever reason, they would wait for you outside or something, especially DOW. Hey, in october we were up on the roof waiting for the sun to set (me, nel58, Xame and TaP). Plenty of people saw us (mainly me I suspect, I had pink hair and a bright yellow shirt, heh) and no one really gave a damn and we were there for nearly 2 hours. Once you're in the only thing that I would fear are workers, if there are any...

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Re: So what type of trouble would you get into if caught?
<Reply # 12 on 1/5/2007 2:23 PM >

Posted by Professor Chaos

That sounds about right to me. The police are not going to go in to hunt you down. If they were called for whatever reason, they would wait for you outside or something, especially DOW. Hey, in october we were up on the roof waiting for the sun to set (me, nel58, Xame and TaP). Plenty of people saw us (mainly me I suspect, I had pink hair and a bright yellow shirt, heh) and no one really gave a damn and we were there for nearly 2 hours. Once you're in the only thing that I would fear are workers, if there are any...

not a very proactive and preventive attitude I think but whatever. I'll send you oranges in jail...

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Re: So what type of trouble would you get into if caught?
<Reply # 13 on 1/5/2007 7:33 PM >

Posted by maZe

not a very proactive and preventive attitude I think but whatever. I'll send you oranges in jail...

??? The police will not chase you in a huge abandoned complex, such as DOW. I'm certainly not saying that it's a good idea to go on a rooftop like we did in a flamboyant manner, I was only up for 3 minutes (the time to go up the ladder), we were all laying down the rest of the time. People saw us as we were going up, and well I was pretty damn hard to miss. If the cops were to show up, which they didn't, they would not come in and chase us down.

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Re: So what type of trouble would you get into if caught?
<Reply # 14 on 1/5/2007 7:40 PM >

Posted by Professor Chaos

If the cops were to show up, which they didn't, they would not come in and chase us down.

up, we were on the roof

SPEK Photo location: Where you were not. "Chere cachère!" \| \|	Re: So what type of trouble would you get into if caught? <Reply # 15 on 1/6/2007 3:40 AM >

	Every time I went out of Dow it was around 3:00pm and the police were on shift change looking at their car, trunk and complaining about they don't want to drive again tonight. I was doing about the same thing 20' further but my shift was done. The never bothered about the guy with a camera coming out from the abandoned lot. [last edit 1/6/2007 5:43 AM by SPEK Photo - edited 1 times] Pour fins d'archives. WWW.EXPLORATIONURBAINE.CA

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Re: So what type of trouble would you get into if caught?
<Reply # 16 on 1/6/2007 8:41 PM >

Posted by mewthree

You gotta be slick at getting in.. you gotta be fast, and you gotta remember.. fuck the police, and go in anyways and make sure you dont get caught. There's a million places to hide, and a billion places to run to if you got spotted around there. You can walk around the courtyard these days and nobody minds because there's even cars parked there, and once you get inside you shouldn't have anything to worry about.

very true, act first, think later. The less you think about it the quicker you get in. I went in July with a couple of friends and the entrance was pretty difficult but we were in in less than 3 minutes, (about two of those minutes belonged to me). We all knew what we were getting into cause I scouted the place the day before. We also made the point of going when the construction workers were on vacation. Once you find an entrance and a good time to go you shouldn't worry, just do it. And once you're in you can fucking bet on it that a cop won't be going in there to chase you around. If anything they'll wait for you at the entrance and you can out wait them. We were in there for three and a half hours in there and didn't encounter any problems.

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Lamotterock location: Laval Quebec Gender: Male \|	Re: So what type of trouble would you get into if caught? <Reply # 17 on 1/10/2007 8:18 PM >

	I remember when i was 12-13 i used to go play around and inside the DoW and i never saw any cops or "working" Man! I did not show up at Dow since but well good luck. ( Sry for my english ) Hiphop's gay

NoWay location: MHM Gender: Male \|	Re: So what type of trouble would you get into if caught? <Reply # 18 on 1/17/2007 9:44 PM >

	Hi ! I'm currently studying at the ÉTS for 4 years and I live in the Résidences on Ottawa st. In fact, I have information that will maybe interest many of you. I went twice in the DOW building (spring 2006). We tried to go back another time, last summer, to watch the "Feux d'Artifices Loto-Québec" from the roof. We didn't know how to get in the building, and by the time we figured it out, someone saw us and called the cops. So here it is. The cops arrived as we were climbing. 30 seconds later, we were in, but we missed time. So they came to us. They asked what we were doing and since we were calm and honest and we didnt runaway, they been very cool with us. They told us that it was a criminal act, we could get fined, etc. They also asked us to leave our "climbing structure" we built in place, because they had to go in for a round, since people were throwing beer bottles from the roof the week before (idiots). After a 5 minutes talk, they asked us to leave and they didn't say anything, even if we had beer in our packsacks ! That was my little story to answer the question. Here's additionnal information I heard about the DOW : ÉTS' security guards are asked to go in when there's people inside making trouble. I don't know why, but I saw firefighters going in twice also (it was not for a fire ) I think the firefighters are the ones called to go in instead of the police when a situation requires an intervention. You may have noticed offices on one side of the courtyard. They belongs to http://centech.etsmtl.ca. That's why the garage door is sometimes open and cars are parked inside the courtyard. The Centech is sometimes doing presentations open to the public. And they ask people to enter by the garage door of the courtyard. I can try to let you know the next time they are making presentations, if you know what I mean

Jesus Died For Somebody's Sins location: Province of Montreal Gender: Female \|	Re: So what type of trouble would you get into if caught? <Reply # 19 on 1/17/2007 9:53 PM >

	so you mean the cops actually came after you into the Dow? The KKK took my Expos away

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