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micro
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| | Location Condition < on 4/3/2006 3:33 PM >
| | | Since vandalism seems to be such a big issue for a lot of people around here, I was thinking it might be a good idea to add a "level of vandalism" or "condition" field for entries in the DB. Not only would it be helpful for people who prefer visiting more pristine locations, but it'd also help keep track of what damage a location's been accruing since initially getting added. Thoughts?
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ryan
This member has been banned. See the banlist for more information. location: Providence RI Gender: Male
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| | | | Re: Location Condition <Reply # 1 on 4/3/2006 3:37 PM >
| | | i think thats a great idea it would be very helpful.. haha it would also be very helpful if i had access to the whole db but eh what are you gonna do
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nobody
location: VANCOUVER B.C. Gender: Male
5:55 is a state of mind
| | Re: Location Condition <Reply # 2 on 4/3/2006 3:42 PM >
| | | Not a bad idea. N.
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manitou
location: Mississauga/Toronto/Waterloo Gender: Male
I was born with an inherent knowledge of every abandonment in the world!
| | Re: Location Condition <Reply # 3 on 4/3/2006 3:45 PM >
| | | I like the idea of tracking levels of decay and vandalism. In that respect I think this is a good idea.
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micro
Gender: Male
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| | Re: Location Condition <Reply # 4 on 4/3/2006 3:52 PM >
| | | Just thought I should add, that the intent behind this this isn't to encourage people to start making the connection between locations getting added and an increase in vandalism. Though I'm sure that may be the case now and again, I'm looking at this more from an archival point of view, where making note of an item's condition is standard procedure.
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Stewie
location: Hamilton, Ontario Gender: Male
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| | | Re: Location Condition <Reply # 5 on 4/3/2006 4:09 PM >
| | | I like the specific idea, but I'm not fond of the "lets blame the location database for increased vandal activity in locations" thing.
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manitou
location: Mississauga/Toronto/Waterloo Gender: Male
I was born with an inherent knowledge of every abandonment in the world!
| | Re: Location Condition <Reply # 6 on 4/3/2006 4:24 PM >
| | | Posted by micro Just thought I should add, that the intent behind this this isn't to encourage people to start making the connection between locations getting added and an increase in vandalism.
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While I have a tendency to point out that sites are negatively effected by being included the the DB I was not implying that with my post. I would be interested in knowing just how heavily tagged a site is prior to visiting it since, for me, extensive graffiti ruins a site.
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micro
Gender: Male
Slowly I turned
| | Re: Location Condition <Reply # 7 on 4/3/2006 4:30 PM >
| | | Yeah, my comment wasn't directed at you. I just thought it was something I should add in case anyone thought it was one of the reasons behind this.
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atomx
location: Brighton, ON Gender: Male
| | | Re: Location Condition <Reply # 8 on 4/3/2006 4:38 PM >
| | | Good idea. Maybe: Level of Decay: 1 - Brand spanking new; 2 - Weather damage (broken windows); 3 - Sections unstable; 4 - About to fall over; 5 - Collapsed. - and - Level of Vandalism: 1 - Untouched; 2 - Some graffiti, Minor vandalism; 3 - Fair amount of Spray, Tolerable damage; 4 - Covered in Paint, Not a thing left unturned.
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micro
Gender: Male
Slowly I turned
| | Re: Location Condition <Reply # 9 on 4/3/2006 4:42 PM >
| | | Yeah, I think something like that would be good.
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yokes
location: Toronto Gender: Male
I aim to misbehave
| | | | Re: Location Condition <Reply # 10 on 4/3/2006 4:43 PM >
| | | Good idea, and good scale.
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Agent Skelly
Web Sheriff location: Oregon Territory Gender: Male
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| | | | | Re: Location Condition <Reply # 11 on 4/3/2006 6:36 PM >
| | | Lets take this a step further and make a log of the decay of the place. something like May 1 - Newly Abandonded April 5 - Windows have been smashed July 12 - West side has been set on fire and so forth
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micro
Gender: Male
Slowly I turned
| | Re: Location Condition <Reply # 12 on 4/3/2006 6:41 PM >
| | | Let's not go overboard.
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yokes
location: Toronto Gender: Male
I aim to misbehave
| | | | Re: Location Condition <Reply # 13 on 4/3/2006 6:50 PM >
| | | Specifics, if people want, can always be left in the form of a new thread on the site listing.
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Crossfire
location: Kay-Dub Gender: Male
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| | | | | Re: Location Condition <Reply # 14 on 4/4/2006 6:30 PM >
| | | Personally I like Skelly's idea... C.
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nobody
location: VANCOUVER B.C. Gender: Male
5:55 is a state of mind
| | Re: Location Condition <Reply # 15 on 4/4/2006 6:36 PM >
| | | Posted by Crossfire Personally I like Skelly's idea... C.
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Totally. N.
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true_infinity
location: Rockford, IL. Gender: Male
Jerk of the Year
| | | | | Re: Location Condition <Reply # 16 on 4/4/2006 7:52 PM >
| | | Posted by Crossfire Personally I like Skelly's idea... C.
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Ditto. The other scale is fairly subjective, the timeline style depicts progression and could give details about what was graf'd/vandalized/b&e'd.
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atomx
location: Brighton, ON Gender: Male
| | | Re: Location Condition <Reply # 17 on 4/4/2006 7:59 PM >
| | | The description should be short. Nothing to much in detail. Maybe max 100 char? I think the timeline progrssion would work well.
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micro
Gender: Male
Slowly I turned
| | Re: Location Condition <Reply # 18 on 4/4/2006 8:03 PM >
| | | I think Skelly's suggestion would work fine for smaller locations but take something the size of Bethlehem Steel and it could start to get stupid. Besides, the point of it wouldn't be to keep track of what happened when and where, because I think that's just asking for problems. The idea is to give people a general idea of what to expect when considering locations to visit. I'm not interested in having people use this feature to point fingers and lay blame.
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true_infinity
location: Rockford, IL. Gender: Male
Jerk of the Year
| | | | | Re: Location Condition <Reply # 19 on 4/4/2006 8:31 PM >
| | | Posted by micro I think Skelly's suggestion would work fine for smaller locations but take something the size of Bethlehem Steel and it could start to get stupid. Besides, the point of it wouldn't be to keep track of what happened when and where, because I think that's just asking for problems. The idea is to give people a general idea of what to expect when considering locations to visit. I'm not interested in having people use this feature to point fingers and lay blame.
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absolutely it should not be used to point fingers and lay blame. but i do like the idea of knowing how fast the progression happened, not necessarily where (i could easily see how that could fast become ridiculous). to each, his own.
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Leo1: You cant just wander around Gary going into old buildings! Theres plenty of crackheads that will bust you in the mouth for that camera, then run a train your ladyfriends. Me: I like Gary, I think its nice, aside from the lack of eats on a Sunday afternoon. Leo2: Yeah, its really nice...until we find three dead strangers in an...abandoned...thing. |
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