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PAWolf Not from Pennsylvania location: KCMO Gender: Male We haven't located us yet. \| \| \| \|	If the respirator fits... < on 12/15/2004 1:28 AM >

	I just bought a new respirator today, n AO Safety Quicklatch Pro. I wanted to replace the 3M 6300 respirator I've got because I thought it didn't fit very well. Unfortunately I discovered that I have the exact same problem with the AO safety respirator as with the 3M only a little worse. On both sides of the bridge of my nose when I exhale I can feel a little of my breath hitting my eyes (with the 3M I only get air hitting my eyes on a positive pressure test). If I gently apply just the slightest pinching pressure to the place where the the air gets in it totally fixes the problem every time and I will get no leaks on a negative or positive pressure test. I really don't know what to do, since it isn't an issue with the size of the respirator just the shape of my face and my long skinny nose either pushing the mask to far up or to far out. I took one of the aluminum nose clips off of paper dustmask I had and put it over the place that's leaking and that worked great. Problem is I don't want to use an adhesive that will damage the latax but still be flexible so I've tried using silicone but it just wont stick and peels right off. So much for that idea. I'm thinking of just taking the AO safety one back since it's heavier and not as comfortable as the 3M and cost twice as much. The latex seems a little harder and that add the leaking problem too. Does anyone have any thoughts on what I should do or try? The new AO safety The 3M -pawolf Make Beer, Not War.

MatC Nobler Donor location: ENY Gender: Male Accepted everywhere \| \|	Re: If the respirator fits... <Reply # 1 on 12/15/2004 3:53 AM >

	My respirator looks almost exactly like the AO safety picture you posted except that it has an extra strap in the back to hold it against your head better (and maybe that one has it too, but isn't visible). Can you add an extra securing strap of your own to help it hold better? Just use some rubberized cord, or a cinch-strap of some kind, or even just a shoelace or something and see if it works. Or maybe just look for yet another respirator? They're not exactly common, I guess, but maybe a store could order one for you if you tell them that the other ones leak because of the way your face is shaped. Tell them you need to remodel a house with asbestos or something, if they ask. (But before you do that, tell them you're thinking of returning the model you have and see if they have suggestions for how to make it work. Only if they can't get it to work, then ask them about ordering a different one. They may have a "professional" model or something.) Beyond that, I got nothin'... -- Mat "We shall not cease from exploration / And the end of all our exploring / Will be to arrive where we started / And know the place for the first time." - T.S. Eliot, excerpt from "Little Gidding"

PAWolf Not from Pennsylvania location: KCMO Gender: Male We haven't located us yet. \| \| \| \|	Re: If the respirator fits... <Reply # 2 on 12/15/2004 5:03 AM >

	I'm taking the AO safety one back first thing tomarow morning. I gave up on trying to get it to fit right. I did find though that If i warmed up the 3M one with my hands before I put it on it would seal so now I'm bidding on a large 7000 series on ebay. It's supposed to have softer latex than the 6000series for a better fit. When I get it I'll post an update on how it works. -pawolf Make Beer, Not War.

ofberenonehand location: Minn-e-snow-ta "Where now is Boromir the Fair? He tarries and I grieve." \|	Re: If the respirator fits... <Reply # 3 on 12/15/2004 3:58 PM >

	You could try using some rubber conditioner. It would help soften it up. I think good strapping makes a world of difference. I also wouldn't worry about things on the rubber. It's not like you need it to last a hundred years. Good superglue should hold well. I modified an israeli civilian mask with a second layer of homemade shatter proof lenses. Superglue held well and I had it for about a year with no ill effects from the glue. (too late now for this advice I suppose) "That's What Government Is For; To Get In A Man's Way" -Mal

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Re: If the respirator fits...
<Reply # 4 on 12/15/2004 7:16 PM >

Posted by berenonehand
You could try using some rubber conditioner. It would help soften it up. I think good strapping makes a world of difference.

I also wouldn't worry about things on the rubber. It's not like you need it to last a hundred years. Good superglue should hold well. I modified an israeli civilian mask with a second layer of homemade shatter proof lenses. Superglue held well and I had it for about a year with no ill effects from the glue. (too late now for this advice I suppose)

Problem is that respirators aren't made out of rubber like gas masks. They're made out of latex which can act really strangely when exposed to certain chemicals. Anyway the 3M fits good enough for right now so it's no emergency.

-pawolf

Make Beer, Not War.

crucial_mobb location: Philadelphia \| \|	Re: If the respirator fits... <Reply # 5 on 12/15/2004 7:33 PM >

	damn, i just ordered that same AO Safety mask. you say that the 3M is better? what does everyone else wear? :: CRUCIAL BRUTAL MOBB ::

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Re: If the respirator fits...
<Reply # 6 on 12/15/2004 7:42 PM >

Posted by crucial_mobb
damn, i just ordered that same AO Safety mask. you say that the 3M is better? what does everyone else wear?

There's nothing wrong with the AO safety mask. The quicklatch deal is actually really nice. If I could get it to fit me right I'd be wearing it instead if nothing else because the filters are easier to find in town. Just about every hardware store stocks AO safety stuff exclusively.

-pawolf

Make Beer, Not War.

BigPoppaMikey This user has been banned. See the banlist page for more details. location: Milpitas, California Gender: Male Don't follow me unless you want to... \| \| \| \|	Re: If the respirator fits... <Reply # 7 on 12/15/2004 8:06 PM >

	All I have to say, PA, is you know better. Get the correct one and save yourself the ton of medical bills later in life... Wishing I was Jack Dalton just to have all the cool leftovers...

Duke Noble Donor location: Awww-shitby, Ontario Gender: Male Move it or lose it \|	Re: If the respirator fits... <Reply # 8 on 12/16/2004 8:51 PM >

	personally I have a moldex respirator and it's very comfortable. the whole thing's big and soft and fits very snugly all around. No problems with leaking or anything, even with a bit of a goatee (the mask actually goes farther back than my goat so it doesn't even touch it) You can't see it but there's a strap for the back of your neck that easily hooks on and off, and as you can see it's pretty easy to add prefilters (so you can be protected from both chemicals and pariculate at the same time) Contrary to popular belief, death isn't just for dead people. I know I was surprised too! It can happen to anybody! Horses, fiddler crabs, even a potato can die! - Tick

Servo \|	Re: If the respirator fits... <Reply # 9 on 12/16/2004 9:00 PM >

	Whoa, deja vu from the other respirator thread... Are N95s what you're using? Because those are only 95% efficient (only filters 95% of the particulate out) -- you'd much rather have 100-class because those are supposed to be 99.97% efficient. [last edit 12/16/2004 9:00 PM by Servo - edited 1 times]

'Dukes Noble Donor Gender: Male At least someone llikes me \| \|	Re: If the respirator fits... <Reply # 10 on 12/18/2004 12:42 AM >

	I thought I just bought a bunch (yes a bunch ) of cheap respirators from Ebay. I should have thought about the fact that everyones face is different. PAW: I think you were onto something with that metal clip being attached to the nosepeice; It seems like a good concept as the main prob I've had was with feeling my breath exhausting past the nose. Now obviously it's not a spacesuit, or something to protect from mustard gas, in fact it's more annoying than anything. My winter beard is a worse hinderance than any "nose leaks"; but you would think some company would make a "face adjustable " mask. Or is that the reason that they make full face masks; for stuff that equals "instant death"? Is there an adjustable half face mask? I got your tour winner right here pussies, at least he'd crash out trying.

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Re: If the respirator fits...
<Reply # 11 on 12/18/2004 1:44 AM >

Posted by 'Dukes
Or is that the reason that they make full face masks; for stuff that equals "instant death"?
Is there an adjustable half face mask?

I don't think anyone wants to make an adjustable mask simply because of the liability involved. It's much safer for a manufacturer to say that you can't have any facial hair than to develop a mask to work around it. It's a shame though, there are so many people who don't want to wear a respirator but really should because of their job. A lot of people would really be happy if someone made one that was more adjustable. I'm not sure about full face masks but I think they require you to have no facial hair as well since the mouth area still seals the same way onto your face as the half face ones.

I won this.
http://cgi.ebay.co...=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Just the two filters alone which are organic vapor/acid gas/p100 are $18 a pair and the mask seems to run about $20. So I'd say I made out pretty well for under $17 after shipping. Hopefully this one fits, I've got a good feeling about it.

I was reading about these filters and apparently they'll protect you from Hydrogen Sulfide (escape only) it says. Respirators might be useful for draining after all.

-pawolf

Make Beer, Not War.

'Dukes Noble Donor Gender: Male At least someone llikes me \| \|	Re: If the respirator fits... <Reply # 12 on 12/18/2004 1:51 AM >

	None of them are perfect; But as it is the only choice you have is size. I'm just surprised that no manufacturer hasn't built in bendable parts to allow more of a "custom fit". I don't think liability would be a problem , after all the mask is not making promises to begin with. The reason I mention full face is because those would technically involve more hostile environments, and because of the nature of the mask, the fit should be a non issue. Of course I would never expect a manufacturer to condone facial hair; that's my own fault. I'm a bearded fucker all winter long. I got your tour winner right here pussies, at least he'd crash out trying.

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Re: If the respirator fits...
<Reply # 13 on 12/19/2004 1:36 AM >

Posted by Servo
Are N95s what you're using? Because those are only 95% efficient (only filters 95% of the particulate out) -- you'd much rather have 100-class because those are supposed to be 99.97% efficient.

that's just an image I found on the neti personally wouldn't use anything but a 100

Contrary to popular belief, death isn't just for dead people. I know I was surprised too! It can happen to anybody! Horses, fiddler crabs, even a potato can die! - Tick

PAWolf Not from Pennsylvania location: KCMO Gender: Male We haven't located us yet. \| \| \| \|	Re: If the respirator fits... <Reply # 14 on 12/22/2004 12:55 AM >

	I received my 7500 series today it totally fvcken rocks. It is the most comfortable and well fitting respirator I've ever worn. The vinyl though is so soft I would highly recommend this respirator to anyone even if you don't have trouble acheiving a good fit with others. It's just really comfortable. Only complaint would be that the exhalation valve points down so you have to talk loud for anyone to hear you. -pawolf Make Beer, Not War.

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