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Good Ethics Foundation Concepts
< on 3/6/2012 8:37 AM >
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....

So, we've been having a little overhaul in the MSP community for the last few weeks/months, and there's been lots of ideas being thrown around, etc... and one of the things I wanted to do was a MSP newbie's ethics document that was aimed at noobs. Because we're under such different situations as most explorers out there, a lot of what we do doesn't match up with the popular UE attitudes elsewhere in the world, and that's why our actions and online personas can seem so strange to some of you.

It's sorta longheld custom in MSP that once we see new guys consistently exploring on their own and not being idiots, we take them under our wing and try and teach them some ethics that help sustain our community. Doesn't mean we have to be best friends with them, but that usually ends up happening anyway. Most of these are things contained within a seasoned explorer would already know from experience, but because we have such a high percentage of new guys constantly coming in and we hate seeing the same noob mistakes being made over and over, I finally decided I wanted to put all the 'basics' we have into an easily consumable form, rather than word of mouth teaching like we've always had. The document is pretty much finished, might have one re-write to clean it up / fix minor details. I've already received great feedback from some of the younger guys around here, so I figured other new guys elsewhere could benefit from it as well.

Again, this is written for Minneapolis exploring with a local community of 100-300 explorers (depending on how you define us), and written from the viewpoint of cave exploring rather than buildings. Enjoy.

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Re: Good Ethics Foundation Concepts
<Reply # 1 on 3/6/2012 8:42 AM >
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Thanks again for writing this. Applicable far beyond MSP-- I think every exploring group, no matter how small, can learn lessons from what's happened/is happening.

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Re: Good Ethics Foundation Concepts
<Reply # 2 on 3/6/2012 10:56 AM >
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Lots of good info here, especially "Personal Trust is not the same as Explorer Trust."

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Re: Good Ethics Foundation Concepts
<Reply # 3 on 3/6/2012 12:17 PM >
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I really hope I make it to MSP in the next few years, you guys are cool as fuck.

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Re: Good Ethics Foundation Concepts
<Reply # 4 on 3/6/2012 5:55 PM >
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Read and agreed. Good work!

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Re: Good Ethics Foundation Concepts
<Reply # 5 on 3/6/2012 9:32 PM >
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Posted by bsmith7
Lots of good info here, especially "Personal Trust is not the same as Explorer Trust."


QFT, i've had some very good friends which I don't explore with anymore after seeing the disrespect they've shown to certain locations

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Re: Good Ethics Foundation Concepts
<Reply # 6 on 3/6/2012 10:47 PM >
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Thanks for posting this Mario.

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Re: Good Ethics Foundation Concepts
<Reply # 7 on 3/7/2012 4:06 AM >
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As one of the newer explorers to the MSP scene I thank you for this. I learned a ton from what you wrote and it's nice to understand the workings of relationships among local explorers and on. Thanks!

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Re: Good Ethics Foundation Concepts
<Reply # 8 on 3/7/2012 5:17 AM >
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Posted by Lackluster Lake Lurker
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Re: Good Ethics Foundation Concepts
<Reply # 9 on 3/7/2012 3:50 PM >
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Nice write up shotgun. Thank you!

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Re: Good Ethics Foundation Concepts
<Reply # 10 on 3/7/2012 10:49 PM >
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Great stuff! I really like this! Very well written.

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Re: Good Ethics Foundation Concepts
<Reply # 11 on 3/15/2012 7:02 AM >
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Lots of good info

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Re: Good Ethics Foundation Concepts
<Reply # 12 on 3/15/2012 5:40 PM >
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Great job

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Re: Good Ethics Foundation Concepts
<Reply # 13 on 3/15/2012 7:59 PM >
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This is great. I hope that a condensed version becomes part of the rookie forum and rules. I have posted a link to it on our private board for our group. THank you for sharing.

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Re: Good Ethics Foundation Concepts
<Reply # 14 on 3/16/2012 2:42 AM >
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super awesomely well done. so many essential good important points presented here!
i can honestly say there are only exact similarities & parallels to the code & feelings we ourselves follow for exploration & emphasize in our area. well done. thank you for sharing.


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Re: Good Ethics Foundation Concepts
<Reply # 15 on 3/16/2012 4:52 AM >
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I read it, very well put.

A "must" read for new UE people or those thinking about getting into it.

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<Reply # 16 on 8/17/2012 2:52 AM >
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Just wanted to refresh this thread.


[last edit 8/17/2012 2:53 AM by Alice - edited 1 times]

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Re: Good Ethics Foundation Concepts
<Reply # 17 on 8/17/2012 4:17 AM >
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Posted by Alice
Just wanted to refresh this thread.

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Re: Good Ethics Foundation Concepts
<Reply # 18 on 8/17/2012 11:04 AM >
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That would be a Freak webcomic.

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