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 Explorer Zero
     
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<Reply # 40 on 1/31/2012 10:42 PM >
|  | | | Well the EPA seems to think its valid enough to include with references but we'll defer to local expert Therrin's knowledge on this.
http://www.epa.gov...e/trianadoc21a.pdf
Far more likely to find some recent toxic dumping on the north and east side where its been in private hands for decades than in the part still owned by the Houston Channel Inc or left over from WWII.
[last edit 1/31/2012 10:45 PM by Explorer Zero - edited 1 times]
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Therrin
   
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Location: North of Chicago, IL
Gender: Male
*Therrin puts on the penguin-suit
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<Reply # 41 on 1/31/2012 11:50 PM >
| | | | I don't see how you take what I say doesn't make sense to me, asking for valid sourcing and wanting more supporting documentation as me a "local expert"?
Pardon me for the error of not fully believing EVERY UNTRACEABLE "NEWS" ARTICLE that's presented to me on the internet.
Also, the link you sent is a 9.4MB file titled "Chemical Weapons Movement". I'm not arguing that they get moved. So unless you're quoting a specific part or line from that document, you're not actually arguing anything, you're just linking to a book; which is nice but doesn't really say anything.
My original point was: If you think the ground you're walking on is filled with chemical weapons disposal and you're fine with that, great.
But if you don't know for a fact where anything was buried, or if anything was buried at a specific site, running around claiming it doesn't leave you any legitimacy or proof.
Give a person a match and they'll be warm for a minute, but light them on fire and they'll be warm for the rest of their life. =) |
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MrSivalls
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I'll be a-surfin' in yer blood on Saturday night
| | Re: The D.H.A.R.M.A Initiative
<Reply # 42 on 2/1/2012 1:27 AM >
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^^ You realize this is mainly a problem if you're out near those bunkers with a bunch of people with shovels, or a backhoe or excavator, right?
**EDIT**
And this is only supposing that they actually buried munitions in the ground around the bunkers, then didn't mark that there was UXO underground, and it somehow got left really shallow.
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Over time freezing cycles and rain can unearth ordinance. Who says it was buried proper? Stuff gets dropped or otherwise misappropriated. This has happens on stateside WW1-2 ARMY bases.
Anything goes, keep an open mind, and step softly.
Your security measures were inadequate.
How unfortunate for you. |
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cdevon
 
Location: west county
Gender: Male
| | | Re: The D.H.A.R.M.A Initiative
<Reply # 43 on 2/1/2012 2:29 AM >
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on the left we have a HUGE CONCRETE DOME that encases what was the factory that made "bad war things". on the right is a highschool, and it was there long before the dome was built.
yeah, trust the feds to clean up the mess they made or didnt make..
When I say I'm 'clean and sober', it means I've showered and I'm headed to the liquor store. |
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MrSivalls
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I'll be a-surfin' in yer blood on Saturday night
| | Re: The D.H.A.R.M.A Initiative
<Reply # 44 on 2/1/2012 2:35 PM >
| | | | lol. The containment dome, nothing will escape, and there's nothing that escaped their watchful eyes.
Like to hear more lies?
Your security measures were inadequate.
How unfortunate for you. |
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Explorer Zero
| | | Re: The D.H.A.R.M.A Initiative
<Reply # 45 on 2/1/2012 5:51 PM >
| | | | Posted by MrSivalls
lol. The containment dome, nothing will escape, and there's nothing that escaped their watchful eyes.
Like to hear more lies?
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we're from the government and we're here to help
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MrSivalls
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I'll be a-surfin' in yer blood on Saturday night
| | Re: The D.H.A.R.M.A Initiative
<Reply # 46 on 2/2/2012 1:04 AM >
| | | | Posted by 2Xplorations
we're from the government and we're here to help
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from birth to the grave, and in all so many ways
Your security measures were inadequate.
How unfortunate for you. |
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yeya
Location: La La Land, TX
Gender: Female
| | Re: The D.H.A.R.M.A Initiative
<Reply # 47 on 2/2/2012 2:50 AM >
| | | | Alright guys, sorry it took me FOREVER to finally post these. Astro will be happy, lol Sorry if the pics are too big, wasn't sure how small to make them, lol Anyway, Enjoy!
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This was some of the black stuff that was on the floor. Still wondering wth it is.
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This bunker REEKED!!!!! Astro and I agreed that it smelled like death or something. Masks were a MUST!!!
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21. I really wonder what happened with the mattress in this pic. Makes me wonder if someone got lit on fire on there or something. Creepy to me.
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Here's a link to my flickr account. There are other pics that aren't on here. There won't be much because I just started it, but hey, it's something. There's also a video.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/yeya_21/
[last edit 2/2/2012 2:53 AM by yeya - edited 1 times]
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Explorer Zero
| | | Re: The D.H.A.R.M.A Initiative
<Reply # 48 on 2/2/2012 4:17 AM >
| | | | #5 = ghetto hog trap
#7 black spotting on floor almost looks like mold but might just be water spots and soot
drums! wow where did you come across those drums by the river or up in the industrial park?
(the distinction between hazardous and non hazardous waste is a fine one I mean decon water come on, if its "non hazardous" in the laymens sense of the word why put it in drums seal it up then hide it in someone elses igloo)
nice pics
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Astro
  
Usually naked
Location: The Delta Quadrant
Gender: Male
Resistance is Futile
| | Re: The D.H.A.R.M.A Initiative
<Reply # 49 on 2/2/2012 4:59 AM >
| | | | Posted by 2Xplorations
drums! wow where did you come across those drums by the river or up in the industrial park?
(the distinction between hazardous and non hazardous waste is a fine one I mean decon water come on, if its "non hazardous" in the laymens sense of the word why put it in drums seal it up then hide it in someone elses igloo)
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The term "someone else's igloo" just had me laughing...
The barrels are on the river side of the main road but they are on the North side of everything, a few aisles in.
[02:33:56] <Valkyre> Astro your whole life is ruled by the sentence ' life is better without clothes on'
[22:16:00] <DSomms> it was normal until astro got here
Astro: Patron Saint of Drains |
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yeya
Location: La La Land, TX
Gender: Female
| | Re: The D.H.A.R.M.A Initiative
<Reply # 50 on 2/2/2012 5:16 AM >
| | | | Posted by 2Xplorations
#5 = ghetto hog trap
#7 black spotting on floor almost looks like mold but might just be water spots and soot
drums! wow where did you come across those drums by the river or up in the industrial park?
(the distinction between hazardous and non hazardous waste is a fine one I mean decon water come on, if its "non hazardous" in the laymens sense of the word why put it in drums seal it up then hide it in someone elses igloo)
nice pics
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Why thank ya. We thought it was soot at first too but then when we saw the igloo with the drums, that had us thinking otherwise. The floor was thick with it. And for it to go through our jeans and shoes is weird and kinda creepy to me.
But there was condensation on the ceilings so I'm sure that's why the other floors look spotty.
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Astro
Usually naked
Location: The Delta Quadrant
Gender: Male
Resistance is Futile
| | Re: The D.H.A.R.M.A Initiative
<Reply # 51 on 2/2/2012 5:25 AM >
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This is the black shit all over my legs. I was wearing jeans and boots. It didn't penetrate the boots but went right through the jeans.
[02:33:56] <Valkyre> Astro your whole life is ruled by the sentence ' life is better without clothes on'
[22:16:00] <DSomms> it was normal until astro got here
Astro: Patron Saint of Drains |
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MrSivalls
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I'll be a-surfin' in yer blood on Saturday night
| | Re: The D.H.A.R.M.A Initiative
<Reply # 52 on 2/2/2012 7:45 PM >
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You're a dirty, dirty girl. Wear higher boots next time?
Your security measures were inadequate.
How unfortunate for you. |
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dwtaylor999
Location: Unassigned Lands, Oklahoma
Gender: Male
| | Re: The D.H.A.R.M.A Initiative
<Reply # 53 on 2/2/2012 9:48 PM >
| | | | | Why thank ya. We thought it was soot at first too but then when we saw the igloo with the drums, that had us thinking otherwise. The floor was thick with it. And for it to go through our jeans and shoes is weird and kinda creepy to me. |
Interesting. Sounds like Carbon Black. A byproduct created during the oil refining process. It's primary use was in the production of tires and plastics, but was also a component in radar absorbing materials for classified military projects. I knew some people who worked with it at a not to be named refinery in North Central Oklahoma. Their descriptions of the stuff matchs closely with yours. They claimed it would penetrate almost anything, including most masks. Was it somewhat difficult to wash off?. You're probably doomed. Forget I said anything. It's probably ash or mold.
[last edit 2/2/2012 9:48 PM by dwtaylor999 - edited 1 times]
Ruins, the fate of all cities. |
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Astro
Usually naked
Location: The Delta Quadrant
Gender: Male
Resistance is Futile
| | Re: The D.H.A.R.M.A Initiative
<Reply # 54 on 2/2/2012 10:18 PM >
| | | | Posted by dwtaylor999
Interesting. Sounds like Carbon Black. A byproduct created during the oil refining process. It's primary use was in the production of tires and plastics, but was also a component in radar absorbing materials for classified military projects. I knew some people who worked with it at a not to be named refinery in North Central Oklahoma. Their descriptions of the stuff matchs closely with yours. They claimed it would penetrate almost anything, including most masks. Was it somewhat difficult to wash off?. You're probably doomed. Forget I said anything. It's probably ash or mold.
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Actually carbon black was my main conclusion and most probable. I work in construction and live in an area heavily populated by refineries. So my manager suggested it. I am not 100% sure that's what it is but so far its been the most likely suspect. For me it was hard to wash off. I had to break out the loofahs and scrub a couple layers of skin off with it.
It was definitely not ash or mold though. ^_^
[02:33:56] <Valkyre> Astro your whole life is ruled by the sentence ' life is better without clothes on'
[22:16:00] <DSomms> it was normal until astro got here
Astro: Patron Saint of Drains |
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MrSivalls
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I'll be a-surfin' in yer blood on Saturday night
| | Re: The D.H.A.R.M.A Initiative
<Reply # 55 on 2/2/2012 11:52 PM >
| | | | Posted by Astro
Actually carbon black was my main conclusion and most probable. I work in construction and live in an area heavily populated by refineries. So my manager suggested it. I am not 100% sure that's what it is but so far its been the most likely suspect. For me it was hard to wash off. I had to break out the loofahs and scrub a couple layers of skin off with it.
It was definitely not ash or mold though. ^_^
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That implies it penetrated the skin. Carbon wouldn't do that. Sounds like some sort of coal tar based substance, or Houston Black mold. lol.
Your security measures were inadequate.
How unfortunate for you. |
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Explorer Zero
| | | Re: The D.H.A.R.M.A Initiative
<Reply # 56 on 2/3/2012 1:07 AM >
| | | | carbon black is/was used to make tires too
The General Tire plant in Waco is permeated with the stuff ask anyone thats been there it clings to everything
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Astro
Usually naked
Location: The Delta Quadrant
Gender: Male
Resistance is Futile
| | Re: The D.H.A.R.M.A Initiative
<Reply # 57 on 2/3/2012 1:11 AM >
| | | | Posted by 2Xplorations
carbon black is/was used to make tires too
The General Tire plant in Waco is permeated with the stuff ask anyone thats been there it clings to everything
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The thing is...the outside of my pants did not look dirty. My legs were black and my jeans were just dirty from em climbing on shit.
[02:33:56] <Valkyre> Astro your whole life is ruled by the sentence ' life is better without clothes on'
[22:16:00] <DSomms> it was normal until astro got here
Astro: Patron Saint of Drains |
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Explorer Zero
| | | Re: The D.H.A.R.M.A Initiative
<Reply # 58 on 2/3/2012 4:37 AM >
| | | | it found you attractive no doubt..
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sticksandstones
Location: Seattle, WA
Gender: Female
| | Re: The D.H.A.R.M.A Initiative
<Reply # 59 on 2/3/2012 4:49 AM >
| | | | cool sets - both of you.......the subject header says it all - - definitely DHARMA-esque. Nice job on the creep factor....and hopefully the black stuff didn't do any damage to your skin or internal organs.
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