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 barefootpoetry
Location: PA
Gender: Female
 |  |  | Hopping Fences, Riding Bikes
< on 5/10/2011 5:05 AM >
|  | | | Found a new location today. It's remote, as in no other buildings in eyeshot, although the road is traveled frequently as a shortcut. But it's got new cattle fencing with barbed wire on top as far as the eye can see, with a home on the open end and the other disappearing into the woods, so no chance of walking around it. I'm not too worried about the actual scaling of the fence. I'm mildly concerned about how much more trouble I could get into in the extremely rare chance I get stopped by authorities. There's a big difference, to me, between walking in through an open door or gate and climbing over a barbed wire fence. Would it still be considered just trespassing, or something more?
I'm also going to have to ride my bike to this location as there is nowhere I can park near it. I'm not sure if the foliage is thick enough for me to hide it sufficiently in a ditch. But I don't want to wait for it to get any thicker because the house is already halfway obscured with greenery. How do you make a riderless bike look casual on the side of a remote country road? Since there is nothing else around, anything other than total camouflage would stick out like a sore thumb.
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RescueMe1060
     
Location: San Francisco
Gender: Male
Radioactivity, its in the air for you & me
| | Re: Hopping Fences, Riding Bikes
<Reply # 1 on 5/10/2011 6:53 AM >
| | | | If its not too far of a walk I would leave the bike @ home seeing as you don't think you'll be able to adequately hide it.
...on the other hand it sounds like you are over-thinking and psyching yourself out.
Going in a group?
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Phelonius
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Hopping Fences, Riding Bikes
<Reply # 2 on 5/10/2011 10:11 AM >
| | | | Pretty sure it just considered trespassing unless you cut through the fence to get it i think then it would be considered breaking and entering. Im not sure though.
And with the bike, could you hide it around the back of the property? No one would see it there, unless they were specifically looking for it.
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barefootpoetry
Location: PA
Gender: Female
| | | Re: Hopping Fences, Riding Bikes
<Reply # 3 on 5/10/2011 2:40 PM >
| | | | It'd be a long walk. If the weather is not too hot on the day I go, it might not be too bad, though.
I can't stash my bike around the back of the building because I'm not strong enough to lift it over a five foot fence.
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xtacyturbo
Location: Pittsburgh
Gender: Male
| |  | | Re: Hopping Fences, Riding Bikes
<Reply # 4 on 5/10/2011 2:57 PM >
| | | | Climbing a fence is the same offense as disobeying a No Trespassing sign. They made it clear that you weren't supposed to be there, you went in anyway, same crime.
Cutting or damaging the fence, though, can be considered breaking and entering in some places.
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Lasso
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Hopping Fences, Riding Bikes
<Reply # 5 on 5/10/2011 3:06 PM >
| | | | I think my plan of attack would be to toss my bike over the fence and bring it into the location with me.... maybe bring a blanket/mat with you in a backpack to throw over the fence if you are worried about the barbs messing up your bike.
If it is as remote as you make it sound like, I doubt you would have much to worry about. Or maybe going around the fence on the woods side and using the cover of the woods to get around the fence is the best idea.... hard to say without seeing it.
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barefootpoetry
Location: PA
Gender: Female
| | | Re: Hopping Fences, Riding Bikes
<Reply # 6 on 5/10/2011 4:20 PM >
| | | | yeah, I don't plan on cutting the fence. A friend suggested I use wire cutters and make myself a little doorway. If I got caught with wire cutters my offense goes from a misdemeanor to a felony...no thanks.
I might try to stake out the place some more and see if I can find where the fence ends. On that side of the house it is really dense woods, I don't know if I could even work my way through it without making a ton of noise. Definitely not with a bike in tow.
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Lasso
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Hopping Fences, Riding Bikes
<Reply # 7 on 5/10/2011 4:42 PM >
| | | | If there's no other buildings in eyeshot, the noise you would make moving through the woods would definitely be a non-issue.
I know this might be a lame suggestion... but it might not even be a bad idea to knock on the door of that house and just ask for permission... unless it's obvious it's a crazy asshole redneck in which case maybe you should avoid it all together lol...
I've been shot at by a farmer when I was just walking across his field because he thought I was stealing cherries from his trees... country folk can either be the biggest assholes ever or cool with it
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hairpiece
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Hopping Fences, Riding Bikes
<Reply # 8 on 5/10/2011 5:21 PM >
| | | | If your worried about getting cut by barbs i use a leather and Kevlar apron makes it real easy to get over and back ;) and if your bike is black it helps or a green color i bet we have the same type of bike i use a beach cuzer just hide it and lock it and make your way to the houses and a week ago i was stopped and all i said was I WANT PICTURES!! he said if Im around too much ill have a ticket on my hands.. do not be worried
[last edit 5/10/2011 5:26 PM by hairpiece - edited 1 times]
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barefootpoetry
Location: PA
Gender: Female
| | | Re: Hopping Fences, Riding Bikes
<Reply # 9 on 5/10/2011 5:44 PM >
| | | | My bike is bright blue.  I fail at incognito!
Posted by Lasso
I know this might be a lame suggestion... but it might not even be a bad idea to knock on the door of that house and just ask for permission... unless it's obvious it's a crazy asshole redneck in which case maybe you should avoid it all together lol...
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It's not entirely lame. It is an option. I guess I take a gamble either way. Ask, get told no, and never get photos at all because they start watching the place knowing that someone is interested in it. Don't ask, get caught, get in trouble (maybe). Or either one could turn out positive (get permission, or don't get caught). I love the unpredictability. And so far I'm batting 0 for 2 in the asking permission department.
I'll just have to keep brainstorming this one. I've never had a fence to contend with, or had to park elsewhere. I always just park in front and walk in the door like a boss. Never had to do anything more complex. I'm spoiled.
[last edit 5/10/2011 5:52 PM by barefootpoetry - edited 1 times]
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hairpiece
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Hopping Fences, Riding Bikes
<Reply # 10 on 5/10/2011 5:51 PM >
| | | | Posted by barefootpoetry
My bike is bright blue. I fail at incognito!
I'll just have to keep brainstorming this one. I've never had a fence to contend with, or had to park elsewhere. I always just park in front and walk in the door like a boss. Never had to do anything more complex. I'm spoiled.
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i honestly do not give a fuck what cops say lol my brother is one and they are all pussy's lol like yesterday i went in 3 bars all abandon of course and got some good pics with cops all arround. just have the idgaf walk and you will be fine trust me .
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Vectored Approach
Location: Morgan Hill, CA
Gender: Male
| | Re: Hopping Fences, Riding Bikes
<Reply # 11 on 5/10/2011 6:41 PM >
| | | | Posted by hairpiece
...like yesterday i went in 3 bars all abandon of course and got some good pics with cops all arround.
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Pics or it didn't happen.
Honesty may be the best policy, but it's important to remember that apparently, by elimination, dishonesty is the second-best policy. -George Carlin (1937 - 2008) |
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hairpiece
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Hopping Fences, Riding Bikes
<Reply # 12 on 5/10/2011 6:47 PM >
| | | | Posted by Vectored Approach
Pics or it didn't happen.
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they will be up soon i want to get back in first after tomorrow you will see
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RescueMe1060
Location: San Francisco
Gender: Male
Radioactivity, its in the air for you & me
| | Re: Hopping Fences, Riding Bikes
<Reply # 13 on 5/10/2011 8:40 PM >
| | | | Posted by hairpiece
i honestly do not give a fuck what cops say lol my brother is one and they are all pussy's lol like yesterday i went in 3 bars all abandon of course and got some good pics with cops all arround. just have the idgaf walk and you will be fine trust me .
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IMO this type of attitude will cause more trouble, more problems, and lead to either an arrest or citation.
@barefoot, I would knock on the door and ask for permission, tell the owner you are doing a photography project for school and would love to see the property b/c it caught your eye. I wouldn't go alone up to the door though, bring a friend.
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NiiCKx3
Location: W.V.
| | Re: Hopping Fences, Riding Bikes
<Reply # 14 on 5/10/2011 8:44 PM >
| | | | Tunnel under the fence, leave your bike in some bushes.
Less breaking, more entering -- *tells cop we're taking pictures* "OF WUUUUT?!" |
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hairpiece
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Hopping Fences, Riding Bikes
<Reply # 15 on 5/10/2011 9:06 PM >
| | | | i said idgaf walk not attitude  trust me im polite
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butrphly
Location: Connecticut
Gender: Female
| | | Re: Hopping Fences, Riding Bikes
<Reply # 16 on 5/11/2011 12:08 AM >
| | | | Posted by NiiCKx3
Tunnel under the fence, leave your bike in some bushes.
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this.. going under fences works quite well, that is if they aren't barred down =)
We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time.
T. S. Eliot
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barefootpoetry
Location: PA
Gender: Female
| | | Re: Hopping Fences, Riding Bikes
<Reply # 17 on 5/11/2011 12:23 AM >
| | | | I'm going for casual here...riding a bike with a shovel over my shoulder ain't exactly casual. ;)
Theoretically, asking the people in the house nearby might work...however the building looks fairly dilapidated and I doubt they'd let me go inside out of fear that I'd get hurt and sue their asses off. If I can't go inside after asking permission I might as well not do it at all.
She who hesitates, sees bulldozers. |
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NiiCKx3
Location: W.V.
| | Re: Hopping Fences, Riding Bikes
<Reply # 18 on 5/11/2011 12:37 AM >
| | | | So here's the plan:
- Bring a back pack with all of your normal UE stuff in it, but most importantly buy a small folding camp shovel for like $12.83 from Walmart.
- Wear clothes you're not afraid to get dirty in (probably your UE clothes anyways).
- Ride your bike to a nearby location that is safe, stash the bike somewhere in the bushes or locked against a tree, sign post, etc.
- Walk up to the location, casually look around like you've never been there.
- Find the place in the fence that is least visible, preferably near a tree or bush.
- Dig a hole large enough to crawl through.
- Crawl through the hole.
- Profit.
Less breaking, more entering -- *tells cop we're taking pictures* "OF WUUUUT?!" |
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barefootpoetry
Location: PA
Gender: Female
| | | Re: Hopping Fences, Riding Bikes
<Reply # 19 on 5/11/2011 12:39 AM >
| | | | Okay, after doing some more thorough Google Mapping, I think the house nearby is not actually on the same property. The fence goes all the way around a huge patch of woods, and it isn't actually open on their side from what I can tell. There is a lane going up one side of the woods with a few houses but I can't get street view so I can't tell where the fence ends. However, it seems there is some kind of pathway going from the far corner of the woods, over, down, over again, and down again in behind the house. So if I can find the end of the fence, I could possibly find my way through the woods to the house without much hassle.
It's funny how this stupid fence is psyching me out. I've never been worried about being seen at an abandonment before, ever. Many of the ones I've visited are right on busy highways and I never felt the slightest bit nervous. However, they were all wide open. If I get spotted inside a fenced area it's going to be fairly obvious I shouldn't be there.
EDIT: I'm not digging a hole. I can climb over the fence easily. I just would rather not have to do anything with the fence at all if I can, for trespassing purposes.
EDITx2: My point is, if I can access the house without ever having to deal with the fence, i.e. finding where it ends and just going around it, I can play it off much easier than if I just climb over it. "Oh, I was taking a walk and I saw a rare yellow-headed blue-bellied warbler, and wanted to take its photo, but it flew off into the woods and I followed it, and next thing I knew I had discovered this cool-looking building and thought I'd take a look at it. Fence? What fence? Why no, I'd never climb over a barbed wire fence, that's dangerous, officer."
[last edit 5/11/2011 12:49 AM by barefootpoetry - edited 4 times]
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